Encore4More(10:24:43 PM): it is just a little better
Bobo6374(10:24:48 PM): and the hard drives still affect games
Encore4More(10:24:54 PM): the speed does
Bobo6374(10:24:55 PM): not online games, of course
Encore4More(10:24:59 PM): not the gameplay
Encore4More(10:25:03 PM): just the loading time
Encore4More(10:25:20 PM): hardly does anything to gameplay
monkeysims123(10:25:31 PM): what kind of harddrive you have encore?
Bobo6374(10:26:12 PM): let's get back to the original question
monkeysims123(10:26:15 PM): k
Encore4More(10:26:23 PM): 7200RPM 40GB ATA133
Encore4More(10:26:28 PM): nothing special
Bobo6374(10:26:59 PM): in what way will getting 2x512mb hinder the performance of his computer?
Encore4More(10:27:01 PM): future of ram
Encore4More(10:27:17 PM): by hindering the upgrading possibilities
Encore4More(10:27:17 PM): http://www.legitreviews.com/article/275/1/
Bobo6374(10:27:18 PM): but we have already established that by the end of next year, 4gb will not be needed
Encore4More(10:27:36 PM): future of ram
Bobo6374(10:27:42 PM): lookie lookie!!!
Bobo6374(10:27:43 PM): I often get asked what kind of memory to suggest for new system buildsand I used to always recommend 1GB of memory in dual channel mode foroptimal performance on today's applications
Encore4More(10:27:50 PM): ye
Bobo6374(10:27:52 PM): 1gb in
dual channel
Encore4More(10:27:55 PM): YES
Encore4More(10:27:56 PM): IK
Encore4More(10:27:59 PM): TODAYS APPLICATIONS
Encore4More(10:28:02 PM): NOT TOMMORROWS
Bobo6374(10:28:13 PM): exactly, so he would get that now, then later have 2gb or 3gb in dual channel
Encore4More(10:28:23 PM): TOMARROWS WILL BE 2GB!!!!!!
Bobo6374(10:28:25 PM): for "tomorrows applications"
Bobo6374(10:28:33 PM): which he can easily upgrade to
Encore4More(10:28:38 PM): YES
Bobo6374(10:28:46 PM): so you are agreeing with me
monkeysims123(10:28:49 PM): i only recommend 2gb if they have the cash
Encore4More(10:28:50 PM): but what about the weekends applications?
Bobo6374(10:28:54 PM): oh stfu
Bobo6374(10:29:01 PM): can we be serious here?
Bobo6374(10:29:50 PM): i will take that as a no
Bobo6374(10:29:55 PM): and assume that you agree with me
Encore4More(10:30:15 PM): i am seriious
Encore4More(10:30:20 PM): that wasn't a joke
Encore4More(10:30:23 PM): i am serious
Bobo6374(10:30:33 PM): then explain what exactly you mean
monkeysims123(10:30:43 PM): no your not encore, shut up and listen to him
Encore4More(10:30:54 PM): Bobo6374: then explain what exactly you mean
Encore4More(10:30:59 PM): who does the listening?
Bobo6374(10:31:05 PM): weekend application.....right
Bobo6374(10:31:10 PM): do i not sense joking there?
Encore4More(10:31:20 PM): that isn't a joke
Bobo6374(10:31:26 PM): how not?
Bobo6374(10:31:41 PM): i have never heard the term weekend application
Encore4More(10:31:52 PM): mean that by saying the day after 2morow
Bobo6374(10:32:02 PM): that would be a joke
Encore4More(10:32:07 PM): no that isn't
Encore4More(10:32:12 PM): i mean
Bobo6374(10:32:13 PM): it isn't being serious
Encore4More(10:32:17 PM): 2morrow as in 4 months ago
monkeysims123(10:32:18 PM): that would be where imo 4gb of ram comes in
Encore4More(10:32:26 PM): bleh
Encore4More(10:32:28 PM): no
Bobo6374(10:32:33 PM): wait...tomorrow is 4 months ago?
Bobo6374(10:32:40 PM): now you are confusing the heck out of me
Encore4More(10:32:41 PM): no
Encore4More(10:32:45 PM): Encore4More:blehEncore4More:no
Encore4More(10:32:45 PM): Encore4More:blehEncore4More:no
Encore4More(10:32:46 PM): Encore4More:blehEncore4More:no
Encore4More(10:32:46 PM): Encore4More:blehEncore4More:no
Bobo6374(10:32:51 PM): geez.....
Encore4More(10:33:03 PM): 2morrow is in 4months
Encore4More(10:33:06 PM): not literally
Encore4More(10:33:09 PM): but u know what i mean
Bobo6374(10:33:15 PM): exactly, it isn't literal
Encore4More(10:33:31 PM): that is when he will upgrade to 2GB
monkeysims123(10:33:33 PM): give up encore
monkeysims123(10:33:42 PM): tomorrow is 2gb
Encore4More(10:33:46 PM): yes
Encore4More(10:33:49 PM): in 4months
Bobo6374(10:33:50 PM): exactly, he will upgrade to 2gb
Encore4More(10:33:54 PM): yes
monkeysims123(10:33:55 PM): the day after (weekend) is 4gb
Encore4More(10:33:56 PM): in 4months
Bobo6374(10:33:57 PM): whenever he
needs 2 gb
Encore4More(10:33:57 PM): he will
monkeysims123(10:34:00 PM): (1-2 years)
Bobo6374(10:34:01 PM): not necessarily in 4 months
Encore4More(10:34:05 PM): the weekend will be the end of next year
Bobo6374(10:34:06 PM): maybe 1-2 years
Encore4More(10:34:15 PM): lets say 6 months after that
Bobo6374(10:34:16 PM): oi, now you are using weird terms again
Encore4More(10:34:29 PM): then that is where 4gb comes in
Encore4More(10:34:43 PM): do u think at the end of next year there will be 4GB ram
Encore4More(10:34:45 PM): in ppls sigs?
