Weirdest Windows Problems. Help.

shenry84 · 11-08-2005, 04:45 PM

Hi. Anyone figure this? Certain keys on my keyboard will stop functioning, like Enter or the Period, then will function again. The same thing happens with my mouse. It will gradually stop responding, then, either after leaving the pc idle for a while or rebooting, will respond again. Most often it requires a reboot, but this doesn't always help.

Also I notice sometimes programs (not adware) will pop up erratically (I'm using WinXP), norton security and antivirus will be disabled upon startup. Actually, by programs I mean start menu and folders popping up, not actual programs, though the Task manager does seem to contain more system owned processes than I'm accustomed to seeing.

I booted from a Lunix install cd (Fedora 4, with the nice gui), and the mouse was not detected. The usb mouse was not detected either.

Back to windows, I had to reset the CMOS using the jumper on the mainboard at one point, because the machine would not boot, or I would get a blue screen doing a memory dump. After the CMOS reset though, everything is fine except for all of the above -- mouse behaving schitzophrenically as is the keyboard, as doe windows (start menu will pop open, folders will open or close, etc. Very hard to explain).

Any ideas? I'd say hardware (since linux didn't recognize mouse either, and since I've done all sorts of windows scans and reinstalled windows too).

Could a defective memory or motherboard be causing this?

Fuzz · 11-08-2005, 04:55 PM

Maybe somthing screwy with your usb ports?

lee101 · 11-08-2005, 05:09 PM

Are they wireless? if so try replacing the batterys, if that doesn't work try resetting the receiver and keyboard/mouse (there is usually a button on each, normally you press the one on the receiver then on the k/b or mouse, it shoudl tell you in the instruction manual) Also try them in different ports, as Fuzz said,
Lee

shenry84 · 11-08-2005, 09:39 PM

Can defective hardware produce the effects I described earlier?

I have no reset switches; they are standard, cheap, mouse and keyboard -- ps/1, ps/2. It is a desktop PC running windows XP.

The usb printer seems to work fine, but the usb mouse doesn't at all. It's optical and the light doesn't go on. The regular PS/2 mouse doesn't work all the time, but it's been behaving today so far.

So, there seems to be something affecting the input devices regardless of chosen method of connection. I'm pretty sure it's not windows.

I Resetted all the motherboard features, though I can't find any bios flashes. However, why would I need one? There have been no issues like this for the year I've owned it, so out of the blue and after no particularly drastic software and no hardware changes, I don't think I'd need to flash the bios.

It seems like hardware. Anyone have an idead of which component could be causing such erratic behavior with the input devices? Mainboard, cpu, memory, perhaps ???

StrangleHold · 11-08-2005, 11:16 PM

Since your USB printer works fine I dont think your having a USB problem, Think you might just have a bad optical mouse and a keyboard just starting to go out

BrandonL · 11-09-2005, 01:07 AM

i hate using mouses that have the ball in them... they collect dust so fast and it pisses me off

that's why i got an optical mouse

justin3 · 11-09-2005, 03:03 AM

It seem like first windows is somewhat corrupt, because of that Norton Problem, 2nd for you Mouse and Keyboard you might have a problem with the USB controlers on the motherboard. Try getting a Adaptec USB/Firewire PCI card.

BrandonL · 11-09-2005, 05:04 PM

are you sayin that the motherboard has a bad/no connection with the mouse and keyboard ports? do you think it could be a dust problem... i've heard that too much dust could do things to your system

shenry84 · 11-10-2005, 12:55 PM

I don't think it's the keyboard or mouse. Neither are optical; it was my laptops optical mouse that I tested on the desktop. I've had keyboards and mice (ps/1, ps/2), last for ages, and these are both relatively new. I think maybe it is the motherboard, because the printer doesn't make the noises it usually does on startup.

I don't know. Can any defective components cause windows to act strangely, such as memory? If not, it must be the mainboard.

BrandonL · 11-10-2005, 03:44 PM

point in case...

so... what are you going to do about the motherboard? are you going to try and solve the problem or replace the whole thing altogether?

11-08-2005, 04:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
shenry84 New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	Weirdest Windows Problems. Help. Hi. Anyone figure this? Certain keys on my keyboard will stop functioning, like Enter or the Period, then will function again. The same thing happens with my mouse. It will gradually stop responding, then, either after leaving the pc idle for a while or rebooting, will respond again. Most often it requires a reboot, but this doesn't always help. Also I notice sometimes programs (not adware) will pop up erratically (I'm using WinXP), norton security and antivirus will be disabled upon startup. Actually, by programs I mean start menu and folders popping up, not actual programs, though the Task manager does seem to contain more system owned processes than I'm accustomed to seeing. I booted from a Lunix install cd (Fedora 4, with the nice gui), and the mouse was not detected. The usb mouse was not detected either. Back to windows, I had to reset the CMOS using the jumper on the mainboard at one point, because the machine would not boot, or I would get a blue screen doing a memory dump. After the CMOS reset though, everything is fine except for all of the above -- mouse behaving schitzophrenically as is the keyboard, as doe windows (start menu will pop open, folders will open or close, etc. Very hard to explain). Any ideas? I'd say hardware (since linux didn't recognize mouse either, and since I've done all sorts of windows scans and reinstalled windows too). Could a defective memory or motherboard be causing this?

