ComputerForum.com ComputerForum.com  
Go Back   Computer Forum > Computer Hardware > CPUs and Overclocking

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-07-2005, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 21
Thumbs up CPU overheating problems SOLVED!!!

Hi guys, this is my first post!

I’ve noticed many of you are complaining of overheating CPU’s, and I’d like to share my recent experience with mine overheating, and how I fixed it.

Here's my brand new setup: Intel P4 3.2G 775 prescott 800fsb, Asus P5RD1-V mobo, 1gb OCZ dual channel DDR, 400w dual fan PS, ATX case w/80mm exhaust fan, etc.

My CPU was running at 51deg Celsius on idle, and 70+ deg under load (playing games)! It got so bad the OS would kill a few apps just to decrease the load on the CPU, but temps stayed high for long periods of time. After a couple weeks like this, I fried my first mobo. After replacing it, I decided some drastic action was necessary to lower the temps before I cause more damage.

My friend who has a similar setup also had this problem. He added a ZalmanCPU heatsink and fan, and reported improvements of a few degrees but they were not significant therefore I didn’t want to go that route.

I emptied out my case and took it to a machine shop and drilled the holes and removed the shield that was limiting airflow. I installed a Thermaltake 120mm exhaust fan replacing the original 80mm. I used the 80mm for the front intake instead. This helped bring temps down from 51 to 47 deg at idle, but did not do much in terms of preventing high peak temps. The 120mm fan did help in releasing the hot air, so the time needed to return to idle temps was shortened. Needless to say I was not impressed with the results, so I wanted to take this a step further.

I went back to the shop and this time I machined a custom aluminum snorkel or “Air Guide” as the industry calls it, which directs cool air to the CPU from a side panel opening. Only difference was, my air guide would be force fed by another 80mm ultra quiet fan forcing cool outside air directly to the OEM CPU heatsink/fan assembly. It works in similar way to a supercharger or turbo on a car, only this one is electric powered instead of belt or exhaust driven.

The results were staggering!!!

Idle temps dropped from the initial 47 degrees after the first round of mods to 28 degrees!!! That’s a drop of almost 50% from before!

Peak temps dropped from a scorching 70+ degrees to only 42 degrees MAX! And the best part is the time it takes for temps to drop from peak back to idle is around 1 minute!

While looking for residual hot spots, I found a pocket of hot air sitting in between the back of the power supply and the CD/DVD drives at the top of the case. For the fun of it I added a 40mm fan I had lying around as a blowhole to see what it would do. The power supply is noticeably cooler, the power supply fans run at a much lower rpm now, and the time from peak to idle temps is well within a minute now.

I’m adding a fan controller next week so I can manually adjust the rpm of the 120mm exhaust fan and the turbo air guide fan as needed, and to see if I can bring the sound levels down from 35db to 25db.

If you guys are interested I’ll post pics tonight when I get home.
puttputtgolf2000 is offline   Reply With Quote


Old 09-07-2005, 10:55 PM   #2 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: LONDON
Age: 24
Posts: 1,981
Default

post a pic of your modded case
__________________
Windows Vista Home Pre x32
AMD 4200X2 S939 512K (2.2)
512M ASUS EN7600GSTOP SILENT
1x80Gb 1x320gb SATA2
2Gb Dual Channel PC3200 Non-ECC DDR Memory
Gbyte K8N PRO SLi s939 nF4
530W TAGAN 2FORCE T530-U22
Clabs Aud 2 ZS 7.1 OEM
robina_80 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2005, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
VIP Member
 
Hairy_Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Plymouth, UK
Age: 25
Posts: 2,553
Default

sounds impressive, did you change your heatsink or do you still use the sock one?
__________________
Intel Core 2 Duo E6750
EVGA nForce 650i Ultra mainboard
EVGA 7950 GT KO SC 512Mb w/ Zalman VF-900Cu
2Gb of OCZ GOLD XTC *SPECIAL OPS* Eition


Notebook - Acer Aspire 9300 - Turion TL-60/ 2 Gb RAM/ Geforce Go 7600 128 Dedicated (400 Mb turbocache)
Hairy_Lee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2005, 01:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
Silver Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: 11510
Age: 19
Posts: 119
Default

i have the same problem. I tried a new fan but i looked into the funnel thing and i was thinking of puttin a new fan on top of that. You've convinced me! thank you. Also id like to say we're u drilled ur holes (the first set)... Thanks -adam
__________________
I'm awesome
georgi0u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2005, 02:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
formerly liuliuboy
 
diduknowthat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Age: 17
Posts: 6,485
Default

lol i added an airduct and i didn't see that drastic results...hmmmmm
__________________
Dell Latitude XT Convertible Tablet
Intel Core 2 Duo U7600 1.2ghz CPU
3GB DDR2 677 Memory
120GB 1.8" PATA Hard Drive
ATI Radeon Xpress 1250 Graphics
12.1" WXGA LED Touch Screen
N-Trig Capacitive Touch/Active Digitizer
diduknowthat is online now   Reply With Quote


