Alienware Desktop

Rexhasta · 10-01-2005, 09:26 PM

I am looking for a game computer, and I have heard nothing but great reviews about Alienwares customer service and quality products.

I have a few questions about Alienware. Keep in mind for these questions, I have a budget of about $4000 CDN to buy a new game computer with.

1) Which Alienware desktop would be best, if I wanted the best possible for the budget I have?

2) Do the Alienware packages include Monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers?

3) Can I upgrade or modify it later on, or does Alienware use propriotary parts that make it difficult?

5) How important is Liquid Cooling when playing games?

4) Is Alienware the way to go, or would it be best to build a new computer?

Basically I want to upgrade to a computer that can play the latest games like Doom 3 and Battlefield 2.

Feel free to answer as few or as many as you can, any help is appreciated.

**Praetor** · 10-01-2005, 09:32 PM

Holy crap. For $4000CAD i could spec out at least two bleeding edge machines and probably three or four decent machines. For starters:
1. If you insist on buying OEM, buy from Voodoo (1. they're Canadian

2. far superior inside jobbies 3. phase change cooler)
2. Id suggest you build your own or save $1000 to have a store build it for you

Now to answer your questions
1. If you insist on blowing the money and/or buying Alienware, well there is a high probablility the best you can get is ther most expensive ALX AMD64 based one they offer
2. Yes
3. you can upgrade later on but their selection of parts of certain parts isnt spectacular to start with (i.e., they've got an Abit AN8 board in most of their A64 boxes -- a solid board -- but by far not a leader nor does it have anything spectacular)
5. Not very
4. Build your own.

lil9 · 10-01-2005, 09:52 PM

$4000CAD

holy shit you could build your own then go on holiday

M0ddingMan1a · 10-01-2005, 09:57 PM

reli tho... dont get alien ware unless u dont have time to get ur own. they dont reli offter THAT much high tech parts etc. they do keep up with the leading stuff...but.. yea. they charge u the full price for everthing. u dont need THAT much high power to play d00m 3 or bf2. for 4000 CND, u can get at least 2 computers that can handle those games.

**Praetor** · 10-01-2005, 09:59 PM

Quote:

for 4000 CND, u can get at least 2 computers that can handle those game

You could get 10 computers that can handle them. But how well? More than two machines that do 1600x1200 4AA 8AF @ 40fps+ is pushing it... Dont also forget the monitors for each

Rexhasta · 10-01-2005, 10:10 PM

I am just looking for one machine to spend on that is as close to the pinnacle of gaming computers as I can get.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praetor

Holy crap. For $4000CAD i could spec out at least two bleeding edge machines and probably three or four decent machines.

If you wouldn't mind, could you recommend specs for one computer (again, for up to $4000 CDN, but that includes Monitor and stuff), that is pretty much as bleeding edge as I can get for my budget?

M0ddingMan1a · 10-01-2005, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praetor

You could get 10 computers that can handle them. But how well? More than two machines that do 1600x1200 4AA 8AF @ 40fps+ is pushing it... Dont also forget the monitors for each

LOL ok ok praetor. but, im thinkin more about top notch (or near it) cuz hes plannin to spend big. but if he gets 10, he could have his own LAN center.

M0ddingMan1a · 10-01-2005, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rexhasta

I am just looking for one machine to spend on that is as close to the pinnacle of gaming computers as I can get.

If you wouldn't mind, could you recommend specs for one computer (again, for up to $4000 CDN, but that includes Monitor and stuff), that is pretty much as bleeding edge as I can get for my budget?

u can get a good enough one, hell, mabye even better if u dont go with alienware, if u wanna save money and just go with 2000CND. plus about...500-700 more for the other periperals( keybaord, GAMING mouse, monitor, speakers?) etc.

**Praetor** · 10-01-2005, 10:30 PM

Well it comes down to whether you want to build a system for single or multithreaded gaming (but the price delta isnt that much on the overall scale of things)

- AMD Athlon64 FX-57 [ADAFX57DAA5BN, 1190CAD] or AMD Athlon64 X2-4800 [ADA4800DAA6CD, 1000CAD]
- Two EVGA 7800GTX KO [670CAD each]
- DFI Lanparty UT NF4SLI-DR [230CAD]
- 4x512 Mushkin RedlineXP PC4000 [2225 @ 3.3, 420CAD]
- Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS [75CAD]
- Antec NeoPower 480W [120CAD]
- Two Maxtor DiamondMax10 250GB [16MB, 120CAD each]
- NEC 3540 [50CAD]
Subtotal = 3475-3665 depending on the chip
Plenty of room for a monitor or two.

