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vinnybarbarino · 08-27-2004, 03:41 PM

i might be asking too much of your time but i will be a first time CPU builder soon and im looking into a system for gaming (doom3,UT2004,far cry) mainly - budget of about $1000-$1200.
i am asking for a list of parts from newegg as i will buy stuff from there and if you can make a list with added links and specifics (brands/part#) of each parts so i will know what to buy - to make a very compatible system parts list.

i prefer AMD XP or 64
motherboard
case (prefer silver or black)(conservative look)
PSU + fans
video card
hard drive (about 120GB 7200rpm)
DVD rom
CDRW
RAM memory about 1G if possible
all parts/cards for connectivity-wireless ready as well.
sound ill use that of the MB
windows XP pro

hope you can come up with a list with links so i can just fire away and buy without worrying about compatibility.

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 05:04 PM

CPU
Athlon64 3500+ (Newcastle) $425USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-450&depa=1

MOBO
MSI K8T Neo2-Fir $125USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-463&depa=1

CASE + PSU
Thermaltake VA3000 $120USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...133-140&depa=1

HSF
Thermaltake Polo735 $33USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-042&depa=1

HDD
Maxtor 120GB 6Y1s $73USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-136&depa=1

RAM
Corsair Value Select 1GB Kit $149USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-440&depa=1

OPTICAL 01
LiteOn 52x32x52 Black $29USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-941&depa=1

OPTICAL 02
Sony 16X DVDROM Black $26
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...101-124&depa=1

WIRELESS
ASUS WL-138g $44USD
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...320-104&depa=1

VIDEO
Chaintec FX5900XT $175
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-072&depa=1

Total Cost $1197
The video card is a tad hurting for the system. Add another $179 and you can have 2x120GB drives and a GeForce6800 (or just $104 if you only want the single 120GB drive)

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 05:21 PM

Well, First of all you might want to wait till AMD gets support for PCI-X. Just because of the SLI ability with these cards.. * atleast the 6600 - 6800 *. This is getting two video cards, and linking them together. You get about 1.8X the performance. I'd also wait for the 6600 GT. About 200 dollars, and should out perform 5950 ultra, and 9800 XT. This is due to be released with PCi-X in september,and AGP in october. I would really personally wait a few months before buying a system.. * I am gonna buy one 'round new year.. *

Motherboard, Asus "A8v Deluxe" 137 Dollars.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...131-510&depa=1

CPU, AMD 64 3500+ socket 939, 400 dollars, * zipzoomfly.com was 40 dollars cheaper*
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80717-R

Ram, 1 GB of Corsair PC-3200, 150 dollars
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-440&depa=1

Videocard, Radeon 9800 Pro, * I REALLY would wait for 6600 GT *, I believe this has the R360 core so it SHOULD be softmoddable to a 9800 XT. 200 dollars.
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-127&depa=1

Soundcard, I would Just go onboard.

Case/powersupply, Thermaltake Gaming Tower, 420 watt PS. You could get something less flashy cheaper I'd bet. 110 dollars.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=370458

Harddrive, Seagate Barracuda 160 Gig harddriver, 7200 RPM. 95 dollars.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=101554

CD-RW/DVD drive. DVD 16x. CD-RW 52X24X52. 40 dollars.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=333018

Oh shit. I forgot to switch back to newegg.. Anyways you have the parts atleast. I'm pretty sure I didn't forget anything.. But I really, really must stress that I would wait a few months until the 6600 GT comes out/ 6800's drop in price, AMD PCI-X comes out,and the AMD 64 socket 939 start to drop a little. The prices comes out to a total of.. $1132.. Hopefully your in a state that the site doesn't tax.. :-/, and if you need a floppy you could pick one up or just take it out of your current computer. * assuming you have one *..
Well take it easy..

:Edit: Bastard....! You beat me to it.. Atleast he has two viable options now.. But I think we are pretty much the same.

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 06:53 PM

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Well, First of all you might want to wait till AMD gets support for PCI-X. Just because of the SLI ability with these cards.. * atleast the 6600 - 6800 *. This is getting two video cards, and linking them together. You get about 1.8X the performance.

Thats very ambitious for $1200 budget

Quote:

I'd also wait for the 6600 GT

Most definitely a good call there

Quote:

Motherboard, Asus "A8v Deluxe" 137 Dollars.

Saw that and actually wrote it down but if you get the A8V ... get the wireless edition (roughly $150) as then you wont need the wireless setup expense. Other than that, you might as well save as much as you can (naturally without skipping out corners)

Quote:

:Edit: Bastard....! You beat me to it..

Get used to it

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 07:00 PM

And about the 6600 GT's..I didn't mean buy two of them right now. I meant buy one, then possibly another in like a year or two when performances starts to drag.

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 07:02 PM

Quote:

And about the 6600 GT's..I didn't mean buy two of them right now. I meant buy one, then possibly another in like a year or two when performances starts to drag.

Well naturally, with a budget capped at $1200 one wont be considering (a) two 6600s and (b) an SLI board

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 07:10 PM

Oh yeah.. I overlooked the fact that SLI board prices are prolly be threw the roof.

**Praetor** · 08-27-2004, 07:19 PM

Yeah its a lot harder to spec a system when we're given a price cap eh?

Timbo · 08-27-2004, 07:31 PM

Even still, a single 6600 GT should perform well. and if not the AGP will still be under 1200.

vinnybarbarino · 08-28-2004, 02:10 AM

what do the internet sellers mean when they say -ASSEMBLED , INSTALLED UPDATED AND TUNED?

