P4 650 3.4 or Athlon64 4000 (Building new system)

sucha · 12-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Wondering if someone could kindly give me advice on the advantages of getting one or the other of the following,

AMD Athlon64 4000 San Diego Retail Socket 939 (£250)
Intel Pentium4 650[3.4,RET,775 2MB] (£200)

I'm planning to order a new computer next week, and have been trying to catch up on latest hardware, and have pretty much nailed the CPU to one of these.
Will be using the computer for all sorts of things, and will be playing games too so am making sure its pretty powerful. But no video editing or statistical analysis etc.

Essentially the question is which of the two chips are better? i.e. is the AMD worth the extra £50?

Also I read that the AMD does not support DDR2, does this actually make much difference?

Acutally if you want the 'specialists' here can help me decide on the rest of the stuff too, at the moment I am planning for the graphics card to be,

Club3D GeForce 7800GTX 256MB PCI-E (£352)

But have seen Leadtek WinFast 7800GTX TDH EXTREME 256MB PCI-E (£382), again is this card worth the extra 30? and what does the Extreme mean?

Speakers planning to get Creative I-Trigue 5600 5.1 Speakers (£118) or Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers (£65), depending upon how much i feel like spending in the end.

The question relating to the speakers is that I see that most motherboards come with built in 7.1 sound... does this mean to get nice sounds out of these nice speakers that will be enough? I will be listening to music through these.. or can you really tell the difference with a sound card installed?

If so which of these would do the job (would rather not spen too much on the sound card..)
Creative S/B Audigy SE 7.1 OEM (£18)
Creative Labs SB Audigy 4 7.1 OEM (£43)
Is there much difference?

Could someone also recommend a good motherboard for this setup? (with S-ATA enabled for the HDD and will be putting in about 2GB of RAM)

Lots of questions, please feel free to answer which ever one you want... but main one being the CPU choice.

Many Thanks!

super_xero · 12-06-2005, 06:35 PM

a 4000 is good but soon multthreded games are gona come out and more demanding aplications at the mo i recorn the x2 4200 would be the ideal way to go it costs £290 40 pound extra if you go for it you would be getting two cores better multi threding apps loads more advantages up 2 you

sucha · 12-06-2005, 07:41 PM

what is the current performance difference between the x2 4200 and the 4000?

Flint67 · 12-06-2005, 10:07 PM

The dual core will really show its worth when multitasking.

Dilly man 2 · 12-06-2005, 10:10 PM

and in next years games!

that why i got it. plus its cool to say dual core

[-0MEGA-] · 12-06-2005, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilly man 2

and in next years games!

that why i got it. plus its cool to say duel core

It's actually "Dual", not "Duel", lol.

I'd say get the 4000+.

**tweaker** · 12-06-2005, 10:47 PM

For all around computing and some gaming you'll want to go with the cheapest option. Here you can read it for yourself.

Cpu 101

Dilly man 2 · 12-06-2005, 10:49 PM

....
dont juge me on my speling
im actuly smart!@

More importantly,
i really think the 4200x2 would be a better shot.
trust me, if you game and want to get ahead, get a x2 "4200

"

and wait for those duel core games, then you'll be rocking.

plus you can overclock them to 2.4 with a stock heatsink and fan with no problems what so ever

randruff · 12-06-2005, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dilly man 2

and in next years games!

that why i got it. plus its cool to say duel core

En Garde!!! I challenge you to a duel!!!!