M0ddingMan1a · 10-01-2005, 10:30 PM

if ur reli crazy about alienware, then this should be close enough for ya. its almost 4000 CND:
http://www.alienware.com/ShoppingCar...ppingCart.aspx

10-01-2005, 09:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rexhasta New Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Western Canada Age: 18 Posts: 13	Alienware Desktop I am looking for a game computer, and I have heard nothing but great reviews about Alienwares customer service and quality products. I have a few questions about Alienware. Keep in mind for these questions, I have a budget of about $4000 CDN to buy a new game computer with. 1) Which Alienware desktop would be best, if I wanted the best possible for the budget I have? 2) Do the Alienware packages include Monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers? 3) Can I upgrade or modify it later on, or does Alienware use propriotary parts that make it difficult? 5) How important is Liquid Cooling when playing games? 4) Is Alienware the way to go, or would it be best to build a new computer? Basically I want to upgrade to a computer that can play the latest games like Doom 3 and Battlefield 2. Feel free to answer as few or as many as you can, any help is appreciated.

10-01-2005, 09:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Praetor Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 19,954	Holy crap. For $4000CAD i could spec out at least two bleeding edge machines and probably three or four decent machines. For starters: 1. If you insist on buying OEM, buy from Voodoo (1. they're Canadian 2. far superior inside jobbies 3. phase change cooler) 2. Id suggest you build your own or save $1000 to have a store build it for you Now to answer your questions 1. If you insist on blowing the money and/or buying Alienware, well there is a high probablility the best you can get is ther most expensive ALX AMD64 based one they offer 2. Yes 3. you can upgrade later on but their selection of parts of certain parts isnt spectacular to start with (i.e., they've got an Abit AN8 board in most of their A64 boxes -- a solid board -- but by far not a leader nor does it have anything spectacular) 5. Not very 4. Build your own. __________________ ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP, Q6600@3.7 / ASUS P5ND, E6400@3.8 4GB OCz Platinum XTC 8500 / 4GB CorsairXMS2 6400 5x500GB Seagate 7200.10 / 2x500 Seagate 7200.10 OCz 8800GTX 768MB @ 630/800 / 2x Galaxy 8800GT SLI Last edited by Praetor; 10-01-2005 at 10:00 PM.

10-01-2005, 09:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
M0ddingMan1a Diamond Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Age: 19 Posts: 1,614	reli tho... dont get alien ware unless u dont have time to get ur own. they dont reli offter THAT much high tech parts etc. they do keep up with the leading stuff...but.. yea. they charge u the full price for everthing. u dont need THAT much high power to play d00m 3 or bf2. for 4000 CND, u can get at least 2 computers that can handle those games. __________________ Entertainment Rig// My FUll BLUE Rig: CPU: AMD 64 Clawhammer 3400+//CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+ Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT 250gb//Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS RAM: 1 gig pc3200 Corsair XMS//RAM: 1 gig PC3200 PQi Video Card: Ati AIW 9800pro 128mb//Video Card: Sapphire Ati 9600pro 128mb HDs: 80gig Sata, 200gig ATA//HDs: 250gig WD, 80gig WD, 30gig WD, 13.5gig IBM PSU: 500w X-Infinity//PSU: 500W Ultra-X Titanium Blue

10-01-2005, 10:30 PM	#9 (permalink)
Praetor Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 19,954	Well it comes down to whether you want to build a system for single or multithreaded gaming (but the price delta isnt that much on the overall scale of things) - AMD Athlon64 FX-57 [ADAFX57DAA5BN, 1190CAD] or AMD Athlon64 X2-4800 [ADA4800DAA6CD, 1000CAD] - Two EVGA 7800GTX KO [670CAD each] - DFI Lanparty UT NF4SLI-DR [230CAD] - 4x512 Mushkin RedlineXP PC4000 [2225 @ 3.3, 420CAD] - Soundblaster Audigy2 ZS [75CAD] - Antec NeoPower 480W [120CAD] - Two Maxtor DiamondMax10 250GB [16MB, 120CAD each] - NEC 3540 [50CAD] Subtotal = 3475-3665 depending on the chip Plenty of room for a monitor or two. __________________ ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP, Q6600@3.7 / ASUS P5ND, E6400@3.8 4GB OCz Platinum XTC 8500 / 4GB CorsairXMS2 6400 5x500GB Seagate 7200.10 / 2x500 Seagate 7200.10 OCz 8800GTX 768MB @ 630/800 / 2x Galaxy 8800GT SLI

10-01-2005, 10:30 PM	#10 (permalink)
M0ddingMan1a Diamond Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Age: 19 Posts: 1,614	if ur reli crazy about alienware, then this should be close enough for ya. its almost 4000 CND: http://www.alienware.com/ShoppingCar...ppingCart.aspx __________________ Entertainment Rig// My FUll BLUE Rig: CPU: AMD 64 Clawhammer 3400+//CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+ Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT 250gb//Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS RAM: 1 gig pc3200 Corsair XMS//RAM: 1 gig PC3200 PQi Video Card: Ati AIW 9800pro 128mb//Video Card: Sapphire Ati 9600pro 128mb HDs: 80gig Sata, 200gig ATA//HDs: 250gig WD, 80gig WD, 30gig WD, 13.5gig IBM PSU: 500w X-Infinity//PSU: 500W Ultra-X Titanium Blue

10-01-2005, 09:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
lil9 Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hull Age: 20 Posts: 39	$4000CAD holy shit you could build your own then go on holiday

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