11-08-2005, 04:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
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11-08-2005, 05:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
lee101 VIP Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: UK Age: 17 Posts: 1,150	Are they wireless? if so try replacing the batterys, if that doesn't work try resetting the receiver and keyboard/mouse (there is usually a button on each, normally you press the one on the receiver then on the k/b or mouse, it shoudl tell you in the instruction manual) Also try them in different ports, as Fuzz said, Lee __________________ My PC: Core2Duo E6300 @ 1.86 Ghz, Asus P5v-VM DH , 200 GB Maxtor SATA ,2GB (21GB Kingston DDRII), Radeon x1650 Graphics (256 mb), 2 Acer 17 inch TFT's, Windows Vista Home Premium Server: AMD Athlon XP 2800+ 256 Mb Ram, 8Gb IDE for o/s, 2 * 250GB SATAII for storage, Ubuntu Server 7.10

11-08-2005, 09:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
shenry84 New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	Weird PC Problems Can defective hardware produce the effects I described earlier? I have no reset switches; they are standard, cheap, mouse and keyboard -- ps/1, ps/2. It is a desktop PC running windows XP. The usb printer seems to work fine, but the usb mouse doesn't at all. It's optical and the light doesn't go on. The regular PS/2 mouse doesn't work all the time, but it's been behaving today so far. So, there seems to be something affecting the input devices regardless of chosen method of connection. I'm pretty sure it's not windows. I Resetted all the motherboard features, though I can't find any bios flashes. However, why would I need one? There have been no issues like this for the year I've owned it, so out of the blue and after no particularly drastic software and no hardware changes, I don't think I'd need to flash the bios. It seems like hardware. Anyone have an idead of which component could be causing such erratic behavior with the input devices? Mainboard, cpu, memory, perhaps ???

11-09-2005, 01:07 AM	#6 (permalink)
BrandonL Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York Age: 19 Posts: 334	i hate using mouses that have the ball in them... they collect dust so fast and it pisses me off that's why i got an optical mouse __________________ eMachines Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG EIDE Ultra ATA/100 Interface DVD±RW Optics Drive Integrated Graphics Realtek AC97 Audio DDR Memory 760MB RAM

11-08-2005, 11:16 PM	#5 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a realm of unknown Wonders Posts: 7,219	Since your USB printer works fine I dont think your having a USB problem, Think you might just have a bad optical mouse and a keyboard just starting to go out

11-09-2005, 03:03 AM	#7 (permalink)
justin3 Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Shelton, CT USA Age: 15 Posts: 57	It seem like first windows is somewhat corrupt, because of that Norton Problem, 2nd for you Mouse and Keyboard you might have a problem with the USB controlers on the motherboard. Try getting a Adaptec USB/Firewire PCI card. __________________ Sunbeamtech transformer full tower case. Core 2 duo E6550 LGA755 MSI P6N sli platinum Evga Geforce 8600gtx Thermaltake Tough power 650watt 2GB DDR2 800 super talent RAM Realtek HD audio Windows MCE 2005

11-09-2005, 05:04 PM	#8 (permalink)
BrandonL Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York Age: 19 Posts: 334	are you sayin that the motherboard has a bad/no connection with the mouse and keyboard ports? do you think it could be a dust problem... i've heard that too much dust could do things to your system __________________ eMachines Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG EIDE Ultra ATA/100 Interface DVD±RW Optics Drive Integrated Graphics Realtek AC97 Audio DDR Memory 760MB RAM

11-10-2005, 12:55 PM	#9 (permalink)
shenry84 New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	I don't think it's the keyboard or mouse. Neither are optical; it was my laptops optical mouse that I tested on the desktop. I've had keyboards and mice (ps/1, ps/2), last for ages, and these are both relatively new. I think maybe it is the motherboard, because the printer doesn't make the noises it usually does on startup. I don't know. Can any defective components cause windows to act strangely, such as memory? If not, it must be the mainboard.

11-10-2005, 03:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
BrandonL Gold Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: New York Age: 19 Posts: 334	point in case... so... what are you going to do about the motherboard? are you going to try and solve the problem or replace the whole thing altogether? __________________ eMachines Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.66GHz Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG EIDE Ultra ATA/100 Interface DVD±RW Optics Drive Integrated Graphics Realtek AC97 Audio DDR Memory 760MB RAM

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