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Old 01-28-2006, 12:30 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Why let this guy get everyone annoyed, just let him do whatever he wants with his money, if he breaks his computer, sit back and laugh. He obviously wont break 20k with $5000 because the people that break world records have a LOT more than $5000 to spend and they also have help from various computer companies that get them things like nitrogen and stuff like that. They also know what they are doing, if he knew what he was doing he wouldn't be asking about it in this forum.
He will either:
1. Give up and just get a kickass $5000 system that goes obsolete in a few years.
2. Try it and not get 20k 3dmarks and be happy he got more than most of us in the forum.
3. Somehow gets some LN2 and either goes to the hospital or he just dumped $5000 out the window because his comp broke (probably quite literally)

Also, with 2 X1900XTXs in Crossfire...I think he might be able to get a damn high score and with some overclocking.....who knows, with todays technology 20k could be doable with the right amount of tweaking and more than $5000. Volt-modding a 2 X1900XTXs seems a viable solution to possibly getting 20k though.

Also, why try to break a record with older software? Try to break a record with 3Dmark06 since it is new, it could be easier to get the highest score ever, for at least a little while until someone does some really extreme stuff.
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Old 01-28-2006, 03:40 AM   #42 (permalink)
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i sure will find out from compusa tech shop.
I know some overclockers down there.
No disrecpect intended to CompUSA (never been to one) but from what that sounds like it sounds like a major computer retailer? (correct me if im wrong someone), so i will go on a limb and say two things (pending of course on the validity of my assumption)
  1. Virtually nobody to nobody there will know anything about serious cooling. For the most part, the employee base at these kinds of stores fall into the I-think-I-know-something-about-computers category
  2. Dunno if you were thinking of buying from there but I wouldnt simply based on (what I think to be) limited selection

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Beside the X2 5000+ is clocked at 2.6 GHz and equipped with 1x 1 MB L2 cache. Thats like 2 fx 55.
A few erros
  1. No such thing as a X2-5000
  2. If you were to connect 2xFX55 (which AFAIK u cant since it's missing CHT links) you'd be connecting as a SMP setup rather than a dualcore setup (meaning the 2xFX55 setup would be notibly superior)

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Now i have 5000.00 us dollars to spend. This should be enough to build it to the EXTREME LEVEL
You're kidding right? Have a look at this ... a bigger budget and I still had to skimp out heavily

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have you tryed using a $5000 machine from 4 years ago on today games
Hmm whats that .. a thunderbird?

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in 4 years a single graphic card will proberly be more powerful then x1900 in crossfire.
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its like 2 fx55.....Why not a FX-60 then? thats a dual core fx...
Glad you caught it Again,
- no such thng as 2xFX55
- If there WAS such a thing as SMP-FX55 then it would (on paper at least) be a better setup than a FX60

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I would also like to know where you are going to get your hands on liquid nitrogen.
University, industry

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You're asking CompUSA employees about liquid nitrogen cooling...
let me be the first to bust my gut here.
Haha ok so my assumption was right

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Dude I already have some of the parts for my setup all i need is the x2 5000+ and liquid nitrogen and that 2 more gigs oc'ed to max out. That guy didnt know how to oc his pc. With 5000.00 i can get that setup!!! and past that 3dmark 05 with 20k+. I'll oc the videocards and the processor when i get the liquid nitrogen
1. What parts? Lets get some details
2. Good luck getting the X2-5000
3. Any reason youre getting a dualcore box for 3dMark05?

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that 2 more gigs oc'ed to max out
You do know that the more ram you pack into the box, the less likely you gonna hit the higher OCs right?

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Old 01-28-2006, 03:44 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Praetor, regarding your $8.5K PC, he wouldnt need the X-Fi, Speakers, or 21" monitor. So that would bring it down quite a bit.

Still, dont excpect to get Liquid Nitrogen, and dont expect to beat the world record.
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Praetor, regarding your $8.5K PC, he wouldnt need the X-Fi, Speakers, or 21" monitor. So that would bring it down quite a bit.
Indeed But i still skimped on both the primary and secondary RAID batteries .. but (in reference to my $8.5K box as specd), if anything else, then id mock them for having a totally unbalanced machine
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Old 01-28-2006, 05:46 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Well sence you only plan on using this machine for 30ish minutes and not gonna use it for gaming, how about when you fail to get 20k you give me the computer? I'll be sure to put it to good use.
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Old 01-28-2006, 05:49 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Well sence you only plan on using this machine for 30ish minutes and not gonna use it for gaming, how about when you fail to get 20k you give me the computer? I'll be sure to put it to good use.
Lol, I already made that bet
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Old 01-28-2006, 04:55 PM   #47 (permalink)
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wait, you really ONLY want this PC to try and break 20k? then your gonna go back to your

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$20,000!!!!

wow, and i thought mine was pricey at £5,000

that would have to be some computer



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Old 01-28-2006, 08:20 PM   #49 (permalink)
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ummm...........
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$20,000!!!!

wow, and i thought mine was pricey at £5,000

that would have to be some computer



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$5,000, he wants to break 20,000 in 3Dmark05
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