Building a new PC

sven556 · 08-27-2004, 03:16 AM

I will be building a new AMD based computer in the near future and I'm hoping some of you guys will take a look at the hardware that I've chosen so far.

RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case with 420W Power Supply, Model "ATX-868WBP" -RETAIL

ASUS "A7N8X-E Deluxe" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL

AMD Athlon XP 2600+ "Barton", 333MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM

Albatron nVIDIA GeForce FX5700 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "FX5700Q" -RETAIL

Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - OEM

Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD1200JD, OEM Drive Only

Thermaltake POLO 735 Extreme 3 in 1 CPU Cooler for AMD K7 & K8 and Intel P4 processors, Model "POLO 735" -RETAIL

Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM

So far with round cables and a tube of arctic silver, the total is at $742 Which is a little more than I was hoping for, but that happens everytime I buy something. I did go with the SATA hdd and the dual memory kit which is what put the price over my expectations.

Are there any changes that you would recommend?

Also, I want a decent quality video capture card, which one would you recommend?

Thanks in advance,
Sven

4W4K3 · 08-27-2004, 03:23 AM

i would change 2 things...

i would get that same chip, but the MOBILE one. overclocking with a mobile is alot better than with a desktop chip in my experiences. might be a few $ cheaper too.

i would also suggest getting OCZ EB/EL ram if you can afford it. im not sure if its cheaper than corsair but i imagine it is...i got my kit for $130, but if you want a gig i wouldnt know the rice. OCZ EB is one of the best RAM's you can buy right now i believe.

nrclptcnsmniak · 08-27-2004, 04:31 AM

also there is a good deal at frys for a 160 gb hd. its ide but same 7200rps. it's like 50 i think... but then again ... frys is always a little iffy...

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 05:02 AM

If it was me I would trying go AMD 64..

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 02:19 PM

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If it was me I would trying go AMD 64..

That would be a bit difficult to squeeze into $742 -- which already is more than he intended to spend

sven556 · 08-27-2004, 05:43 PM

How much more would I have to spend to get a good amd 64 bit system, and how much of a performance increase is there? Can I make it work with $800?
I want to get a good computer that can last me a few years, I know even in a year I probably won't be able to run the newest games but I still want a decent system.

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 05:50 PM

Well You could pick up a 2800+ socket 754 for about 150 bucks. And from what I've read, I could be mistaken.. The Amd 64 vs xp, the 64 has 25% better performance clock for clock than xp. Ha.. the amd 64 socket 754 2800+ is 3 dollars cheaper than the amd xp 2800+.. Trippy..

After looking at newegg.com it looks like you could get a socket 754 2800+ with an Nforce 3 motherboard for about 50-60 bucks more.. Here's link to both.

Cpu - 146 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-452&depa=0

Motherboard - 85 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...138-237&depa=0

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 06:48 PM

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How much more would I have to spend to get a good amd 64 bit system, and how much of a performance increase is there? Can I make it work with $800?

No doubt you CAN get it to fit into $800 bucks but it wont be something that will survive (as it is already obsolete). Its defintiely a better route than sticking with the AthlonXP which is really obsolete now but it's your call. Personally I'd try and cram a i865 system into $800 but that's me

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Amd 64 vs xp, the 64 has 25% better performance clock for clock than xp

Where'd you get that 25% from?

Quote:

I want to get a good computer that can last me a few years, I know even in a year I probably won't be able to run the newest games but I still want a decent system.

Well then definitely consider the Athlon64(Socket754) and/or the Pentium4

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 07:02 PM

I read 25% off of a computer forum. * i don't think it's this one * But they could have been mistaken.

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 07:05 PM

25% sounds about right... i was just looking to reading a bit more about it.

08-27-2004, 03:16 AM	#1 (permalink)
sven556 Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 34	Building a new PC I will be building a new AMD based computer in the near future and I'm hoping some of you guys will take a look at the hardware that I've chosen so far. RAIDMAX Black 10-bay Case with 420W Power Supply, Model "ATX-868WBP" -RETAIL ASUS "A7N8X-E Deluxe" nForce2 Ultra 400 Chipset Motherboard for AMD Socket A CPU -RETAIL AMD Athlon XP 2600+ "Barton", 333MHz FSB, 512K Cache Processor - OEM Albatron nVIDIA GeForce FX5700 Video Card, 256MB DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP, Model "FX5700Q" -RETAIL Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 1G(512MBx2) DDR PC-3200 - OEM Western Digital 120GB 7200RPM SATA Hard Drive, Model WD1200JD, OEM Drive Only Thermaltake POLO 735 Extreme 3 in 1 CPU Cooler for AMD K7 & K8 and Intel P4 processors, Model "POLO 735" -RETAIL Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack SP1a - OEM So far with round cables and a tube of arctic silver, the total is at $742 Which is a little more than I was hoping for, but that happens everytime I buy something. I did go with the SATA hdd and the dual memory kit which is what put the price over my expectations. Are there any changes that you would recommend? Also, I want a decent quality video capture card, which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance, Sven

08-27-2004, 03:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
4W4K3 VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lewisville, TX Age: 20 Posts: 6,845	i would change 2 things... i would get that same chip, but the MOBILE one. overclocking with a mobile is alot better than with a desktop chip in my experiences. might be a few $ cheaper too. i would also suggest getting OCZ EB/EL ram if you can afford it. im not sure if its cheaper than corsair but i imagine it is...i got my kit for $130, but if you want a gig i wouldnt know the rice. OCZ EB is one of the best RAM's you can buy right now i believe. __________________ My Computer I choose to believe what I was programmed to believe. Can I eat your brain? FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358

08-27-2004, 05:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	Well You could pick up a 2800+ socket 754 for about 150 bucks. And from what I've read, I could be mistaken.. The Amd 64 vs xp, the 64 has 25% better performance clock for clock than xp. Ha.. the amd 64 socket 754 2800+ is 3 dollars cheaper than the amd xp 2800+.. Trippy.. After looking at newegg.com it looks like you could get a socket 754 2800+ with an Nforce 3 motherboard for about 50-60 bucks more.. Here's link to both. Cpu - 146 dollars http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-452&depa=0 Motherboard - 85 dollars http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...138-237&depa=0 Last edited by Timbo; 08-27-2004 at 05:58 PM.

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08-27-2004, 04:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
nrclptcnsmniak New Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 9	also there is a good deal at frys for a 160 gb hd. its ide but same 7200rps. it's like 50 i think... but then again ... frys is always a little iffy...

08-27-2004, 05:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	If it was me I would trying go AMD 64..

08-27-2004, 05:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
sven556 Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 34	How much more would I have to spend to get a good amd 64 bit system, and how much of a performance increase is there? Can I make it work with $800? I want to get a good computer that can last me a few years, I know even in a year I probably won't be able to run the newest games but I still want a decent system.

08-27-2004, 07:02 PM	#9 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	I read 25% off of a computer forum. * i don't think it's this one * But they could have been mistaken.