a good budget system?

X24 · 08-05-2005, 07:41 PM

ok, i might decide not to go through with my mini-itx plans, and my graphics card upgrade to my parents computer, and if i decide not to, does this pc sound good for my gaming machine?

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I am wanting it to be easy to upgrade once new games start coming out, thats the only problem i have. socket 754 only alows for a 3700+ right now, and agp is kinda dying down.

granted that it will still be a few years before i run out of upgrade options, do u think it would be better to drop down a hundred or so more to get pci and socket 939?

ckfordy · 08-05-2005, 07:49 PM

yes get pciexpress and get socket 939 i dont think they make the 754 anymore and get the amd 64 3200+ you will be able to upgrade in the future

drunkbum222 · 08-05-2005, 08:04 PM

More ram
New MOBO
At least an athlon 64 3000+

Other than that it look good to me.

diduknowthat · 08-05-2005, 10:35 PM

POWMAX PSU STINK!!!!! I got the 400 watt one cause it came with my case, it's really light, like lighter than my 250 watt one and it only has 5 molexes..and the reviews say that it burns out in like a month.

elmarcorulz · 08-06-2005, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by liuliuboy

POWMAX PSU STINK!!!!! I got the 400 watt one cause it came with my case, it's really light, like lighter than my 250 watt one and it only has 5 molexes..and the reviews say that it burns out in like a month.

thast what you get for using psu's that come with cases. plus, 1 bad experience doesnt make it a bad company.

its quite a good psu x24, it has a nice ampage on the 12v rail

, although more wouldnt be a bad thing

X24 · 08-06-2005, 01:30 AM

um, thats all the ram i could afford, i was looking for a $50 mobo, and i got like 3 dollars off that mobo becuase the video card i picked out.

yes, i picked that psu becuase it had the best amperage on the 12v rail for the price.

again, this is just a budget system, if i had more money, of couse i would go with better mobo, processor, ram, graphics psu, ect ect!

X24 · 08-06-2005, 05:12 AM

ok, few questions.
first off, does anybody else have any ideas if i can improve this staying within the same budget +/- $25

also, how would that X700 compare to my geforce go 6800? (i9300)

one last thing, is it worth like $20 to move to a 3000+ clawhamer?

ilovefishsticks · 08-06-2005, 05:31 AM

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also, how would that X700 compare to my geforce go 6800? (i9300)

go with the GeForce 6800, im pretty sure its a higher chip, any1 correct me if im wrong.

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one last thing, is it worth like $20 to move to a 3000+ clawhamer?

If you have the cash go for it, if the extra 20 is better off in your pocket, stick with the 2800.

X24 · 08-06-2005, 05:35 AM

um, i met which would be the better preformer, the desktop X700, or my laptops go 6800, also, i figured out that the 3000+ was a mobile processor

XHotxEx791 · 08-06-2005, 05:53 AM

ASYS 222L 4JA Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W ATX12V Power Supply-30
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146
CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard-83
CORSAIR ValueSelect 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS512MB400-49
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A-41
Rosewill RP550 ATX 550W Power Supply-57
SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series SP1604N 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive-72
eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-169

Total $547 or if you get x700pro SAPPHIRE 100595L-BL Radeon X700PRO 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-123 , total would be $501. All prices are newegg.

Future upgrades, first arctic silver 5. I'm assuming also on this build you have windows, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Than upgrade second stick of memory. Followed by either gfx card or processor. Than sound card if needed. Case was taken from your post. No shipping and handling charges are included.

08-05-2005, 07:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
X24 Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 967	a good budget system? ok, i might decide not to go through with my mini-itx plans, and my graphics card upgrade to my parents computer, and if i decide not to, does this pc sound good for my gaming machine? ASYS 222L 4JA Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W ATX12V Power Supply - Retail Model #: 222L 4JA 450W (BLACK In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $29.99 $29.99 Update CHAINTECH VNF3-250 Socket 754 NVIDIA nForce3 250 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail Model #: VNF3-250 In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $58.00 $58.00 Update POWERCOLOR R41BG-ND3 Radeon X700 256MB GDDR3 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail Model #: R41BG-ND3 In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $119.00 $119.00 Update POWMAX LP6100D ATX 400W Power Supply - Retail Model #: LP6100D In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $27.50 $27.50 Update AMD Athlon 64 2800+ Newcastle Integrated into Chip FSB Socket 754 Processor Model ADA2800AEP4AX - OEM Model #: ADA2800AEP4AX In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $115.00 $115.00 Update Rosewill 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model RW400/512 - Retail Model #: RW400/512 In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $42.99 $42.99 Update SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series SP1614N 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM Model #: SP1614N In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $76.00 $76.00 Update Rosewill Black IDE DVD Burner Model RD-162X Black - Retail Model #: RD-162X Black In Stock Remove Add item to Cart $36.99 $36.99 Subtotal: $505.47 I am wanting it to be easy to upgrade once new games start coming out, thats the only problem i have. socket 754 only alows for a 3700+ right now, and agp is kinda dying down. granted that it will still be a few years before i run out of upgrade options, do u think it would be better to drop down a hundred or so more to get pci and socket 939? __________________ AMD 4200+ X2 Foxconn A7GM-S 2gb Wintec AMPX+2gb OCZ gold 80gb windows+320gb storage Nvidia 8800GT Antec NeoPower 550W 19"WS Hanns-G lcd

