Advice needed on building first comp

rahving · 01-24-2006, 04:56 PM

Ok, this should be my final updated component list, would appreciate what any of you think. Will probably be buying everything around the 10th of February, so I have a little time to ponder yet. Here it is:

cpu - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail

mobo - ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

dvd burner - LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner - Retail

floppy drive - whatever

hdd - Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

memory - Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory - Retail

video card - eVGA e-GeForce 6600 LE PCI Express 256MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out, DVI & VGA Retail

case - Black Antec Solution Super Mid-Tower ATX Case SLK3800B, w/ 400W SmartPower 2.0 PSU, 120mm Fan, USB2.0.

**Praetor** · 01-24-2006, 06:20 PM

1. LiteOn dvdburner isnt anything special
2. Motherboard is crap
3. How much are you paying for it?

rahving · 01-25-2006, 03:58 AM

Price for everything listed above should be exactly $576.30, that's with shipping included.

The lite-on dvd burner I'm not too worried about. As long as it holds up over some time and basically works, I'm fine with it. Not too worried about any special performance/speed out of it.

The mobo is pretty much the only thing I have a tough time deciding on. I'm looking for one around $60-$75 that is reliable, has at least one pci-e slot, DDR 400 ram standard, 1 AGP slot, onboard video, and at least 2 sata connectors.

The problem is, there simply isn't one that has all of that, let alone decent reliability according to reviews. Nothing comes up in a power/advanced search. While the AGP slot isn't necessary, I have an older card now (Geforce 4 MX440) that is AGP...and I would be using for a few weeks' time until I bought the 6600LE. I'm trying to juggle a few mobo options spread out over a few mobos in various combinations, then figuring in their reputations. As of right now its between the Asrock 939Dual-Sata2, Abit UL8 Uli M1689, and the Asus A8N-VM CSM. Saving an extra $30 for a better one I'm out on..I've saved long enough and am getting fidgety

, I've suffered long enough with the 733 Mhz cpu, and if I did that I would rather use it for a better video card anyway.

Like always Praetor, you've given very sound advice, thanks again for everything. I know you're just dying to set me straight here

rahving · 01-26-2006, 05:11 AM

Quick question for you guys/girls. Will a motherboard with Sata2 connectors work with a Sata1 hard drive? Probably a stupid question, but I can't find the answer anywhere.

Btw, one more quick question...will a Micro ATX motherboard fit okay in an Antec mid-tower case? The specs on the case say it supports up to standard ATX motherboards, so I assume so. For any reference needed, the Antec case is the SLK3800B version. Thanks in advance.

gamerman4 · 01-26-2006, 02:06 PM

From my experience, all of the ATX cases I've had supported Micro-ATX. I just recently built a comp from scrap parts and put a micro-ATX mobo into an ATX case and it worked fine, just lots of empty space.

**ceewi1** · 01-27-2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rahving

Quick question for you guys/girls. Will a motherboard with Sata2 connectors work with a Sata1 hard drive?

Yes, they use the same connection.

rahving · 01-29-2006, 04:32 AM

My components for my 1st build -

I'm wondering what extra parts I will need to buy as far as cords, cables, etc, etc, that won't or might not come with the following. Thanks.

cpu - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3200BPBOX - Retail

mobo - ASUS A8N-VM CSM Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

optical drive - LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHW-160P6S - Retail

floppy drive - NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive - OEM

hard drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

memory - Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model KVR400X64C3A/512 - Retail

video card - eVGA 256-P2-N363-TX Geforce 6600LE 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

case/power supply - Black Antec TX640B Mid-Tower ATX Computer Case, w/ 400W PSU

gamerman4 · 01-29-2006, 06:16 AM

A retail PCI-express gfx card SHOULD come with the 6-pin PCI-E power cable, The PSU in the case might have one but thats doubtful. The mobo usually comes with SATA connectors, if not I'm not sure if the HDD will, somethign should. Thats about it as far as things that MIGHT not be included. The things I listed should be included somewhere but wait until you get everything before buying more stuff. IDE cables almost always come with retail mobos, so no worries there...

Also, since I'm too tired to do it right now, I hope you made sure that if the mobo is 24 pin, the PSU in the case is also 24-pin. It's possible to use mismatched power cables but not reommended.

rahving · 01-29-2006, 06:02 PM

Thanks a lot gamerman. As far as the mobo - case connection, the mobo is a 24 pin, and I can't find anything on the Antec case. Even checked their website, it doesn't say.

I had checked this when I first was researching components and everything pointed to Antec cases as being very compatible with many mobos, so I stopped trying to find out the pin connection on them.

gamerman4 · 01-29-2006, 06:29 PM

That PSU is the Antec Smartpower 400, I ahve one of those and mine does have the 24-pin power connector

01-24-2006, 06:20 PM	#22 (permalink)
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01-25-2006, 03:58 AM	#23 (permalink)
rahving Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195	Price for everything listed above should be exactly $576.30, that's with shipping included. The lite-on dvd burner I'm not too worried about. As long as it holds up over some time and basically works, I'm fine with it. Not too worried about any special performance/speed out of it. The mobo is pretty much the only thing I have a tough time deciding on. I'm looking for one around $60-$75 that is reliable, has at least one pci-e slot, DDR 400 ram standard, 1 AGP slot, onboard video, and at least 2 sata connectors. The problem is, there simply isn't one that has all of that, let alone decent reliability according to reviews. Nothing comes up in a power/advanced search. While the AGP slot isn't necessary, I have an older card now (Geforce 4 MX440) that is AGP...and I would be using for a few weeks' time until I bought the 6600LE. I'm trying to juggle a few mobo options spread out over a few mobos in various combinations, then figuring in their reputations. As of right now its between the Asrock 939Dual-Sata2, Abit UL8 Uli M1689, and the Asus A8N-VM CSM. Saving an extra $30 for a better one I'm out on..I've saved long enough and am getting fidgety , I've suffered long enough with the 733 Mhz cpu, and if I did that I would rather use it for a better video card anyway. Like always Praetor, you've given very sound advice, thanks again for everything. I know you're just dying to set me straight here Last edited by rahving; 01-25-2006 at 06:19 PM.

