Converting AVI/MPEG to DVD

Firefox · 12-19-2005, 11:53 AM

Does anyone know of any freeware or shareware software that will convert AVI and MPEG files to DVD and still be good quality. I have Nero Vision Xpress but it takes 15hrs + to endode a DVD and I only want to put a film on a disc not menus etc etc.

I have had a look at WinAVI but the quality is a bit crappy for what I want

Thanks Guys!!

suprasteve · 12-19-2005, 07:53 PM

this does't fully answer your question, but I believe you can burn mpeg2 files to disk and your dvd player should play them

**Praetor** · 12-27-2005, 02:58 AM

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I have Nero Vision Xpress but it takes 15hrs + to endode a DVD and I only want to put a film on a disc not menus etc etc.

Nero is crap

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this does't fully answer your question, but I believe you can burn mpeg2 files to disk and your dvd player should play them

Software DVD player will, hardware dvd player depends on the model

To answer the question
1. TMPGEnc free edition
2. Fly through the wizard to make a DVD selecting NTSC/PAL as needed
3. Output the elementary streams. This will output MP2/WAV and M2V files
4. You can hack your way around IFOEdit and stuff which is free ... i prefer using something like DVD lab to author the DVD. This will output your VOB files
5. Use any burning program that accepts VOBS for VideoDVD and burn away

hometheaterman · 12-28-2005, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Praetor

1. TMPGEnc free edition

Thats what I was going to reccomend although doesn't the free edition only convert it to mpeg2 for 15 days or maybe it's 30 then if you still want to do it you have to buy the full version?

fade2green514 · 12-28-2005, 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Praetor

Nero is crap

nero isnt crap, i use it all the time. this is evidence of fanboyism

i just encoded two 700mb (or so) divx files onto a dvd in less than an hour using nero.
ahh... athlon xp 2400+... id say thats part of the reason its going slow.
my athlon 64 3400+ would convert a video in about an hour, 2 videos in about 2hrs... obviously
the ram might be bottlenecking it as well, i know my nero uses a ton of ram when its encoding... helps it run very stable though... to burn a simple dvd image used like 320mb of ram. how fast is your ram? that could be slowing it down as well.

pedex · 12-28-2005, 05:20 PM

go here:
http://www.videohelp.com

under the tools/encoders section grab a copy of guiffmpeg and a copy of either dvdstyler or dvdauthorgui and have at it

**Praetor** · 12-29-2005, 02:06 PM

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Thats what I was going to reccomend although doesn't the free edition only convert it to mpeg2 for 15 days or maybe it's 30 then if you still want to do it you have to buy the full version?

I dont know what the limitations of the free version are (i thought it was just performance) ... regardless it should take less than 15 days to encode

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nero isnt crap, i use it all the time. this is evidence of fanboyism

You obviously dont know the first thing about Nero's encoding engine. With maybe 10TB of encoded footage under my belt Im more than qualified to make that claim -- having done work over at CD-RW.org and Afterdawn.com I've seen countless occasions of people having problems with the ever so classic problem of "upside down encode" as well as out of synch issues. Not to flame but... you fool: just take a look at the featureset Nero's encoder has to offer and compare it to the baseline of TMPGEnc and CCE.

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i just encoded two 700mb (or so) divx files onto a dvd in less than an hour using nero.
ahh... athlon xp 2400+... id say thats part of the reason its going slow.
my athlon 64 3400+ would convert a video in about an hour, 2 videos in about 2hrs... obviously

1. What specs where the original source files? How about the output M2V/MP2/WAV files?
2. 1hr is average -- for a single pass encode -- try the more standard 8-pass VBR

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the ram might be bottlenecking it as well, i know my nero uses a ton of ram when its encoding... helps it run very stable though... to burn a simple dvd image used like 320mb of ram. how fast is your ram? that could be slowing it down as well.

- Ufortunately you're talking trash here. If you goto the options, Nero limits you (unfortunately) to 80MB. As for my ram, it's faster than yours so I dont have to worry and furthermore, anyone who knows a damn thing about optical drives and media burning knows better than to burn fast.
- As for burning, what media do you use? (and no i dont mean Sony, Verbatim, Maxell ... i mean ATIP). On what burner?

While my standards for burning and encoding might be considered way-the-hell-extreme, I find it humorous that a noob like yourself (possibly not to computing in general but at least and definitvely this optical media and video) fails to realize that a "cute pretty interface" isnt going to let you get down and dirty with the encoder settings!

