Free songs? How is it illegal anymore?

**The_Other_One** · 03-08-2006, 01:53 AM

OK, so as with my recent post, I'm getting on myspace. So, here's a new question for you guys. We all know about the crap Napster got and similar P2P programs because of music transfers...

OK, well first off, what about online radios? Or standard FM radio? Is that illegal to record and possible transfer? I mean it's totally free!

BUT, here's what really gets me. Have you guys played around with the music on Myspace? They have some REALLY high quality streaming stuff there, and it's totally free(and legal, I assume

) I just got done recording it, so now is that illegal? Is it illegal that I shared it with someone because myspace was being a pain and not loading?

I'm just curious, and ranting a bit. I mean after all this crap and here you can get some of the latest songs for free. Hmm... I wonder if Metalica is on there...

Comments?

Motoxrdude · 03-08-2006, 01:55 AM

Yes i have noticed this too. And the same thing about TV. Record music videos with Tivo, plug the hdd into your comp and bam you have free music videos in awesome quality.

spacedude89 · 03-08-2006, 01:56 AM

Yea, its all illegal. (at least in the US)

Altanore · 03-08-2006, 01:56 AM

From what i know... "stream ripping" is illegal... many are getting banned from shoutcast because of it. All depends what country you are in I think.

Downloading music is still legal in Canada I believe...

**The_Other_One** · 03-08-2006, 01:57 AM

Motoxrdude : There's an easier way

It's called video capture cards, or DVD recorders

Altanore : Man how the hell could it be illegal to record what you hear? I'm not doubting you, though, how stupid some rules are... I mean, espcially with some of these things that you can even play over and over again! It's not like a radio station or a one time listen deal.

kjkiller · 03-08-2006, 02:06 AM

well basically olny sharing files is ilegal and i dont think you would be sharing it with any 1 unless u use napster, limewire, etc

Altanore · 03-08-2006, 02:06 AM

Well I don't know... there are some really stupid laws yes, but stream ripping is pretty much like downloading music. You are just using a different method to do it... It is easy to record it undetected though.

I remember one station threatening to report people who were stream ripping and would bring them to court. I would post a link to there forum that had the post but the site is down now.

suprasteve · 03-08-2006, 04:12 AM

I posted this once before awhile back, but as far as recording stuff, I know a long long time ago when cassette recorders came out, there was a big issue over whether or not it was legal to record songs off the radio to cassette, and the final verdict was that it was legal (I'm sure with restrictions like you can't sell it or anything), dunno if that fits well into this situation or not, but thought I'd share

stalex111 · 03-08-2006, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedude89

Yea, its all illegal. (at least in the US)

A comitee in france is deliberating and may declare downloading legal to a certain extent...Therefore probably giving ideas to the canton of geneva in switzerland. (Switzerland is divided into cantons...the equivalent to states or provinces...but swiss cantons are much more independant...therefore are able to make their own laws and programms)

calumn · 03-21-2006, 08:27 PM

Dont blame me if im being stupid but what about the media guide in windows media player?

03-08-2006, 01:53 AM	#1 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 24 Posts: 12,388	Free songs? How is it illegal anymore? OK, so as with my recent post, I'm getting on myspace. So, here's a new question for you guys. We all know about the crap Napster got and similar P2P programs because of music transfers... OK, well first off, what about online radios? Or standard FM radio? Is that illegal to record and possible transfer? I mean it's totally free! BUT, here's what really gets me. Have you guys played around with the music on Myspace? They have some REALLY high quality streaming stuff there, and it's totally free(and legal, I assume ) I just got done recording it, so now is that illegal? Is it illegal that I shared it with someone because myspace was being a pain and not loading? I'm just curious, and ranting a bit. I mean after all this crap and here you can get some of the latest songs for free. Hmm... I wonder if Metalica is on there... Comments? __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