Dilly man 2 · 12-06-2005, 10:55 PM

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12-06-2005, 06:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
sucha New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5	P4 650 3.4 or Athlon64 4000 (Building new system) Wondering if someone could kindly give me advice on the advantages of getting one or the other of the following, AMD Athlon64 4000 San Diego Retail Socket 939 (£250) Intel Pentium4 650[3.4,RET,775 2MB] (£200) I'm planning to order a new computer next week, and have been trying to catch up on latest hardware, and have pretty much nailed the CPU to one of these. Will be using the computer for all sorts of things, and will be playing games too so am making sure its pretty powerful. But no video editing or statistical analysis etc. Essentially the question is which of the two chips are better? i.e. is the AMD worth the extra £50? Also I read that the AMD does not support DDR2, does this actually make much difference? Acutally if you want the 'specialists' here can help me decide on the rest of the stuff too, at the moment I am planning for the graphics card to be, Club3D GeForce 7800GTX 256MB PCI-E (£352) But have seen Leadtek WinFast 7800GTX TDH EXTREME 256MB PCI-E (£382), again is this card worth the extra 30? and what does the Extreme mean? Speakers planning to get Creative I-Trigue 5600 5.1 Speakers (£118) or Creative Inspire T7900 7.1 Speakers (£65), depending upon how much i feel like spending in the end. The question relating to the speakers is that I see that most motherboards come with built in 7.1 sound... does this mean to get nice sounds out of these nice speakers that will be enough? I will be listening to music through these.. or can you really tell the difference with a sound card installed? If so which of these would do the job (would rather not spen too much on the sound card..) Creative S/B Audigy SE 7.1 OEM (£18) Creative Labs SB Audigy 4 7.1 OEM (£43) Is there much difference? Could someone also recommend a good motherboard for this setup? (with S-ATA enabled for the HDD and will be putting in about 2GB of RAM) Lots of questions, please feel free to answer which ever one you want... but main one being the CPU choice. Many Thanks!

12-06-2005, 10:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Dilly man 2 Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grafton, Wisconsin Age: 19 Posts: 461	and in next years games! that why i got it. plus its cool to say dual core __________________ My computer works again! SunBeam Acrillic Case Antec Neo He 550watt Seagate SATA ll 160gig AMD 4200 Duel Core o/c to 2.4gig Nvidia XFX 7800GTX 256mb ABIT AN8-ULTRA Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra OCZ Platinum Performance 2gig Windows XP OEM Turtle Beach 5.1 surround Headset Logitech G-5 lazer Mouse :P :P :P Last edited by Dilly man 2; 12-06-2005 at 10:55 PM.

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12-06-2005, 10:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dilly man 2 Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grafton, Wisconsin Age: 19 Posts: 461	.... dont juge me on my speling im actuly smart!@ More importantly, i really think the 4200x2 would be a better shot. trust me, if you game and want to get ahead, get a x2 "4200 " and wait for those duel core games, then you'll be rocking. plus you can overclock them to 2.4 with a stock heatsink and fan with no problems what so ever __________________ My computer works again! SunBeam Acrillic Case Antec Neo He 550watt Seagate SATA ll 160gig AMD 4200 Duel Core o/c to 2.4gig Nvidia XFX 7800GTX 256mb ABIT AN8-ULTRA Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra OCZ Platinum Performance 2gig Windows XP OEM Turtle Beach 5.1 surround Headset Logitech G-5 lazer Mouse :P :P :P

12-06-2005, 10:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Dilly man 2 Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Grafton, Wisconsin Age: 19 Posts: 461	duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel duel __________________ My computer works again! SunBeam Acrillic Case Antec Neo He 550watt Seagate SATA ll 160gig AMD 4200 Duel Core o/c to 2.4gig Nvidia XFX 7800GTX 256mb ABIT AN8-ULTRA Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra OCZ Platinum Performance 2gig Windows XP OEM Turtle Beach 5.1 surround Headset Logitech G-5 lazer Mouse :P :P :P

12-06-2005, 06:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
super_xero Diamond Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,307	a 4000 is good but soon multthreded games are gona come out and more demanding aplications at the mo i recorn the x2 4200 would be the ideal way to go it costs £290 40 pound extra if you go for it you would be getting two cores better multi threding apps loads more advantages up 2 you

12-06-2005, 07:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
sucha New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5	what is the current performance difference between the x2 4200 and the 4000?

12-06-2005, 10:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
Flint67 Silver Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 100	The dual core will really show its worth when multitasking.

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