So when you make the fanboy call be sure you know for a fact the target is a fanboy and not a pro.

For future reference, in this section of the forum there are maybe *counts* 4 members on this forum who match the amount of experience I have (if there's more, they've not been made apparent to me)

Sophocles · 01-26-2006, 02:05 AM

Oops!

Sophocles · 01-26-2006, 02:08 AM

Nero recode is crap, it's DVD Shrink re-packaged but ok for quick and dirty backups. Tmpgenc has a trial for the commercial version which might be 15 to 30 days but I don't use it much anymore. When you convert any avi/divx/xvid/ video file back to mpeg2 DVD compliant you're are not going to get the picture quality that the original had. Video compression doesn't just squeeze things into smaller packages like winzip does zip files, it removes entire frames and lowers the bitrate to a point where action scenes show serious artifacts such as macro blocking and mosquito effect.

That being said I used to encode Divx on my old P3 in about 7 hours, on my P4 less than two hours. On my current machine in 30 minutes or less. I can run Nero recode(DVD shrink in disguise) in high quality settings in about 8 minutes not including burning, but I only use them to demonstrate how poor their quality is compared to a good encoder. If you're doing any kind of encoding/decoding and it takes more than 3 hours than you need to check your hardware into a geriatrics ward. Now for an answer on easy avi conversion to DVD. Try DVDSanta, that's what it does best and it even creates chapters too. Nothing is easier to use and it does a pretty good job and you don't have to learn avisynth script. It has a full 30 day free trial. BTW it usually takes less than 45 minutes to complete a job and it does several formats. But I still don't know why one would want to convert a highly compressed movie into a mess that's not as good as VHS was.

Please Note that encoding is CPU intensive which means that the quality of or amount of RAM plays only a minor part except where it facilitates over clocking the CPU.

icemakr · 01-29-2006, 05:14 AM

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12-19-2005, 11:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
Firefox Bronze Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Plant Earth (mostly) Age: 26 Posts: 52	Converting AVI/MPEG to DVD Does anyone know of any freeware or shareware software that will convert AVI and MPEG files to DVD and still be good quality. I have Nero Vision Xpress but it takes 15hrs + to endode a DVD and I only want to put a film on a disc not menus etc etc. I have had a look at WinAVI but the quality is a bit crappy for what I want Thanks Guys!!

01-26-2006, 02:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
Sophocles VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 165	Oops! Last edited by Sophocles; 01-26-2006 at 02:43 AM.

01-26-2006, 02:08 AM	#9 (permalink)
Sophocles VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 165	Nero recode is crap, it's DVD Shrink re-packaged but ok for quick and dirty backups. Tmpgenc has a trial for the commercial version which might be 15 to 30 days but I don't use it much anymore. When you convert any avi/divx/xvid/ video file back to mpeg2 DVD compliant you're are not going to get the picture quality that the original had. Video compression doesn't just squeeze things into smaller packages like winzip does zip files, it removes entire frames and lowers the bitrate to a point where action scenes show serious artifacts such as macro blocking and mosquito effect. That being said I used to encode Divx on my old P3 in about 7 hours, on my P4 less than two hours. On my current machine in 30 minutes or less. I can run Nero recode(DVD shrink in disguise) in high quality settings in about 8 minutes not including burning, but I only use them to demonstrate how poor their quality is compared to a good encoder. If you're doing any kind of encoding/decoding and it takes more than 3 hours than you need to check your hardware into a geriatrics ward. Now for an answer on easy avi conversion to DVD. Try DVDSanta, that's what it does best and it even creates chapters too. Nothing is easier to use and it does a pretty good job and you don't have to learn avisynth script. It has a full 30 day free trial. BTW it usually takes less than 45 minutes to complete a job and it does several formats. But I still don't know why one would want to convert a highly compressed movie into a mess that's not as good as VHS was. Please Note that encoding is CPU intensive which means that the quality of or amount of RAM plays only a minor part except where it facilitates over clocking the CPU. Last edited by Sophocles; 01-28-2006 at 06:19 PM.

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12-19-2005, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
suprasteve Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,355	this does't fully answer your question, but I believe you can burn mpeg2 files to disk and your dvd player should play them

12-28-2005, 05:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
pedex Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 47	go here: http://www.videohelp.com under the tools/encoders section grab a copy of guiffmpeg and a copy of either dvdstyler or dvdauthorgui and have at it