I want to upgrade my CPU but don't know anything about old mobos

davie23223 · 12-04-2005, 12:21 AM

I was wondering what is the max mhz i can upgrade to from a Pentium III 450mhz and what kind i need.

System info:

Field Value
Motherboard Properties
Motherboard ID <DMI>
Motherboard Name IBM 66M2

Front Side Bus Properties
Bus Type Intel GTL+
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz
Effective Clock 100 MHz
Bandwidth 800 MB/s

Memory Bus Properties
Bus Type SDR SDRAM
Bus Width 64-bit
Real Clock 100 MHz
Effective Clock 100 MHz
Bandwidth 800 MB/s

Field Value
CPU Properties
CPU Type Intel Pentium III, 450 MHz (4.5 x 100)
CPU Alias Katmai, A80525
CPU Stepping kC0
Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE
Original Clock 450 MHz
L1 Code Cache 16 KB
L1 Data Cache 16 KB
L2 Cache 512 KB (Built-In, Half-Speed)

CPU Physical Info
Package Type 242 Contact SEC Cartridge
Package Size 12.82 cm x 6.28 cm x 1.64 cm
Transistors 9.5 million
Process Technology 5M, 0.25 um, CMOS
Die Size 128 mm2
Core Voltage 2.00 V / 2.05 V
I/O Voltage 3.3 V
Typical Power 17 - 23 W (depending on clock speed)
Maximum Power 25.3 - 34.5 W (depending on clock speed)

CPU Manufacturer
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm

CPU Utilization
CPU #1 0 %

Field Value
North Bridge Properties
North Bridge Intel 82443BX/ZX
Revision / Stepping 03 / C1
Package Type 492 Pin BGA
Package Size 3.5 cm x 3.5 cm
Core Voltage 3.3 V
In-Order Queue Depth 4

Memory Timings
CAS Latency (CL) 3T
RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 2T
RAS Precharge (tRP) 2T

Memory Slots
DRAM Slot #1 128 MB (SDRAM)
DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM)

AGP Controller
AGP Version 1.00
AGP Status Enabled
AGP Device Pine Tech. GeForce4 MX 440
AGP Aperture Size 64 MB
Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x
Current AGP Speed 2x
Fast-Write Not Supported
Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled

Chipset Manufacturer
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm

Field Value
South Bridge Properties
South Bridge Intel 82371EB PIIX4E
Revision / Stepping 02 / A0
Package Type 324 Pin mBGA
Package Size 2.7 cm x 2.7 cm
Core Voltage 3.3 V

Chipset Manufacturer
Company Name Intel Corporation
Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm
Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm

dannyjebb · 12-04-2005, 12:45 AM

do you know what cpu socket your motherboard uses?

davie23223 · 12-04-2005, 01:01 AM

I think Slot 1

OS Dragon · 12-04-2005, 02:50 PM

I'm thinking between 1.8 Ghz (recommended) to 2.4Ghz very max. What do you use the computer for? You should buy the CPU according to the type of usage you what from it.

**The_Other_One** · 12-04-2005, 04:27 PM

1.8 to 2.4 O.O I SERIOUSLY doubt that's possible... OK, to give you real info, I really need you to run something like CPUz so I can get some actual specs on your board. Chipset and possibly mobo model.

With what I know, I'm afriad you're quite limited. There's a limit to certain speed processors the mobo can handle. Hell I probably have a newer 'old' machine(socketA, AGP4x, etc etc) that can only go up to 1.4GHz.

Now you can get what's called a Slocket(convertes Slot1 to socket 370) but you're still limited by your motherboard...

A board that age, it's probaly about time to just upgrade it.

davie23223 · 12-04-2005, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Now you can get what's called a Slocket(convertes Slot1 to socket 370) but you're still limited by your motherboard...

I really need to know about this!

davie23223 · 12-04-2005, 08:34 PM

er, cpuz pics are here http://www.fotothing.com/gf6600

I need to know what I need to look for when im looking for Pentium 3 processors, I found this site with all the Pentium 3 processors

http://processorfinder.intel.com/scr...ALL&CorSpd=ALL

I think mine is the last one on the list, wayyyyy at the bottom

What do i need to look for? sSpec#, CPU Speed, Bus Speed, Mfg. Tech, Stepping, Cache Size, Package Type

I know for sure about the bus speed, but I have no idea with the rest, and also know the slot 1 and socket 370 difference. What is SECC2 and S.E.C.C.2, aren't they both the same?

