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Nothing · 11-11-2005, 09:27 PM

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**apj101** · 11-11-2005, 09:36 PM

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i was wondering how to encrypt my wireless net..and why when im logged onto the c omputer that has the wireless internet usb in it, then the other computer with the modem on it is logged into that site to!??!? and yeah..encrpting would be nice..insted of an unsecure network.

Encypting wil be essentail, and instruction should have been included with your wireless router, if you read them

What router is it?

skidude · 11-11-2005, 09:37 PM

Usually the encypter is in the software that came with the router.

Lordmord · 11-11-2005, 10:24 PM

I have a wireless internet connection. I asked my ISP for encryption, and they provide it for me, with of course a payment. (paid something $20 CDN)

Hakka · 11-11-2005, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by apj101

Encypting wil be essentail, and instruction should have been included with your wireless router, if you read them

What router is it?

says who might I ask? I have run a wireless setup for more than five years and never had any problems, explain essential please?

does essential mean cant share files or cant browse the web? does essential mean cant play online games?

apj101 do you live in a neighbourhood full of hackers? and if you did and they wanted to break in and they were good would your encrypting stop them?

essesntial is wrong, wireless networks can exist (like many do) with out it.

Im not an expert but I would guess that encryption reduces speed in some way and if you feel safe then you dont need it

**apj101** · 11-11-2005, 10:34 PM

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I asked my ISP for encryption, and they provide it for me, with of course a payment. (paid something $20 CDN)

What? I think you missed the point, and invented a non commercially available product at the same time.

shupola · 11-11-2005, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Hakka

says who might I ask? I have run a wireless setup for more than five years and never had any problems, explain essential please?

does essential mean cant share files or cant browse the web? does essential mean cant play online games?

apj101 do you live in a neighbourhood full of hackers? and if you did and they wanted to break in and they were good would your encrypting stop them?

essesntial is wrong, wireless networks can exist (like many do) with it.

Im not an expert but I would guess that encryption reduces speed in some way and if you feel safe then you dont need it

does anyone find it ironic that his name is Hakka? lol

skidude · 11-11-2005, 10:35 PM

I dont have an encryption on my PC but thats since I live in a remote area where the only people who can pcik up my wireless signal are the ones in my house. Now, if you live in a city or in a close-together neighborhood then I would get encyption, but if you live in a rural area like I do it isnt nesescary.

**apj101** · 11-11-2005, 10:46 PM

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says who might I ask? I have run a wireless setup for more than five years and never had any problems, explain essential please?

es·sen·tial (ĭ-sĕn'shəl) pronunciation
adj.

1. Constituting or being part of the essence of something; inherent.
2. Basic or indispensable; necessary: essential ingredients. See synonyms at indispensable.
3. Medicine. Of, relating to, or being a dysfunctional condition or a disease whose cause is unknown: essential hypertension.
4. Biochemistry. Being a substance that is required for normal functioning but cannot be synthesized by the body and therefore must be included in the diet: essential amino acids.

n.

1. Something fundamental.
2. Something necessary or indispensable.

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does essential mean cant share files or cant browse the web? does essential mean cant play online games?

No you can do all those things, its not essential to enable your network to work, nor was that what i said

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apj101 do you live in a neighbourhood full of hackers? and if you did and they wanted to break in and they were good would your encrypting stop them?

Why would they have to be hackers, if you running an open network they could be anyone, kids, moms, even my grandma could connect to an open wireless network if some idiot were to run one in range.

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I have run a wireless setup for more than five years and never had any problems

How would you know if someone was stealing your bandwidth/files/uploading malware. If you not using wep/wpa then i doubt your monitoring your network traffic. Who knows whos on there.

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Im not an expert

Really

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but I would guess that encryption reduces speed in some way and if you feel safe then you dont need it

Yes it does reduce speed, but not significantly. You would notice it on large file transfer over 300-500MB, probably a few second extra. You will not notice when browsing the internet, as your internet connection is by far the limiting factor

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and if you did and they wanted to break in and they were good would your encrypting stop them?

Well in my case they would need to bypass the wpa, then mask there MAC address, then find an available IP from the very narrow range with no DCHP, then bypass my admin password. I would say by the time someone has got past stage 2 they are good enough to go all the way. Oh and i monitor my traffic all the time, so as soon as i see them i would kick them off.

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essesntial is wrong, wireless networks can exist (like many do) with it.

Essential for operation... no
essential for security... definatly

Without encryption people could be
stealing your bandwidth
Stealing your files
infecting your machine
placing keylogger, and collecting bank/online banking/credit detail
steal your email access and read sensitive emails
In fact depending on your job you will have a liability to keep your machine as secure as possible if you maintain "work" data online, i know i do for my clients

There is so much more i could say, but i feel i'm wasting synovial fluid on you

Nothing · 11-11-2005, 10:52 PM

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skidude Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Orono, Maine Age: 19 Posts: 4,988	I dont have an encryption on my PC but thats since I live in a remote area where the only people who can pcik up my wireless signal are the ones in my house. Now, if you live in a city or in a close-together neighborhood then I would get encyption, but if you live in a rural area like I do it isnt nesescary. __________________ Desktop / Laptop CPU- TBA / Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 2.8 GHz Video- TBA / 2x 8800M GTX SLI Memory- TBA / 4GB DDR2800 Hard Drives- TBA / 2x 320GB 5400RPM (RAID 0) Mobo- TBA / Sager NP9262 "In These Lowly Halls / No Moon Will Beam, No Sun Will Shine / In These Narrow Rooms / No Tears Are Seen, No Laughter Heard" --- Insomnium ---

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Lordmord Silver Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 175	I have a wireless internet connection. I asked my ISP for encryption, and they provide it for me, with of course a payment. (paid something $20 CDN)