Old 09-08-2005, 03:58 AM   #6 (permalink)
Platinum Member
 
Johnnyboy0056's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Miami, Florida
Age: 23
Posts: 666
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liuliuboy
lol i added an airduct and i didn't see that drastic results...hmmmmm

lol, thats becuase u dont have ur air condition turned DOWN TO 28 DEGREES!
__________________
John G. :rolleyes:
Sweet Ride- By Me, For Me :)
____________________________________________
ATX Clear Side Tower with 500 Watt Power Supply
EPoX 5NVA+sli Motherboard
Intel Pentium 4 CPU 3.40 GHz
1 GB DDR2 RAM (2 x 512 MB)
Seagate 160 GB HDD w/ SATA Connection
ATI Radeon X700 PCI Express Video Card
Johnnyboy0056 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2005, 06:05 AM   #7 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 21
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hairy_Lee
sounds impressive, did you change your heatsink or do you still use the sock one?

I'm still using the OEM fan/heatsink after hearing my friend's mediocre experience with his aftermarket one.
__________________




Intel P4 3.2Ghz 775 Prescott 800FSB
Asus P5RD1-V
1GB OCZ 3200 DDR dual channel
400W dual fan Tisonic
Maxtor DiamondMax10 SATA 250GB
LeadTech nVidia 6600GT
LG DVD 16x dual layer
Custom case w/TURBO AirGuide mod (28c)



puttputtgolf2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2005, 06:08 AM   #8 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 21
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by liuliuboy
lol i added an airduct and i didn't see that drastic results...hmmmmm

Did you add a fan inside your airduct for intake or just the normal setup?
I forgot to mention that the ambient temps in my room when I did these readings were around 25/26 degrees, so I was quite pleased with getting 28 deg at idle.
__________________




Intel P4 3.2Ghz 775 Prescott 800FSB
Asus P5RD1-V
1GB OCZ 3200 DDR dual channel
400W dual fan Tisonic
Maxtor DiamondMax10 SATA 250GB
LeadTech nVidia 6600GT
LG DVD 16x dual layer
Custom case w/TURBO AirGuide mod (28c)



puttputtgolf2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2005, 11:38 AM   #9 (permalink)
Bronze Member
 
Fuzzi Bear's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 26
Default

(also sent as a PM to puttputt - but thought others may benefit from the reply)

Puttputt,

Hi mate,

i was VERY impressed to read that you got idle temps in their high-twenties.

I've practically got the same CPU as you. i got a P4 775 Prescott 3.0 (rather than 3.2 like you)

And my temps are identical to your original ones. i got idle at 51c and load at say 63-65c (not quite as high as 70)

but the point is, im about to buy an Antec P180 which is excellent for cooling / solencing, so i dont really want to go cutting air duct holes in the side pannel (or did you actually not do this and i read your post wrong?)

Anyway, im also going to see what difference this case makes to the temps, and if still high, i was going to get a Thermalright XP-120 with a 120mm fan on it, which i hear is good for freezing CPUs.

What are your thoughts mate?

thanks.
__________________
There are ONLY 10 types of people who understand binary. Those that do, and those that dont!
-----
As Jonny Five so elequently put it... "Need more input!!"
Fuzzi Bear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2005, 05:23 PM   #10 (permalink)
New Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 21
Default

Hi Fuzzi Bear, thanks for your kind comments.

I just finished putting together two new systems over the past long weekend. What a bad way to spend a long weekend, I know

Both are P4 541J 3.2Ghz, Asus mobo, 1gb ddr, and use the same Antec Sonata II case with a 450w smartpower supply, 120mm tri-speed fan for exhaust, and an 80mm fan for intake. The Antec cases had their own snorkel/air guide built into it.

I only had the systems for a short period of time because I had to deliver them to their new homes, but I noticed their idle temps were in the mid to high 30’s with ambient temps in my house at around 20 degrees Celsius. I guess with these newer cpu chips, this kinda temps are acceptable and is regarded as the norm. Both these systems used the OEM fan/heatsink assembly from Intel as does mine.

Side-by-Side in the same room, mine reads a few degrees cooler, I attribute the difference in temps to the difference in the snorkel design. The Antec design has the intake opening at the rear-bottom of the case about 5” beneath the 120mm exhaust fan and does not have an intake fan feeding air into it.

This is my only experience with Antec cases, so your results may differ. Do others who have Antec cases here have around the same results?
__________________




Intel P4 3.2Ghz 775 Prescott 800FSB
Asus P5RD1-V
1GB OCZ 3200 DDR dual channel
400W dual fan Tisonic
Maxtor DiamondMax10 SATA 250GB
LeadTech nVidia 6600GT
LG DVD 16x dual layer
Custom case w/TURBO AirGuide mod (28c)



puttputtgolf2000 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 05:25 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2008 Computer Forum and Web Design Forum