08-06-2005, 01:30 AM	#6 (permalink)
X24 Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 967	um, thats all the ram i could afford, i was looking for a $50 mobo, and i got like 3 dollars off that mobo becuase the video card i picked out. yes, i picked that psu becuase it had the best amperage on the 12v rail for the price. again, this is just a budget system, if i had more money, of couse i would go with better mobo, processor, ram, graphics psu, ect ect! __________________ AMD 4200+ X2 Foxconn A7GM-S 2gb Wintec AMPX+2gb OCZ gold 80gb windows+320gb storage Nvidia 8800GT Antec NeoPower 550W 19"WS Hanns-G lcd

08-06-2005, 05:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
X24 Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 967	ok, few questions. first off, does anybody else have any ideas if i can improve this staying within the same budget +/- $25 also, how would that X700 compare to my geforce go 6800? (i9300) one last thing, is it worth like $20 to move to a 3000+ clawhamer? __________________ AMD 4200+ X2 Foxconn A7GM-S 2gb Wintec AMPX+2gb OCZ gold 80gb windows+320gb storage Nvidia 8800GT Antec NeoPower 550W 19"WS Hanns-G lcd Last edited by X24; 08-06-2005 at 05:18 AM. Reason: add more

08-06-2005, 05:35 AM	#9 (permalink)
X24 Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 967	um, i met which would be the better preformer, the desktop X700, or my laptops go 6800, also, i figured out that the 3000+ was a mobile processor __________________ AMD 4200+ X2 Foxconn A7GM-S 2gb Wintec AMPX+2gb OCZ gold 80gb windows+320gb storage Nvidia 8800GT Antec NeoPower 550W 19"WS Hanns-G lcd

08-06-2005, 05:53 AM	#10 (permalink)
XHotxEx791 Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Hawaii Age: 18 Posts: 318	ASYS 222L 4JA Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 450W ATX12V Power Supply-30 AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Socket 939 Processor-146 CHAINTECH VNF4/Ultra Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard-83 CORSAIR ValueSelect 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model VS512MB400-49 NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A-41 Rosewill RP550 ATX 550W Power Supply-57 SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series SP1604N 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive-72 eVGA 128-P2-N368-TX Geforce 6600GT 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-169 Total $547 or if you get x700pro SAPPHIRE 100595L-BL Radeon X700PRO 128MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card-123 , total would be $501. All prices are newegg. Future upgrades, first arctic silver 5. I'm assuming also on this build you have windows, monitor, keyboard, mouse, and speakers. Than upgrade second stick of memory. Followed by either gfx card or processor. Than sound card if needed. Case was taken from your post. No shipping and handling charges are included. __________________ damasta55r-computing.net tech-forums.net cnet gamespot computerforum.com (banned account)

08-05-2005, 07:49 PM	#2 (permalink)
ckfordy banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Madison, Minnesota Age: 18 Posts: 2,744	yes get pciexpress and get socket 939 i dont think they make the 754 anymore and get the amd 64 3200+ you will be able to upgrade in the future

08-05-2005, 08:04 PM	#3 (permalink)
drunkbum222 Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 277	More ram New MOBO At least an athlon 64 3000+ Other than that it look good to me.

08-05-2005, 10:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
diduknowthat formerly liuliuboy Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Massachusetts Age: 18 Posts: 6,633	POWMAX PSU STINK!!!!! I got the 400 watt one cause it came with my case, it's really light, like lighter than my 250 watt one and it only has 5 molexes..and the reviews say that it burns out in like a month.

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