Program for video editing questions

ilovefishsticks · 07-26-2005, 03:21 AM

Hey guys I was wondering what program i can use to edit video in a way to add a background or somthing. I want 2 things from the program (or multiple if one cant do it alone, i dont realy care

).
For Example i want to be able to do somthing like take a picture of sombody and make it so their arms are holding a machine gun then take a seperate picture of a machine gun and put it in the person's hands, all without ruining the background, like im shur u can cut out their arm, but the part under it will look white once you get rid of it from that spot. alot like danlatimer has his avitar on this site.
Another thing i want to be able to do is add a background to a movie (if movie not possible then pic). For example have two charecters standing in pure whiteness while walking in talking, or walking on a picture of space instead of the whiteness, you get my drift...

Please Help Me!! I realy want to know a program(s) that does this!!

Hope you can help

b182tm · 07-26-2005, 04:08 AM

As far as the video, you can get Pinnacle Studio (The latest version). They have a chroma key, which is like a green screen. YOu film on the screen, then add the video in tha background. Pinnacle isn't the best video program, but you can do green screen with it. Also, you can do it with Adobe Premiere Pro (Or After Affects, not sure) But those are very expensive, and they are pretty hard to use (If you are new to video editing) Hope this helps a little.
Derek

By the way, this should be in general software, not desktop computers.

**The_Other_One** · 07-26-2005, 04:15 AM

Pretty hard to use is an understatement! Man they are difficult! But yeah, Premiere Pro or After Effects would both do what you want to, but it is not nearly as easy as you think it is...

Just adding a backgound wouldn't be hard, just Chromakey as mentioned above(you just need really good lighting and all) but to look like someone's holding something, that would be next to impossible.

Glitch · 07-26-2005, 04:19 AM

Adobe Premiere and Adobe Photoshop can do basically anything you can dream of if you have alot of creativity, time to learn the features, and a large wallet. I'm pretty sure with the Creative Suite 2 theres even a tool called "GOD" where you can actually alter reality to your liking.

Or you can be really crude and use MS Paint and Windows Movie Maker. You'll have to save your cutouts in MS Paint as gif's to aquire the transparency for overlays.

ilovefishsticks · 07-26-2005, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by b182tm

As far as the video, you can get Pinnacle Studio (The latest version). They have a chroma key, which is like a green screen. YOu film on the screen, then add the video in tha background. Pinnacle isn't the best video program, but you can do green screen with it. Also, you can do it with Adobe Premiere Pro (Or After Affects, not sure) But those are very expensive, and they are pretty hard to use (If you are new to video editing) Hope this helps a little.
Derek

By the way, this should be in general software, not desktop computers.

I have pinnacle studio version 9, isnt that the newest? Im fairly experienced at video editing but that is using pinnacle to cut and split clips and such. I didnt know pinnacle could do this, if you can do this on version 9, then what would i click on to do it? thanks

b182tm · 07-26-2005, 04:25 AM

Yeah...I got Adobe After Affects and Premiere Pro, and unless you have some serious experience under your belt, you will have a very hard time with them. Same goes for Photoshop CS...I have yet to figure out any of these programs.
Derek

BTW, I am sure that there are some people here who have no prob. with Adobe, who disagree with me...It's just my personal opinion.

b182tm · 07-26-2005, 04:28 AM

Well there was an upgrade for version 9. You have to pay some amount, and then get a green screen...I'm not too sure...Check out Pinnacle's website.
Pinnacle

Derek

ilovefishsticks · 07-26-2005, 05:00 AM

thanks for all the help but i still dont understand it all. do i absolutly have to have a green screen or can i somhow edit it with an easier program to use than adobe premiere? and what about like how danlatimer has his avitar a moving mouth. how would you cut a certain area and move it down and make it seem like a mouth moving (in a funny way), and how did he get it moving on his avitar??

b182tm · 07-26-2005, 05:21 AM

Well, that new Pinnacle upgrade can do backgrounds like you want. You can buy the green screen from Pinnacle. It's a cheap one on their site somewhere. I dont have it, so i dont know what the quality would be. Did you send danlatimer a PM? He might know. But then again, he could have just found it online somewhere...I hope this helps, but I'm not sure what you asked.

Derek

DanLatimer · 07-26-2005, 01:12 PM

hey, I'm responding to you PM here. I used adobe image ready. its the best program to make GIF files in my opinion, all the coolness of photoshop and you can make little animated files

. Its a frame by frame kinda situation, you just draw each frame and tell it how long you want each frame to stay up for. Oh and it comes with photoshop umm i've had 7.0 and CS1 and it came with both of those. I hope that that helps you.
and as for your origonal post, im not really into video editing so i really cant help you with that but if you have any questions on animated GIFs ill do my best to answer them

07-26-2005, 03:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
ilovefishsticks Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago, IL USA Age: 18 Posts: 396	Program for video editing questions Hey guys I was wondering what program i can use to edit video in a way to add a background or somthing. I want 2 things from the program (or multiple if one cant do it alone, i dont realy care ). For Example i want to be able to do somthing like take a picture of sombody and make it so their arms are holding a machine gun then take a seperate picture of a machine gun and put it in the person's hands, all without ruining the background, like im shur u can cut out their arm, but the part under it will look white once you get rid of it from that spot. alot like danlatimer has his avitar on this site. Another thing i want to be able to do is add a background to a movie (if movie not possible then pic). For example have two charecters standing in pure whiteness while walking in talking, or walking on a picture of space instead of the whiteness, you get my drift... Please Help Me!! I realy want to know a program(s) that does this!! Hope you can help __________________ My Computer Specs NVidia GeForce 6600 256mb Intel D195PCY motherboard Intel Pentium 4 3.2 Ghtz HT 300 GB Seagate SATA HDD 2048mb 533mhtz ddr2 corsair (1x1024)(2x512) Aspire X-Dreamer II case Ultra X-Connect PSU BenQ Dvd-R and DVD-RW 5.1 logitech x530 speaker system 19 inch Fuji Plus LCD monitor

