Overclocking Limitations.

Don't Hack!!! · 10-13-2005, 01:46 PM

I have a pentium 4 orginal clock 3.0 i can only get it to go to 3.28 before my comp does weird things and shuts down randomly under loads. Why is that some people can get it to like 4.1 gigz and i can only get mine to 3.0 I checked the temp of my cpu during max load times and its like 62max and like 50c idle. Is it because my cooling is insuficient

**apj101** · 10-13-2005, 02:10 PM

Those tempare high, did you use thermal greece. What cooling do you have, maybe reset the hsf on the cpu with some fresh artic silver

As for the oc, have you uped to vcore, have you upped the vdimm (it oculd be your ram holding you back)

Don't Hack!!! · 10-14-2005, 01:10 AM

i got 1.5 gigs of ram or do you mean the speed of the ram.. Okay those temps are hot... so then when i get a 6800gt i heard they easily oc to 6800 ultra specs so i should just buy a 6800gt. I will buy thermal paste and a new heatsink/fan with that. what do you mean by vdimm...

shupola · 10-14-2005, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Don't Hack!!!

I have a pentium 4 orginal clock 3.0 i can only get it to go to 3.28 before my comp does weird things and shuts down randomly under loads. Why is that some people can get it to like 4.1 gigz and i can only get mine to 3.0 I checked the temp of my cpu during max load times and its like 62max and like 50c idle. Is it because my cooling is insuficient

could be the type of cpu u have. dont know much about it but might be

[-0MEGA-] · 10-14-2005, 03:12 AM

thats not that hot for a P4, my celeron gets to around 70C+ during heavy loads, and my old p4 was around 50-60C. Do you get error messages about your hard drive not working or missing files?

Don't Hack!!! · 10-14-2005, 03:52 AM

no.... why... so whats stoping me to reach 4.0

LobsterLover · 10-14-2005, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Don't Hack!!!

no.... why... so whats stoping me to reach 4.0

thoose temps are pretty high, despite what others seem to say (70* is insane! how do you have a stable system)

the overclockability depends from chip to chip, so it's really luck, and I would be hard pressed to find someone with a full 1GHz overclock without a very nice cooling solution, the people that have these have invested $200+ in cooling supplies, and will probably have the proc die in a couple of years anyway. so ask yourself, is 250MHz worth having your computer unstable and having it die in 5 years instead of 30? on top of which, you really shouldn't be doing any overclocking unless you know what all the voltages are and what CAS latency is, and RAM timings, you should study up for a couple of years (leave your proc alone for now) and then try again.

**Praetor** · 10-14-2005, 06:39 AM

For starters, what are the specs of the box?
QUESTIONS 101.

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you really shouldn't be doing any overclocking unless you know what all the voltages are and what CAS latency is, and RAM timings, you should study up for a couple of years (leave your proc alone for now) and then try again.

if you stop and think about it, it's hardly neccesary -- ideal to know yes, but not critical

@DontHach
Youve been around long enough to see OC 101.

LobsterLover · 10-14-2005, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Praetor

For starters, what are the specs of the box?
QUESTIONS 101.

if you stop and think about it, it's hardly neccesary -- ideal to know yes, but not critical

It's just a personal belief of mine that overclocking isn't really worth it, unless you have a really nice cooling setup, as components tend to die very fast (esp. Hard Drives because of heat) and once you learn all about overclocking then you tend to realize that the benfits are not worth the risk (in air cooled systems) and that you are better off just leaving the system alone. it took me getting my A+ cert to figure this out (I am slow). I can think of only one exception for this, and that is the AMD 2500+ barton core Processor, that thing was amazing, stock cooling could get you 2800+ or 3000+ easy (it was a rad chip). but anyway, I just think this guy doesn't really know what he is getting into since he expects to see 1GHz increases without any affect on the system under air cooling.

**Praetor** · 10-14-2005, 06:56 AM

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AMD 2500+ barton core Processor, that thing was amazing, stock cooling could get you 2800+ or 3000+ easy (it was a rad chip).

Well 2500-->2800 represents a 200Mhz OC and 2500-->3000 is a 300MHz ... decent OCs but nothing spectacular.

10-13-2005, 01:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Don't Hack!!! Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 459	i got 1.5 gigs of ram or do you mean the speed of the ram.. Okay those temps are hot... so then when i get a 6800gt i heard they easily oc to 6800 ultra specs so i should just buy a 6800gt. I will buy thermal paste and a new heatsink/fan with that. what do you mean by vdimm... __________________ (\/).o.O.(/\) This is The Crab. Copy this into your signature to help him dominate other animals (Especially the Bunnies). Last edited by Don't Hack!!!; 10-14-2005 at 01:25 AM.

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