plz help a first time builder out...

hiijackz0r · 12-21-2005, 07:55 PM

hey everybody, i was just wondering if some of you guys would critique my set up for a gaming computer im putting together this winter break... id like to know things such as... what should i add/remove? are the parts compatible? ... are their better yet equally priced substitutes?.. or anything you consider note worthy.. oh and lets not forget that im a noob in every sense of the word...

here is a list of the parts so far:

AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail ($235)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539

ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail ($92)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131569

eVGA Geforce 7800GT 256-P2-N516 Video Card - Retail ($299)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130256

Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM ($136)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144160

CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail ($77)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440

LITE-ON Black IDE Combo Drive Model SOHC-5236V BK RTL - Retail ($30)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106992

LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHW-1635S - OEM ($39)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131419

Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS SB0350 Sound Card - OEM ($70)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102178

Logitech X-530 5.1 Speaker - Retail ($54)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836121118

the grand total comes to about $1033.. without shipping.. fyi, my desired price range is $1000-1200..

So, would this set up meet today's most performance demanding games?

Any advice is much appreciated.

SAD_DC · 12-21-2005, 08:35 PM

hmmm... everything looks nice exept...why do you need 2 disk drives?
why not just get one light-on dvd+/-R...

also why do you need such a expensive hdd which is only 74 G.b??
why not go with this 300G.b one for roughly the same price?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148064

oh..also if your looking for a gameing comp ..whith the money you save get a better mobo?
maybe an8_sli
or dfi lanparty?

bigsaucybob · 12-21-2005, 08:35 PM

looks good. that shuld do pretty well with todays games. but are u sure that 74gb of hard drive space is enough. u might wanna look into a cheap 160gb or 250gb hard drive.

o yea and also are u planning on buying a case to put it all in?

Ctcoyote16 · 12-21-2005, 08:57 PM

Case and power supply

hiijackz0r · 12-21-2005, 09:01 PM

sad_dc, yeah, i guess i dont need two disk drives, i was just copying the pre-built computers at like best buy or compusa... is the mobo i picked out not good enough?.. i have very little knowledge about mobos... i thought this would be a good board because i dont plan on using sli.. should i just get an sli mobo anyway?

bigsaucybob, here is the case i picked out, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119079...

i think 74 gb is sufficient for my needs, i really don't download that much music, and when im done with something i usually just delete it... but im not ruling out the option of a bigger, cheaper hd...

also, would it be wise to throw in a floppy disk drive?

SAD_DC · 12-21-2005, 10:33 PM

well if you get 7800Gt i would NOT suggest that mobo...but hey...thats just me...
oh also if you dont plan on sli you still should think before buying that mobo..

about the H.D.d...you really dont need a 130$$ 74 g.b one when you could just get a 100G.b or 160g.b for alot less...

about the floppy...there only 9 bucks lol..
i suggest get one if your case has that pre built floppy
slot thing....
also they come in handy when you have somthing important on a floppy...

heres some nice mobo ideas...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130484

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136164

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127212

perssonaly i love my an8-sli its only 114 bucks and its very good (quality wize)

you have a monitor???

Mr.Suave · 12-21-2005, 10:53 PM

your still missing a PSU and a monitor if you dont already have that.
i also recommend gettting a bigger HDD and you wont even notice the difference between 10k rpm and 7200rpm.

JFlo · 12-21-2005, 10:54 PM

maybe he wants the 10000 rpm on the 74gb harddrive compared to the 7200 on the ones you suggested? if he doesnt download a lot of music and only plays games he has plenty of space but maybe bying like a cheap 80gb 2nd harddrive wouldnt be a bad idea

JFlo · 12-21-2005, 10:56 PM

sence u got 167 $'s to spare well 120 after shipping maybe get 2 1gb sticks of ram? instead of 2 512's or just a single 1gb stick so you can upgrade later and run 2gb dual channel

edit: should have made 1 post instead of 2 lol

hiijackz0r · 12-21-2005, 11:02 PM

lol.. so this mobo is a no-go? hmm catchy... anyway, why would you NOT suggest this mobo... like is it not powerful (<--excuse my noobiness) enough to be paired with the 7800gt?...

you bring up a good point with the floppy, it is only 9 bucks hah, i can easily find that in between my couch cushions...

and yes i do have a monitor, which is kinda the reason why im building a comp altogether... i walked downstairs one day, saw the monitor and was like 'oh hey, no one is using that... i think ill build a computer for it!'... it was pretty impulsive lol...

12-21-2005, 07:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
hiijackz0r New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	plz help a first time builder out... hey everybody, i was just wondering if some of you guys would critique my set up for a gaming computer im putting together this winter break... id like to know things such as... what should i add/remove? are the parts compatible? ... are their better yet equally priced substitutes?.. or anything you consider note worthy.. oh and lets not forget that im a noob in every sense of the word... here is a list of the parts so far: AMD Athlon 64 3700+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail ($235) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103539 ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail ($92) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131569 eVGA Geforce 7800GT 256-P2-N516 Video Card - Retail ($299) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130256 Western Digital Raptor 74GB 3.5" Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM ($136)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822144160 CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail ($77) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440 LITE-ON Black IDE Combo Drive Model SOHC-5236V BK RTL - Retail ($30) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106992 LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHW-1635S - OEM ($39) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827131419 Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS SB0350 Sound Card - OEM ($70) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102178 Logitech X-530 5.1 Speaker - Retail ($54)http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16836121118 the grand total comes to about $1033.. without shipping.. fyi, my desired price range is $1000-1200.. So, would this set up meet today's most performance demanding games? Any advice is much appreciated.