07-26-2005, 04:08 AM	#2 (permalink)
b182tm Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bronco Country Age: 19 Posts: 1,044	As far as the video, you can get Pinnacle Studio (The latest version). They have a chroma key, which is like a green screen. YOu film on the screen, then add the video in tha background. Pinnacle isn't the best video program, but you can do green screen with it. Also, you can do it with Adobe Premiere Pro (Or After Affects, not sure) But those are very expensive, and they are pretty hard to use (If you are new to video editing) Hope this helps a little. Derek By the way, this should be in general software, not desktop computers. __________________ mobo ASUS A8N5X cpu AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ memory 1GB GeIL RAM video card 6600 GT 128MB hard drive Samsung 120GB SATA HDD R.I.P. Darrent Williams

07-26-2005, 04:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,307	Pretty hard to use is an understatement! Man they are difficult! But yeah, Premiere Pro or After Effects would both do what you want to, but it is not nearly as easy as you think it is... Just adding a backgound wouldn't be hard, just Chromakey as mentioned above(you just need really good lighting and all) but to look like someone's holding something, that would be next to impossible. __________________ Urban De-Development * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT * C2D T5250 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100 * G4 1.33GHz \| 512M RAM \| 40G HD \| Radeon 9200

07-26-2005, 04:25 AM	#6 (permalink)
b182tm Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bronco Country Age: 19 Posts: 1,044	Yeah...I got Adobe After Affects and Premiere Pro, and unless you have some serious experience under your belt, you will have a very hard time with them. Same goes for Photoshop CS...I have yet to figure out any of these programs. Derek BTW, I am sure that there are some people here who have no prob. with Adobe, who disagree with me...It's just my personal opinion. __________________ mobo ASUS A8N5X cpu AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ memory 1GB GeIL RAM video card 6600 GT 128MB hard drive Samsung 120GB SATA HDD R.I.P. Darrent Williams

07-26-2005, 04:28 AM	#7 (permalink)
b182tm Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bronco Country Age: 19 Posts: 1,044	Well there was an upgrade for version 9. You have to pay some amount, and then get a green screen...I'm not too sure...Check out Pinnacle's website. Pinnacle Derek __________________ mobo ASUS A8N5X cpu AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ memory 1GB GeIL RAM video card 6600 GT 128MB hard drive Samsung 120GB SATA HDD R.I.P. Darrent Williams

07-26-2005, 04:19 AM	#4 (permalink)
Glitch New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 7	Adobe Premiere and Adobe Photoshop can do basically anything you can dream of if you have alot of creativity, time to learn the features, and a large wallet. I'm pretty sure with the Creative Suite 2 theres even a tool called "GOD" where you can actually alter reality to your liking. Or you can be really crude and use MS Paint and Windows Movie Maker. You'll have to save your cutouts in MS Paint as gif's to aquire the transparency for overlays.

07-26-2005, 05:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
ilovefishsticks Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Chicago, IL USA Age: 18 Posts: 396	thanks for all the help but i still dont understand it all. do i absolutly have to have a green screen or can i somhow edit it with an easier program to use than adobe premiere? and what about like how danlatimer has his avitar a moving mouth. how would you cut a certain area and move it down and make it seem like a mouth moving (in a funny way), and how did he get it moving on his avitar?? __________________ My Computer Specs NVidia GeForce 6600 256mb Intel D195PCY motherboard Intel Pentium 4 3.2 Ghtz HT 300 GB Seagate SATA HDD 2048mb 533mhtz ddr2 corsair (1x1024)(2x512) Aspire X-Dreamer II case Ultra X-Connect PSU BenQ Dvd-R and DVD-RW 5.1 logitech x530 speaker system 19 inch Fuji Plus LCD monitor

07-26-2005, 05:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
b182tm Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bronco Country Age: 19 Posts: 1,044	Well, that new Pinnacle upgrade can do backgrounds like you want. You can buy the green screen from Pinnacle. It's a cheap one on their site somewhere. I dont have it, so i dont know what the quality would be. Did you send danlatimer a PM? He might know. But then again, he could have just found it online somewhere...I hope this helps, but I'm not sure what you asked. Derek __________________ mobo ASUS A8N5X cpu AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ memory 1GB GeIL RAM video card 6600 GT 128MB hard drive Samsung 120GB SATA HDD R.I.P. Darrent Williams

07-26-2005, 01:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
DanLatimer Platinum Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Sydney, Nova Scotia Age: 22 Posts: 659	hey, I'm responding to you PM here. I used adobe image ready. its the best program to make GIF files in my opinion, all the coolness of photoshop and you can make little animated files . Its a frame by frame kinda situation, you just draw each frame and tell it how long you want each frame to stay up for. Oh and it comes with photoshop umm i've had 7.0 and CS1 and it came with both of those. I hope that that helps you. and as for your origonal post, im not really into video editing so i really cant help you with that but if you have any questions on animated GIFs ill do my best to answer them __________________ -DAN ____________________________________ MY PC: Windows XP PRO AMD XP 64 3000+ oc to 2.25ghz 1 GB PC2700 Memory Radeon 9600XT 256mbs Sound Blaster Live! 5.1 5.1 surround sound

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