is this true? (about opteron 165, dual core)

Charles_Lee · 01-22-2006, 01:57 AM

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=63414
The people on this particular AMD forum, people are saying that opteron 165 is not only better than x2 3800,
but even "better" than fx-60,
which i don't agree to,
but i still want to hear some other ideas from you guys,,,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prof Pwnsworth

The opteron 165 runs at 1.8 ghz, but ive seen it Oced to 2.6Ghz with 1Mb L2 Cache per core. its about 300 and it was Oced with the AMD stock cooler. as long as you get a good mobo for overclocking a sub 300 dual core opteron is the best dualcore in production.

---> now i want to buy a small watercooling kit, along with my motherboard, Asus A8R-MVP ^^;;

-by the way, yesterday i ordered my opteron 165 for $400 can.

mash · 01-22-2006, 04:49 AM

Yes, if you OC you will run much faster than an X2 3800+. I just did my first OC today, just to 2.2GHz because I want to replace my heatsink/fan before I do any big OCing. With water cooling many have gotten 2.5-2.7GHz or so, at safe temps.

ReturnToEmpire · 01-22-2006, 05:23 AM

without water cooling, and with out raising the vcore many people have gotten 2.4 GHz out of their 3800+ X2 processors. i bet you can overclock an X2 just as well as an opteron, if you use the right hardware motherboard being most important.

34erd · 01-22-2006, 05:37 AM

$400 si way too much. You can pick one up for $320 now.

elmarcorulz · 01-22-2006, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 34erd

$400 si way too much. You can pick one up for $320 now.

Bear in mind that its $400 CAD which is about $340 US, which really isnt so bad.

34erd · 01-22-2006, 05:59 PM

Oh, didnt see the can part...

I need to pay closer atention to things before posting

The 165 is not better then an FX-60. Comparing stock processors to overclocked ones is like comparing apples and oranges. (Well not really but you get the point). It will need more volts and run hotter to reach 2.6 Ghz, and if it doesnt, then its reaching the point where more volts does less. The FX-60 also has unlocked multis. And of course, the FX-60 goes 2.6 Ghz out of the box.

MIK3daG33K · 01-22-2006, 07:42 PM

I have a opteron 170 @ 2.6 and it keeps up with the fx-60. . .

**Praetor** · 01-23-2006, 03:06 PM

Quote:

The 165 is not better then an FX-60. Comparing stock processors to overclocked ones is like comparing apples and oranges

1. Both the 165 and the FX60 are, stock.
2. The Opty's got an additional two HT links.. which ... ya know ... cant be a bad thing

Charles_Lee · 01-23-2006, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mash

With water cooling many have gotten 2.5-2.7GHz or so, at safe temps.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReturnToEmpire

without water cooling, ... , if you use the right hardware motherboard being most important.

do i really need water cooling? or do you guys think that good fan would do a good job?
http://www.canadacomputers.com/index...122&cid=FN.349
or...

and, i also want to know if the choice of my motherboard was good or not,
cause i hve not yet payed for my motherboard.

note that i have ati video card please.

ReturnToEmpire · 01-23-2006, 05:21 PM

your motherboard is a beast

lol its a good overclocker and you wont need watercooling, but a nice heatsinkfan such as a thermaltake big typhoon, im sure that a popular one, there are others as well. good luck with your overclocking.

01-22-2006, 04:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
mash Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 73	Yes, if you OC you will run much faster than an X2 3800+. I just did my first OC today, just to 2.2GHz because I want to replace my heatsink/fan before I do any big OCing. With water cooling many have gotten 2.5-2.7GHz or so, at safe temps. __________________ Thermaltake Tsunami (black w/side panel) eVGA Geforce 7800GT AMD Opteron 165 (dual @ 2.3GHz) eVGA nforce4 SLI mobo Western Digital 200GB SATA2 1gb Corsair XMS (2x512mb)

01-22-2006, 05:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
34erd Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 2,842	$400 si way too much. You can pick one up for $320 now. __________________ DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI DR Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1 Gig OCZ VX DDR500 DDR BFG GeForce 7800GT 160 Gig SATA HDD CD-RW DVD-ROM Antec NeoPower 480 Thermaltake Tsunami

01-22-2006, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
34erd Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Age: 15 Posts: 2,842	Oh, didnt see the can part... I need to pay closer atention to things before posting The 165 is not better then an FX-60. Comparing stock processors to overclocked ones is like comparing apples and oranges. (Well not really but you get the point). It will need more volts and run hotter to reach 2.6 Ghz, and if it doesnt, then its reaching the point where more volts does less. The FX-60 also has unlocked multis. And of course, the FX-60 goes 2.6 Ghz out of the box. __________________ DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI DR Athlon 64 3500+ Venice 1 Gig OCZ VX DDR500 DDR BFG GeForce 7800GT 160 Gig SATA HDD CD-RW DVD-ROM Antec NeoPower 480 Thermaltake Tsunami

01-22-2006, 07:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
MIK3daG33K Gold Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Detroit, MI Age: 22 Posts: 477	I have a opteron 170 @ 2.6 and it keeps up with the fx-60. . . __________________ DFI LanParty UT Nforce4 Ultra-D AMD Opteron 170 @ 2700 (1.6 Vcore) w\ Thermaltake Big Typhoon 1 GB of OCZ Gold rev. 2 PC-3200 RAM (2.2.2.5) BFG Geforce 7800 GT (510 \ 1.25) w\ NV Silencer 5 Western Digital 120 / 160 GB SATA 7200 RPM hard drive Antec TruePower 2.0 550 W power supply Samsung SyncMaster 204B 20.1 in. (5 ms) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic Logitech Z-5300e 5.1 Surround Sound

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