03-08-2006, 01:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
Motoxrdude Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Nor Cal Age: 18 Posts: 6,715	Yes i have noticed this too. And the same thing about TV. Record music videos with Tivo, plug the hdd into your comp and bam you have free music videos in awesome quality. __________________ RIP Mom 9/17/55-02/22/08. But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed on me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. 1 Corinthians 15:10

03-08-2006, 01:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
spacedude89 Diamond Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Oregon Age: 19 Posts: 1,419	Yea, its all illegal. (at least in the US) __________________ Desktop: Abit AW9D-MAX ~ Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 2.4GHz ~ Radeon X1900GT Laptop: HP ~ Core Duo T2050 ~ nVidia 7600 First smiles, then lies. Last comes gunfire.

03-08-2006, 01:56 AM	#4 (permalink)
Altanore Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Age: 21 Posts: 255	From what i know... "stream ripping" is illegal... many are getting banned from shoutcast because of it. All depends what country you are in I think. Downloading music is still legal in Canada I believe... __________________ Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ S939 Ram: 2x 1GB PC3200 Corsair DDR @dual Channel Video Card: PCI express ATI Radeon X800XL 256mb DDR3 Overclocked Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Drive: LG 16x16 DL DVD±RW w/Light Scribe Hard Drive: Western Digital Sata 120GB 7200rpm, 2x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II, WD 150GB Raptor 10k RPM, SATA, 250GB Lacie External HD Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Power Supply: Enermax 535W FMA2 Cooling: Many fans, Thermaltake Bigwater SE.

03-08-2006, 01:57 AM	#5 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 24 Posts: 12,388	Motoxrdude : There's an easier way It's called video capture cards, or DVD recorders Altanore : Man how the hell could it be illegal to record what you hear? I'm not doubting you, though, how stupid some rules are... I mean, espcially with some of these things that you can even play over and over again! It's not like a radio station or a one time listen deal. __________________ Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT Laptop1 * C2D T5550 \| 3G RAM \| 120G HD \| Intel x3100 Laptop2 * C2D T5250 \| 2G RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100

03-08-2006, 02:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
kjkiller banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: USA Posts: 223	well basically olny sharing files is ilegal and i dont think you would be sharing it with any 1 unless u use napster, limewire, etc

03-08-2006, 02:06 AM	#7 (permalink)
Altanore Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Age: 21 Posts: 255	Well I don't know... there are some really stupid laws yes, but stream ripping is pretty much like downloading music. You are just using a different method to do it... It is easy to record it undetected though. I remember one station threatening to report people who were stream ripping and would bring them to court. I would post a link to there forum that had the post but the site is down now. __________________ Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ S939 Ram: 2x 1GB PC3200 Corsair DDR @dual Channel Video Card: PCI express ATI Radeon X800XL 256mb DDR3 Overclocked Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Drive: LG 16x16 DL DVD±RW w/Light Scribe Hard Drive: Western Digital Sata 120GB 7200rpm, 2x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II, WD 150GB Raptor 10k RPM, SATA, 250GB Lacie External HD Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Power Supply: Enermax 535W FMA2 Cooling: Many fans, Thermaltake Bigwater SE.

03-08-2006, 04:12 AM	#8 (permalink)
suprasteve Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,355	I posted this once before awhile back, but as far as recording stuff, I know a long long time ago when cassette recorders came out, there was a big issue over whether or not it was legal to record songs off the radio to cassette, and the final verdict was that it was legal (I'm sure with restrictions like you can't sell it or anything), dunno if that fits well into this situation or not, but thought I'd share

03-21-2006, 08:27 PM	#10 (permalink)
calumn Gold Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Scotland, infront of my computer Age: 16 Posts: 256	Dont blame me if im being stupid but what about the media guide in windows media player? __________________ CompuTalk - Web Development & Computer Forum Calum Neilson's Website - Computer Stuff, Programming, Linux, Tutorials, Templates, Design, Fun Stuff, Games and More

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