Encryption Warning:

Hellbreather · 01-26-2006, 02:16 PM

Hey all,
Just a little warning to all you people who like to use encryption, when the events of September the 11th happened the US Government realised that the terriorists were using encryption to send messages to each other (only a caesar cipher not hard to crack) but still, so now all encryption programs that have been released since then have had to have a special back-door put into them where you can bypass the encryption completely!!!!
So if you are encrypting sensitive data can I suggest that you revert back to a version before the events of September the 11th that way there are no back-doors put in and you can encrypt things safely.

I'm using an encryption program that uses 4000bit encryption so if you have a 25 digit password (or key) they predict that it will take the Governments fastest supercomputer at least 10 years to crack it.

atomic · 01-26-2006, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellbreather

Hey all,
Just a little warning to all you people who like to use encryption, when the events of September the 11th happened the US Government realised that the terriorists were using encryption to send messages to each other (only a caesar cipher not hard to crack) but still, so now all encryption programs that have been released since then have had to have a special back-door put into them where you can bypass the encryption completely!!!!
So if you are encrypting sensitive data can I suggest that you revert back to a version before the events of September the 11th that way there are no back-doors put in and you can encrypt things safely.

I'm using an encryption program that uses 4000bit encryption so if you have a 25 digit password (or key) they predict that it will take the Governments fastest supercomputer at least 10 years to crack it.

Isnt that illegal?

Hellbreather · 01-26-2006, 04:01 PM

What having the back-doors

or using 4000bit encryption?

Hellbreather · 01-26-2006, 04:09 PM

Technically, yes this is illegal but the Governments are the ones who make up whats illegal and what isn't. The software developers have actually fought for the right to not put in back-doors, but some lost and some won.

The main point to this thread is that you need to be careful and if you want to be 99.9% your encryption software is back-door free then you should use a version your encryption thats pre-9/11.

**ceewi1** · 01-27-2006, 04:53 AM

Where did you read this? Are you sure it's not a hoax or conspiracy theory without any real evdience? I would have thought that this sort of regulation would just have pushed people to use encryption software designed outside the US.

Veurruckte · 01-27-2006, 07:34 AM

Sounds like another conspiracy theory to me.

If it is true, you could always download non-american encryption programs

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Trizoy · 01-27-2006, 09:01 AM

HellBreather is sending Ecncrypted messages to his GF...
If you have messages you need to encrypt, you a.) should not be sending them over the internet and b.) should not be sending them at all (who you trying to hide from?)

Hellbreather · 01-27-2006, 01:16 PM

Personally mate all I am telling you that I value my privacy, this thread is simply for other people who value it too. Of course people do it and it's doesn't mean you are doing illegal things.

And as for the rest of the posts, it's not just the US that are doing it, it's worldwide companies (not all of them though).

EDIT: OK, I'm not to sure myself now, they say the bill is being voted on but developers and such are such that it will not pass, so I don't know lol

**ceewi1** · 02-09-2006, 02:46 AM

A little update on what we can expect with Windows Vista's encryption:

Quote:

Originally Posted by APC Magazine

Authorities who want to see what's on your laptop won't have any trouble reading your files, despite Vista's tough new hard drive encryption. Microsoft plans to make it easy for law enforcement agencies to read encrypted files - by building a backdoor into the new operating system.

The software giant is dumping Windows' easily cracked Encrypting File System (EFS) in favour of a much tougher version in Vista (tied in with Trusted Platform Module chips on recent-model motherboards).

But Microsoft Australia chief security advisor, Peter Watson, told APC that government agencies had requested the backdoor be built into Windows after observing a Microsoft demonstration of Vista's early security features.

Among the agencies' fears lies the risk that terrorists could use the strong encryption included with Vista to hide attack plans on hard drives until it's too late for the files to be decrypted.

If discovered by the wider tech community, the "law enforcement back door" could be exploited by viruses and other malware, rendering Vista's encryption system worthless.

atomic · 02-09-2006, 03:23 AM

"If discovered by the wider tech community, the "law enforcement back door" could be exploited by viruses and other malware, rendering Vista's encryption system worthless."

More like WHEN it is discovered.