12-21-2005, 08:35 PM	#2 (permalink)
SAD_DC Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 661	hmmm... everything looks nice exept...why do you need 2 disk drives? why not just get one light-on dvd+/-R... also why do you need such a expensive hdd which is only 74 G.b?? why not go with this 300G.b one for roughly the same price? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148064 oh..also if your looking for a gameing comp ..whith the money you save get a better mobo? maybe an8_sli or dfi lanparty? __________________ CPU:Amd Athlon X2 Dual Core 4200+ (939) 2.20GHz CPU Fan: Zalman CNPS9700 LED MoBo: KN8 SLi 939 R.A.M: OCZ 4x 512 PC3200 DDR 400MHz Video Card: 7950 Gt H.D.D: Maxtor 300gig 7200 rpm H.D.D 2: W.D 500gig 7200 rpm Sound Card: Stock Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 1000 PsU: Aspire 550-Watt Chameleon

12-21-2005, 08:35 PM	#3 (permalink)
bigsaucybob Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: ny Age: 18 Posts: 3,913	looks good. that shuld do pretty well with todays games. but are u sure that 74gb of hard drive space is enough. u might wanna look into a cheap 160gb or 250gb hard drive. o yea and also are u planning on buying a case to put it all in? __________________ Equipt NOW

12-21-2005, 08:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ctcoyote16 Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Too' Oh' 'Tree Posts: 192	Case and power supply __________________ AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester @ 2.5 Ghz XFX Geforce 7800GT 256MB DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) Dual Channel Platinum W.D. Caviar SE16 250GB 7200 RPM 3.0Gb/s HD Antec TRUEPOWERII TPII-550 550W All on a DeLL 2005FPW:P 3DMark03- 16,352 3DMark05- 7,710 3DMark06- 4292

12-21-2005, 10:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
SAD_DC Platinum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 661	well if you get 7800Gt i would NOT suggest that mobo...but hey...thats just me... oh also if you dont plan on sli you still should think before buying that mobo.. about the H.D.d...you really dont need a 130$$ 74 g.b one when you could just get a 100G.b or 160g.b for alot less... about the floppy...there only 9 bucks lol.. i suggest get one if your case has that pre built floppy slot thing.... also they come in handy when you have somthing important on a floppy... heres some nice mobo ideas... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130484 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136164 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127212 perssonaly i love my an8-sli its only 114 bucks and its very good (quality wize) you have a monitor??? __________________ CPU:Amd Athlon X2 Dual Core 4200+ (939) 2.20GHz CPU Fan: Zalman CNPS9700 LED MoBo: KN8 SLi 939 R.A.M: OCZ 4x 512 PC3200 DDR 400MHz Video Card: 7950 Gt H.D.D: Maxtor 300gig 7200 rpm H.D.D 2: W.D 500gig 7200 rpm Sound Card: Stock Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop 1000 PsU: Aspire 550-Watt Chameleon

12-21-2005, 09:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
hiijackz0r New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	sad_dc, yeah, i guess i dont need two disk drives, i was just copying the pre-built computers at like best buy or compusa... is the mobo i picked out not good enough?.. i have very little knowledge about mobos... i thought this would be a good board because i dont plan on using sli.. should i just get an sli mobo anyway? bigsaucybob, here is the case i picked out, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119079... i think 74 gb is sufficient for my needs, i really don't download that much music, and when im done with something i usually just delete it... but im not ruling out the option of a bigger, cheaper hd... also, would it be wise to throw in a floppy disk drive?

12-21-2005, 10:53 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mr.Suave Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 1,373	your still missing a PSU and a monitor if you dont already have that. i also recommend gettting a bigger HDD and you wont even notice the difference between 10k rpm and 7200rpm. __________________ The Comp: CPU--Athlon64 X2 4200+ Manchester @ 2.5!!!:D HDD--WD Caviar 250GB 7200 RPM SATA MB---DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 SLI-DR RAM--OCZ Titanium 2GB (2 x 1GB) GPU--Sapphire ATI Radeon X1900XTX 512mb SPU--Creative Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS PSU--ENERMAX Whisper II 535W all inside a Thermaltake Matrix VX

12-21-2005, 10:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
JFlo Gold Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 19 Posts: 483	maybe he wants the 10000 rpm on the 74gb harddrive compared to the 7200 on the ones you suggested? if he doesnt download a lot of music and only plays games he has plenty of space but maybe bying like a cheap 80gb 2nd harddrive wouldnt be a bad idea Last edited by JFlo; 12-21-2005 at 10:58 PM.

12-21-2005, 10:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
JFlo Gold Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Age: 19 Posts: 483	sence u got 167 $'s to spare well 120 after shipping maybe get 2 1gb sticks of ram? instead of 2 512's or just a single 1gb stick so you can upgrade later and run 2gb dual channel edit: should have made 1 post instead of 2 lol

12-21-2005, 11:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
hiijackz0r New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 11	lol.. so this mobo is a no-go? hmm catchy... anyway, why would you NOT suggest this mobo... like is it not powerful (<--excuse my noobiness) enough to be paired with the 7800gt?... you bring up a good point with the floppy, it is only 9 bucks hah, i can easily find that in between my couch cushions... and yes i do have a monitor, which is kinda the reason why im building a comp altogether... i walked downstairs one day, saw the monitor and was like 'oh hey, no one is using that... i think ill build a computer for it!'... it was pretty impulsive lol...

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