01-26-2006, 05:11 AM	#24 (permalink)
rahving Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195	Have a question Quick question for you guys/girls. Will a motherboard with Sata2 connectors work with a Sata1 hard drive? Probably a stupid question, but I can't find the answer anywhere. Btw, one more quick question...will a Micro ATX motherboard fit okay in an Antec mid-tower case? The specs on the case say it supports up to standard ATX motherboards, so I assume so. For any reference needed, the Antec case is the SLK3800B version. Thanks in advance.

01-26-2006, 02:06 PM	#25 (permalink)
gamerman4 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkansas Age: 18 Posts: 1,326	From my experience, all of the ATX cases I've had supported Micro-ATX. I just recently built a comp from scrap parts and put a micro-ATX mobo into an ATX case and it worked fine, just lots of empty space. __________________ NZXT Nemesis Elite Black Intel Q6600 @ 3.20 Ghz COOLER MASTER RL-EUL-GBU1-GP Watercooling Gigabyte DS3R P965 HDDs: 2 x 80GB 1 x 250GB 1 x 500GB 1x 750GB 2 x 1GB Patriot Extreme Perf. DDR2 nVidia 8800GT 512MB Antec Smartpower 2.0 400 Watt Obama/Biden 08

01-29-2006, 06:16 AM	#28 (permalink)
gamerman4 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkansas Age: 18 Posts: 1,326	A retail PCI-express gfx card SHOULD come with the 6-pin PCI-E power cable, The PSU in the case might have one but thats doubtful. The mobo usually comes with SATA connectors, if not I'm not sure if the HDD will, somethign should. Thats about it as far as things that MIGHT not be included. The things I listed should be included somewhere but wait until you get everything before buying more stuff. IDE cables almost always come with retail mobos, so no worries there... Also, since I'm too tired to do it right now, I hope you made sure that if the mobo is 24 pin, the PSU in the case is also 24-pin. It's possible to use mismatched power cables but not reommended. __________________ NZXT Nemesis Elite Black Intel Q6600 @ 3.20 Ghz COOLER MASTER RL-EUL-GBU1-GP Watercooling Gigabyte DS3R P965 HDDs: 2 x 80GB 1 x 250GB 1 x 500GB 1x 750GB 2 x 1GB Patriot Extreme Perf. DDR2 nVidia 8800GT 512MB Antec Smartpower 2.0 400 Watt Obama/Biden 08

01-24-2006, 04:56 PM	#21 (permalink)
rahving Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195	Ok, this should be my final updated component list, would appreciate what any of you think. Will probably be buying everything around the 10th of February, so I have a little time to ponder yet. Here it is: cpu - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor - Retail mobo - ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail dvd burner - LITE-ON Black 16X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 16X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2M Cache ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner - Retail floppy drive - whatever hdd - Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM memory - Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) System Memory - Retail video card - eVGA e-GeForce 6600 LE PCI Express 256MB DDR Video Card w/TV-Out, DVI & VGA Retail case - Black Antec Solution Super Mid-Tower ATX Case SLK3800B, w/ 400W SmartPower 2.0 PSU, 120mm Fan, USB2.0.

01-29-2006, 04:32 AM	#27 (permalink)
rahving Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195	My components for my 1st build - I'm wondering what extra parts I will need to buy as far as cords, cables, etc, etc, that won't or might not come with the following. Thanks. cpu - AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3200BPBOX - Retail mobo - ASUS A8N-VM CSM Socket 939 NVIDIA GeForce 6150 Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail optical drive - LITE-ON Black ATAPI/E-IDE DVD Burner Model SHW-160P6S - Retail floppy drive - NEC Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive - OEM hard drive - Western Digital Caviar SE WD800JD 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM memory - Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model KVR400X64C3A/512 - Retail video card - eVGA 256-P2-N363-TX Geforce 6600LE 256MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail case/power supply - Black Antec TX640B Mid-Tower ATX Computer Case, w/ 400W PSU

01-29-2006, 06:02 PM	#29 (permalink)
rahving Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 195	Thanks a lot gamerman. As far as the mobo - case connection, the mobo is a 24 pin, and I can't find anything on the Antec case. Even checked their website, it doesn't say. I had checked this when I first was researching components and everything pointed to Antec cases as being very compatible with many mobos, so I stopped trying to find out the pin connection on them.

01-29-2006, 06:29 PM	#30 (permalink)
gamerman4 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkansas Age: 18 Posts: 1,326	That PSU is the Antec Smartpower 400, I ahve one of those and mine does have the 24-pin power connector __________________ NZXT Nemesis Elite Black Intel Q6600 @ 3.20 Ghz COOLER MASTER RL-EUL-GBU1-GP Watercooling Gigabyte DS3R P965 HDDs: 2 x 80GB 1 x 250GB 1 x 500GB 1x 750GB 2 x 1GB Patriot Extreme Perf. DDR2 nVidia 8800GT 512MB Antec Smartpower 2.0 400 Watt Obama/Biden 08

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