01-26-2006, 02:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hellbreather Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 20 Posts: 736	Encryption Warning: Hey all, Just a little warning to all you people who like to use encryption, when the events of September the 11th happened the US Government realised that the terriorists were using encryption to send messages to each other (only a caesar cipher not hard to crack) but still, so now all encryption programs that have been released since then have had to have a special back-door put into them where you can bypass the encryption completely!!!! So if you are encrypting sensitive data can I suggest that you revert back to a version before the events of September the 11th that way there are no back-doors put in and you can encrypt things safely. I'm using an encryption program that uses 4000bit encryption so if you have a 25 digit password (or key) they predict that it will take the Governments fastest supercomputer at least 10 years to crack it. __________________ There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary code, and those who don't Windows XP Pro Setup Intel Pentium 4 Processor - 3.2Ghz With HT Technology, 1024MB DDR RAM, 200GB SATA HDD, 40GB SATA HDD, Sound Blaster Live! 24 BIT!, Radeon 9800 PRO 256MB, Gigabit Ethernet Card

01-26-2006, 04:01 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hellbreather Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 20 Posts: 736	What having the back-doors or using 4000bit encryption? __________________ There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary code, and those who don't Windows XP Pro Setup Intel Pentium 4 Processor - 3.2Ghz With HT Technology, 1024MB DDR RAM, 200GB SATA HDD, 40GB SATA HDD, Sound Blaster Live! 24 BIT!, Radeon 9800 PRO 256MB, Gigabit Ethernet Card Last edited by Hellbreather; 01-26-2006 at 04:06 PM.

01-26-2006, 04:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hellbreather Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 20 Posts: 736	Technically, yes this is illegal but the Governments are the ones who make up whats illegal and what isn't. The software developers have actually fought for the right to not put in back-doors, but some lost and some won. The main point to this thread is that you need to be careful and if you want to be 99.9% your encryption software is back-door free then you should use a version your encryption thats pre-9/11. __________________ There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary code, and those who don't Windows XP Pro Setup Intel Pentium 4 Processor - 3.2Ghz With HT Technology, 1024MB DDR RAM, 200GB SATA HDD, 40GB SATA HDD, Sound Blaster Live! 24 BIT!, Radeon 9800 PRO 256MB, Gigabit Ethernet Card

01-27-2006, 04:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
ceewi1 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 5,299	Where did you read this? Are you sure it's not a hoax or conspiracy theory without any real evdience? I would have thought that this sort of regulation would just have pushed people to use encryption software designed outside the US. __________________ CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600 / MOBO: Gigabyte 965P-DS3 / GPU: Gigabyte HD4870 RAM: 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK / HDD: 2TB Total HDD / PSU: Antec NeoPower 480W Cheap PSUs - 2% of system costs, responsible for 28% of system deaths As Sealed Stick was removed, lost or damaged, it shall be out of warranty validity. - The "Warranty void if removed" sticker on numerous CoolerMaster PSUs. Useful PSU Guides

01-27-2006, 09:01 AM	#7 (permalink)
Trizoy VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Mountain View, Ca Posts: 4,673	HellBreather is sending Ecncrypted messages to his GF... If you have messages you need to encrypt, you a.) should not be sending them over the internet and b.) should not be sending them at all (who you trying to hide from?) __________________ 01100110 01100001 01110010 01110100

01-27-2006, 07:34 AM	#6 (permalink)
Veurruckte Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 18 Posts: 240	Sounds like another conspiracy theory to me. If it is true, you could always download non-american encryption programs .

01-27-2006, 01:16 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hellbreather Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 20 Posts: 736	Personally mate all I am telling you that I value my privacy, this thread is simply for other people who value it too. Of course people do it and it's doesn't mean you are doing illegal things. And as for the rest of the posts, it's not just the US that are doing it, it's worldwide companies (not all of them though). EDIT: OK, I'm not to sure myself now, they say the bill is being voted on but developers and such are such that it will not pass, so I don't know lol __________________ There are 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary code, and those who don't Windows XP Pro Setup Intel Pentium 4 Processor - 3.2Ghz With HT Technology, 1024MB DDR RAM, 200GB SATA HDD, 40GB SATA HDD, Sound Blaster Live! 24 BIT!, Radeon 9800 PRO 256MB, Gigabit Ethernet Card Last edited by Hellbreather; 01-27-2006 at 01:21 PM.

02-09-2006, 03:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
atomic Platinum Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: United Kingdom Age: 24 Posts: 712	"If discovered by the wider tech community, the "law enforcement back door" could be exploited by viruses and other malware, rendering Vista's encryption system worthless." More like WHEN it is discovered.

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