If i build my own system - how do i tune the system to where there will be less conflicts?

08-27-2004, 03:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
vinnybarbarino New Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	SPoon feed- Help guys. i might be asking too much of your time but i will be a first time CPU builder soon and im looking into a system for gaming (doom3,UT2004,far cry) mainly - budget of about $1000-$1200. i am asking for a list of parts from newegg as i will buy stuff from there and if you can make a list with added links and specifics (brands/part#) of each parts so i will know what to buy - to make a very compatible system parts list. i prefer AMD XP or 64 motherboard case (prefer silver or black)(conservative look) PSU + fans video card hard drive (about 120GB 7200rpm) DVD rom CDRW RAM memory about 1G if possible all parts/cards for connectivity-wireless ready as well. sound ill use that of the MB windows XP pro hope you can come up with a list with links so i can just fire away and buy without worrying about compatibility.

08-27-2004, 05:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Praetor Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 24 Posts: 19,946	CPU Athlon64 3500+ (Newcastle) $425USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-450&depa=1 MOBO MSI K8T Neo2-Fir $125USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...130-463&depa=1 CASE + PSU Thermaltake VA3000 $120USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...133-140&depa=1 HSF Thermaltake Polo735 $33USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-042&depa=1 HDD Maxtor 120GB 6Y1s $73USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...144-136&depa=1 RAM Corsair Value Select 1GB Kit $149USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-440&depa=1 OPTICAL 01 LiteOn 52x32x52 Black $29USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-941&depa=1 OPTICAL 02 Sony 16X DVDROM Black $26 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...101-124&depa=1 WIRELESS ASUS WL-138g $44USD http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...320-104&depa=1 VIDEO Chaintec FX5900XT $175 http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-072&depa=1 Total Cost $1197 The video card is a tad hurting for the system. Add another $179 and you can have 2x120GB drives and a GeForce6800 (or just $104 if you only want the single 120GB drive) __________________ ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP, Q6600@3.7 / ASUS P5ND, E6400@3.8 4GB OCz Platinum XTC 8500 / 4GB CorsairXMS2 6400 5x500GB Seagate 7200.10 / 2x500 Seagate 7200.10 OCz 8800GTX 768MB @ 630/800 / 2x Galaxy 8800GT SLI

08-27-2004, 05:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	Well, First of all you might want to wait till AMD gets support for PCI-X. Just because of the SLI ability with these cards.. * atleast the 6600 - 6800 . This is getting two video cards, and linking them together. You get about 1.8X the performance. I'd also wait for the 6600 GT. About 200 dollars, and should out perform 5950 ultra, and 9800 XT. This is due to be released with PCi-X in september,and AGP in october. I would really personally wait a few months before buying a system.. I am gonna buy one 'round new year.. * Motherboard, Asus "A8v Deluxe" 137 Dollars. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...131-510&depa=1 CPU, AMD 64 3500+ socket 939, 400 dollars, * zipzoomfly.com was 40 dollars cheaper* http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80717-R Ram, 1 GB of Corsair PC-3200, 150 dollars http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-440&depa=1 Videocard, Radeon 9800 Pro, * I REALLY would wait for 6600 GT , I believe this has the R360 core so it SHOULD be softmoddable to a 9800 XT. 200 dollars. http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-127&depa=1 Soundcard, I would Just go onboard. Case/powersupply, Thermaltake Gaming Tower, 420 watt PS. You could get something less flashy cheaper I'd bet. 110 dollars. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=370458 Harddrive, Seagate Barracuda 160 Gig harddriver, 7200 RPM. 95 dollars. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=101554 CD-RW/DVD drive. DVD 16x. CD-RW 52X24X52. 40 dollars. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...uctCode=333018 Oh shit. I forgot to switch back to newegg.. Anyways you have the parts atleast. I'm pretty sure I didn't forget anything.. But I really, really must stress that I would wait a few months until the 6600 GT comes out/ 6800's drop in price, AMD PCI-X comes out,and the AMD 64 socket 939 start to drop a little. The prices comes out to a total of.. $1132.. Hopefully your in a state that the site doesn't tax.. :-/, and if you need a floppy you could pick one up or just take it out of your current computer. assuming you have one .. Well take it easy.. :Edit: Bastard....! You beat me to it.. Atleast he has two viable options now.. But I think we are pretty much the same. Last edited by Timbo; 08-27-2004 at 05:24 PM.*

08-27-2004, 07:19 PM	#8 (permalink)
Praetor Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 24 Posts: 19,946	Yeah its a lot harder to spec a system when we're given a price cap eh? __________________ ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP, Q6600@3.7 / ASUS P5ND, E6400@3.8 4GB OCz Platinum XTC 8500 / 4GB CorsairXMS2 6400 5x500GB Seagate 7200.10 / 2x500 Seagate 7200.10 OCz 8800GTX 768MB @ 630/800 / 2x Galaxy 8800GT SLI

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08-27-2004, 07:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	And about the 6600 GT's..I didn't mean buy two of them right now. I meant buy one, then possibly another in like a year or two when performances starts to drag.

08-27-2004, 07:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	Oh yeah.. I overlooked the fact that SLI board prices are prolly be threw the roof.

08-27-2004, 07:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Timbo Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 119	Even still, a single 6600 GT should perform well. and if not the AGP will still be under 1200.

08-28-2004, 02:10 AM	#10 (permalink)
vinnybarbarino New Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 18	what do the internet sellers mean when they say -ASSEMBLED , INSTALLED UPDATED AND TUNED? If i build my own system - how do i tune the system to where there will be less conflicts?