12-04-2005, 12:21 AM	#1 (permalink)
davie23223 Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 367	I want to upgrade my CPU but don't know anything about old mobos I was wondering what is the max mhz i can upgrade to from a Pentium III 450mhz and what kind i need. System info: Field Value Motherboard Properties Motherboard ID <DMI> Motherboard Name IBM 66M2 Front Side Bus Properties Bus Type Intel GTL+ Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz Effective Clock 100 MHz Bandwidth 800 MB/s Memory Bus Properties Bus Type SDR SDRAM Bus Width 64-bit Real Clock 100 MHz Effective Clock 100 MHz Bandwidth 800 MB/s Field Value CPU Properties CPU Type Intel Pentium III, 450 MHz (4.5 x 100) CPU Alias Katmai, A80525 CPU Stepping kC0 Instruction Set x86, MMX, SSE Original Clock 450 MHz L1 Code Cache 16 KB L1 Data Cache 16 KB L2 Cache 512 KB (Built-In, Half-Speed) CPU Physical Info Package Type 242 Contact SEC Cartridge Package Size 12.82 cm x 6.28 cm x 1.64 cm Transistors 9.5 million Process Technology 5M, 0.25 um, CMOS Die Size 128 mm2 Core Voltage 2.00 V / 2.05 V I/O Voltage 3.3 V Typical Power 17 - 23 W (depending on clock speed) Maximum Power 25.3 - 34.5 W (depending on clock speed) CPU Manufacturer Company Name Intel Corporation Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/processor.htm CPU Utilization CPU #1 0 % Field Value North Bridge Properties North Bridge Intel 82443BX/ZX Revision / Stepping 03 / C1 Package Type 492 Pin BGA Package Size 3.5 cm x 3.5 cm Core Voltage 3.3 V In-Order Queue Depth 4 Memory Timings CAS Latency (CL) 3T RAS To CAS Delay (tRCD) 2T RAS Precharge (tRP) 2T Memory Slots DRAM Slot #1 128 MB (SDRAM) DRAM Slot #2 128 MB (SDRAM) AGP Controller AGP Version 1.00 AGP Status Enabled AGP Device Pine Tech. GeForce4 MX 440 AGP Aperture Size 64 MB Supported AGP Speeds 1x, 2x Current AGP Speed 2x Fast-Write Not Supported Side Band Addressing Supported, Disabled Chipset Manufacturer Company Name Intel Corporation Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm Field Value South Bridge Properties South Bridge Intel 82371EB PIIX4E Revision / Stepping 02 / A0 Package Type 324 Pin mBGA Package Size 2.7 cm x 2.7 cm Core Voltage 3.3 V Chipset Manufacturer Company Name Intel Corporation Product Information http://www.intel.com/products/browse/chipsets.htm Driver Download http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/index.htm __________________ ----------Desktop--------\|--------Gaming Desktop----------\|----------Laptop---------- AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz \| AMD Athlon 64 3800+ \| Toshiba Intel Centrino Duo T2050 1.6GHz 768mb SDram (PC-133) \| 1GB DDR (PC2100) \| 1GB DDR2 (PC2-4300) 40GB 7200RPM HD \| 80GB 7200RPM HD \| 100GB 5400RPM HD ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 128mb \| nVidia XFX 7200 GS 512mb \| Intel GMA 950 128MB (Shared)

12-04-2005, 01:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
davie23223 Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 367	I think Slot 1 __________________ ----------Desktop--------\|--------Gaming Desktop----------\|----------Laptop---------- AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz \| AMD Athlon 64 3800+ \| Toshiba Intel Centrino Duo T2050 1.6GHz 768mb SDram (PC-133) \| 1GB DDR (PC2100) \| 1GB DDR2 (PC2-4300) 40GB 7200RPM HD \| 80GB 7200RPM HD \| 100GB 5400RPM HD ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 128mb \| nVidia XFX 7200 GS 512mb \| Intel GMA 950 128MB (Shared)

12-04-2005, 02:50 PM	#4 (permalink)
OS Dragon Platinum Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manchester Posts: 732	I'm thinking between 1.8 Ghz (recommended) to 2.4Ghz very max. What do you use the computer for? You should buy the CPU according to the type of usage you what from it. __________________ Just Google it... Knowledge Is Power

12-04-2005, 04:27 PM	#5 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,307	1.8 to 2.4 O.O I SERIOUSLY doubt that's possible... OK, to give you real info, I really need you to run something like CPUz so I can get some actual specs on your board. Chipset and possibly mobo model. With what I know, I'm afriad you're quite limited. There's a limit to certain speed processors the mobo can handle. Hell I probably have a newer 'old' machine(socketA, AGP4x, etc etc) that can only go up to 1.4GHz. Now you can get what's called a Slocket(convertes Slot1 to socket 370) but you're still limited by your motherboard... A board that age, it's probaly about time to just upgrade it. __________________ Urban De-Development * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT * C2D T5250 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100 * G4 1.33GHz \| 512M RAM \| 40G HD \| Radeon 9200

12-04-2005, 08:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
davie23223 Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Age: 20 Posts: 367	er, cpuz pics are here http://www.fotothing.com/gf6600 I need to know what I need to look for when im looking for Pentium 3 processors, I found this site with all the Pentium 3 processors http://processorfinder.intel.com/scr...ALL&CorSpd=ALL I think mine is the last one on the list, wayyyyy at the bottom What do i need to look for? sSpec#, CPU Speed, Bus Speed, Mfg. Tech, Stepping, Cache Size, Package Type I know for sure about the bus speed, but I have no idea with the rest, and also know the slot 1 and socket 370 difference. What is SECC2 and S.E.C.C.2, aren't they both the same? __________________ ----------Desktop--------\|--------Gaming Desktop----------\|----------Laptop---------- AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1.4GHz \| AMD Athlon 64 3800+ \| Toshiba Intel Centrino Duo T2050 1.6GHz 768mb SDram (PC-133) \| 1GB DDR (PC2100) \| 1GB DDR2 (PC2-4300) 40GB 7200RPM HD \| 80GB 7200RPM HD \| 100GB 5400RPM HD ATI Radeon 9600 PRO 128mb \| nVidia XFX 7200 GS 512mb \| Intel GMA 950 128MB (Shared) Last edited by davie23223; 12-04-2005 at 08:39 PM.

12-04-2005, 12:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
dannyjebb Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 71	do you know what cpu socket your motherboard uses?

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