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Old 01-29-2006, 10:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Turning your computer off by front panel button??

I've heard a lot of opinions about whether it is bad for the computer to turn it off by pressing the button on the front of it. Is this true, or just a myth??
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Old 01-29-2006, 10:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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i wuldnt say its bad, its just unexpected. ur computer will still properly shutdown.
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Old 01-29-2006, 10:40 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It stops processes without sending a kill signal, it can cause errors but I've never experienced one that's been caught on checkdisk directly from turning it off that way. It's worse if you do it in Linux than Windows I've heard.
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Old 01-29-2006, 10:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It's worse if you do it in Linux than Windows I've heard.
Thats generally true, but it depends on which file system you're using. Ext3 is generally pretty stable when compared to Ext2, and fsck has never failed me . Out of all the filesystems currently available, BSD's UFS would probally be my choice.

It really depends on what you mean. Usually if you just tap the button, it will send all processes the term signal, and unmount cleanly. If you hold it down however, it will just kill the circuit.

I wouldn't do it all the time, but if you do it occasionally you should be fine.
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IT you just press it once it is fine, and starts shuting down, its bad if you press and HOLD the button so it does a cold shutdown
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IT you just press it once it is fine, and starts shuting down, its bad if you press and HOLD the button so it does a cold shutdown

I was thinking he meant cold shutdown by holding it. I've never heard anyone say that just pressing it and allowing it to properly shutdown via the button was bad.
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on my computer i can press the button all I want and it doesn't shut down! Neither does ANY of the computers in my house! At my school however I just press the button and it shuts down, but for me to shut down my computer with out shutting it down via start button I have to press and hold. I've heard there really isn't that bad as long as you have everything in your RAM saved.
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on my computer i can press the button all I want and it doesn't shut down! Neither does ANY of the computers in my house! At my school however I just press the button and it shuts down, but for me to shut down my computer with out shutting it down via start button I have to press and hold. I've heard there really isn't that bad as long as you have everything in your RAM saved.
Try reversing the pins its plugged into the mobo.
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With Windows XP and a reasonably modern computer (i.e. ATX power supply) it's fine. It will just signal the computer to turn itself off, which is exactly the same as using Start -> Turn Off. That's assuming you tap the button. Holding it down will kill the power without giving the OS a chance to shut down, which is not a good idea.

With previous operating systems and with AT power supplies, it's not a good idea. It will kill the power without giving the OS a chance to shut down.
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Old 01-30-2006, 01:19 PM   #10 (permalink)
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well with the amnount of times I had to do it with ME, hopefully it wasn't bad for ME to do it...
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