Need help, Im desperate!!

Bundy · 01-30-2006, 07:51 PM

First off let me say hi to all of you out there! just joined the forum and looks like a great place to get info.... Hope to get help and possibly help you guys with a few things here and there....

I don't know what to do with my computer anymore, built it myself and never had an issue until now. I have a amd athlon 3200+ 64, a8v deluxe asus motherboard with 200mhz bus, a nvidia ge force 6600 gt 128 mb ram, 1.5 gig of DDRram and a 80 gig HD. Whenever I run any sort of high media (games, videos for long periods of time etc..) my system will hang up or even restart on itself without warning, would think that it's due to overheating but there is no warning siren coming from the computer to let my know that the chipset is having a heating issue.... any help would be appriciated

Thanks in advance
Bundy

Bundy · 01-30-2006, 07:53 PM

oh yeah I also have latest drivers for video/sound cards and latest service pack for XP just so you folks know

Dngrsone · 01-30-2006, 08:09 PM

Welcome to the forums, Bundy, we're happy you are here.

Try turning off the reboot on error:

System Properties, Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery Settings, uncheck the Automatically restart box.

Let's see what the BSOD gives us.

Does this happen only when operating an optical drive? Or do you think that the programs running when failure occurs are memory-intensive?

I'm thinking that you may have a RAM issue and/or a heating problem, as you suspected. If this only happens when you are using the optical drive, then it may be that drive is overheating and causing the crash. It's also possible that the RAM is getting hot and corrupting data, thereby causing the crash.

Regardless, it might be a good idea to run memtest86+ on all the memory. If you get any failures whatsoever, then you likely have a bad RAM stick.

Bundy · 01-30-2006, 08:25 PM

Thanks for your reply,
guess I should have mentioned my last ditch attempt to get things working since you mentioned my ram getting hot, not aware of running any optical drive so you may need to explain that to me, but I tried to see if it was a heating issue so I took off the case shell and have a $20 wal-mart fan blowing on the motherboard and it does let me go a little further with more labor intensive programs (like F.E.A.R.) I can play for a half-hour/hour as opposed to 5 minutes, so the ram heating up I think may be the issue cause I also have Farcry and when the video settings are low it works for hours but if they're set highest (which is still smooth on the video) it locks and I gotta hard reset or it does it for me, just may need to get a fan set for my ram sticks but I'll also run those diag tools that you gave me

**Praetor** · 01-30-2006, 08:57 PM

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would think that it's due to overheating but there is no warning siren coming from the computer to let my know that the chipset is having a heating issue

There is an alert feature of sorts that is triggered by the PC Probe application (but that means u need to have PC Probe running). To isolate whether or not the system is overheating use RivaTuner, Speedfan or MBM5 (links for these in Questions 101). Please have the program log temperatures as well as voltages

Dngrsone · 01-31-2006, 12:51 AM

Optical drive == CDROM, CDRW, DVDROM, DVDRW, etc.

Bundy · 01-31-2006, 05:12 AM

Ok, Im finally home and ran the dx diag and ran asus probe, asus probe I did a recording of all the processes and nothing even came close to the threshold when it came to temp..... dx diag did not find anything wrong wish I could upload it but the file size is too large... let me see if I can get the pics of my voltage and cpu temp, BTW oh yeah, opitcal drive

should have been able to just come up with that one myself

Bundy · 01-31-2006, 05:23 AM

Is it possible that since I haven't upgraded my bios that that could be part of the issue?? I know that it's always important but looking around on the asus website it seems like upgrading the bios on my particular motherboard is nothing but a bad idea. I never upgraded my bios (on any computer) so I'm a little nervous about trying it but if it takes care of the issue then I'll do it....

Bundy · 02-01-2006, 04:21 AM

Ok I tried to run memtest86+ and nothing came up bad plus I turned off the resart at system failure but it doesn't give me the BSOD so I don't even know what is going on......bout to give up I just don't know anymore

Vampiric Rouge · 02-01-2006, 05:19 AM

did you test you video card temp? Ausu probe i dont think will do video cards... to me it sounds like a video card heat problem. right before it crashes do you get any artifacts? try downloading a program to check the video card temp under load....

01-30-2006, 07:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
Bundy New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 22	Need help, Im desperate!! First off let me say hi to all of you out there! just joined the forum and looks like a great place to get info.... Hope to get help and possibly help you guys with a few things here and there.... I don't know what to do with my computer anymore, built it myself and never had an issue until now. I have a amd athlon 3200+ 64, a8v deluxe asus motherboard with 200mhz bus, a nvidia ge force 6600 gt 128 mb ram, 1.5 gig of DDRram and a 80 gig HD. Whenever I run any sort of high media (games, videos for long periods of time etc..) my system will hang up or even restart on itself without warning, would think that it's due to overheating but there is no warning siren coming from the computer to let my know that the chipset is having a heating issue.... any help would be appriciated Thanks in advance Bundy

01-30-2006, 08:09 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dngrsone VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Centrally located far from everywhere Posts: 544	Welcome to the forums, Bundy, we're happy you are here. Try turning off the reboot on error: System Properties, Advanced tab, Startup and Recovery Settings, uncheck the Automatically restart box. Let's see what the BSOD gives us. Does this happen only when operating an optical drive? Or do you think that the programs running when failure occurs are memory-intensive? I'm thinking that you may have a RAM issue and/or a heating problem, as you suspected. If this only happens when you are using the optical drive, then it may be that drive is overheating and causing the crash. It's also possible that the RAM is getting hot and corrupting data, thereby causing the crash. Regardless, it might be a good idea to run memtest86+ on all the memory. If you get any failures whatsoever, then you likely have a bad RAM stick. __________________ Dngrsone Saving lives, one protein at a time. Team 12912

01-31-2006, 12:51 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dngrsone VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Centrally located far from everywhere Posts: 544	Optical drive == CDROM, CDRW, DVDROM, DVDRW, etc. __________________ Dngrsone Saving lives, one protein at a time. Team 12912

02-01-2006, 05:19 AM	#10 (permalink)
Vampiric Rouge Platinum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Philadelphia, Pa Age: 21 Posts: 625	did you test you video card temp? Ausu probe i dont think will do video cards... to me it sounds like a video card heat problem. right before it crashes do you get any artifacts? try downloading a program to check the video card temp under load.... __________________ MAIN PC: Intel G965 Express ATX Intel Motherboard\ Intel Core 2 Quad E6700\4gigs of samsung ddr2 ram @ 667\Antec neo 480watt power supply\Nvidia GeForce 7950 gt\400 gigs of Seagate Barracuda 7200, 750 gigs of Western Digital Caviar and 320 gigs of Maxtor\Benq FP202W 20.1" 8ms Widescreen LCD\ RAZOR copperhead\ flexglow gaming mousepad Laptop:ASUS Eee PC 8G - Galaxy Black

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01-30-2006, 07:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bundy New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 22	oh yeah I also have latest drivers for video/sound cards and latest service pack for XP just so you folks know

01-30-2006, 08:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bundy New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 22	Thanks for your reply, guess I should have mentioned my last ditch attempt to get things working since you mentioned my ram getting hot, not aware of running any optical drive so you may need to explain that to me, but I tried to see if it was a heating issue so I took off the case shell and have a $20 wal-mart fan blowing on the motherboard and it does let me go a little further with more labor intensive programs (like F.E.A.R.) I can play for a half-hour/hour as opposed to 5 minutes, so the ram heating up I think may be the issue cause I also have Farcry and when the video settings are low it works for hours but if they're set highest (which is still smooth on the video) it locks and I gotta hard reset or it does it for me, just may need to get a fan set for my ram sticks but I'll also run those diag tools that you gave me

01-31-2006, 05:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bundy New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 22	Ok, Im finally home and ran the dx diag and ran asus probe, asus probe I did a recording of all the processes and nothing even came close to the threshold when it came to temp..... dx diag did not find anything wrong wish I could upload it but the file size is too large... let me see if I can get the pics of my voltage and cpu temp, BTW oh yeah, opitcal drive should have been able to just come up with that one myself

01-31-2006, 05:23 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bundy New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 22	Is it possible that since I haven't upgraded my bios that that could be part of the issue?? I know that it's always important but looking around on the asus website it seems like upgrading the bios on my particular motherboard is nothing but a bad idea. I never upgraded my bios (on any computer) so I'm a little nervous about trying it but if it takes care of the issue then I'll do it....

02-01-2006, 04:21 AM	#9 (permalink)
Bundy New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Age: 27 Posts: 22	Ok I tried to run memtest86+ and nothing came up bad plus I turned off the resart at system failure but it doesn't give me the BSOD so I don't even know what is going on......bout to give up I just don't know anymore