Bobo6374(10:34:48 PM): encore, you are outnumbered 4-1, how many more people need to tell you what we are trying to impress upon you?
Encore4More(10:35:17 PM): doesn't matter how many
Encore4More(10:35:18 PM): brb
monkeysims123(10:35:29 PM): YOUR WRONG ENCORE, GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
Encore4More(10:36:48 PM): k back
Encore4More(10:36:51 PM): monkeysims123: YOUR WRONG ENCORE, GIVE UP!!!!!!!!!!!
Encore4More(10:36:55 PM): that is all u guys have
Encore4More(10:37:01 PM): i am actually using logic
Bobo6374(10:37:02 PM): not what i have, but what he has
Encore4More(10:37:12 PM): and i amactually LOOKING THIS UP ONLINE
Encore4More(10:37:29 PM): that guy before comes in telling me i am rambling makeing stuff up, and then i give him articles
Encore4More(10:37:37 PM): showing him facts
Bobo6374(10:37:38 PM): and we are sitting here telling you that you are wrong, using information that we know
Encore4More(10:37:49 PM): hold on
monkeysims123(10:38:07 PM): were not talking about that
monkeysims123(10:38:16 PM): we are talking about 4gb of ram
Bobo6374(10:38:22 PM): not really
monkeysims123(10:38:43 PM): and how that will affect that one guys computer
Encore4More(10:38:45 PM): ok
Encore4More(10:38:48 PM): listen here
Bobo6374(10:38:54 PM): *closes ears*
Encore4More(10:38:55 PM): please to not type anything until i say
monkeysims123(10:39:01 PM): *earmuffs*
Encore4More(10:39:12 PM): why are u guys here?
Bobo6374(10:39:17 PM): because you are stubborn
monkeysims123(10:39:22 PM): hardheaded
monkeysims123(10:39:24 PM): ....
Encore4More(10:39:28 PM): stubborn?
Bobo6374(10:39:32 PM): and so are we, so we keep trying to show you the light
Encore4More(10:39:36 PM): stuborb?
Encore4More(10:39:37 PM): Encore4More:listen hereBobo6374: *closes ears*
Encore4More(10:39:38 PM): yea'
Encore4More(10:39:42 PM): who is stubborn?
Encore4More(10:39:44 PM): Encore4More:listen hereBobo6374: *closes ears*
Encore4More(10:39:44 PM): Encore4More:listen hereBobo6374: *closes ears*
Encore4More(10:39:44 PM): Encore4More:listen hereBobo6374: *closes ears*
Encore4More(10:39:48 PM): what is stuborn?
Encore4More(10:39:56 PM): hypocryt
monkeysims123(10:39:57 PM): you dont listen
Bobo6374(10:39:59 PM): i am more stubborn than you are, trust me
monkeysims123(10:40:06 PM): same here
Bobo6374(10:40:15 PM): none of us listen, that is why we are all still here arguing
Encore4More(10:40:16 PM): than why are u saying ur gona fix me?
Encore4More(10:40:28 PM): and that ur gona show me the light
monkeysims123(10:40:32 PM): listen to me and bobo, encore dont talk
Encore4More(10:40:36 PM): when u can't even find the light switch
Bobo6374(10:40:46 PM): i do have half a brain
Encore4More(10:40:55 PM): i will listen if u listen to me after
Bobo6374(10:40:56 PM): enough to understand this and see the light switch
Encore4More(10:40:57 PM): type
Encore4More(10:41:00 PM): now
Bobo6374(10:41:03 PM): why?
Bobo6374(10:41:10 PM): ok...fine
Encore4More(10:41:16 PM): monkeysims123: listen to me and bobo, encore dont talk
Encore4More(10:41:18 PM): go
Bobo6374(10:41:28 PM): 1gb is plenty right now, many people have said so
Bobo6374(10:41:37 PM): i am not going to quote them all, just read the thread for yourself
monkeysims123(10:41:47 PM): 2gb is unneeded now, but it can be used
Bobo6374(10:41:56 PM): but there is no reason why he shouldn't go for dual channel right now
monkeysims123(10:42:02 PM): 2gb will be optimal "tomorrow"
Bobo6374(10:42:10 PM): because that is all he needs
right now and the dual channel with boost performance
monkeysims123(10:42:20 PM): correct
Bobo6374(10:42:24 PM): in the future, he can upgrade to 2gb, and have a perfectly balanced system
monkeysims123(10:42:29 PM): correct
Bobo6374(10:42:43 PM): or, if he
really really needs it, which is a slim possibilty, he can upgrade to 3gb without wasting any ram
Encore4More(10:42:43 PM): is that all u have to say?
Encore4More(10:42:47 PM): tell me when ur done
Encore4More(10:42:51 PM): so i can type
Bobo6374(10:42:52 PM): i am done for now
Bobo6374(10:43:00 PM): while i look for the lightswithch
Bobo6374(10:43:06 PM): go ahead, i'll shut up
Encore4More(10:43:06 PM): monkey sims?
Encore4More(10:43:08 PM): anything
Encore4More(10:43:14 PM): u done?
monkeysims123(10:43:15 PM): bobo summed it up
Encore4More(10:43:18 PM): ok
Encore4More(10:43:32 PM): now, u have not showed any proof, or showed any logic
Encore4More(10:43:39 PM): i am going to show u logic
Encore4More(10:44:09 PM): 1999- 64/128
Encore4More(10:44:21 PM): 2000-128/256
monkeysims123(10:44:30 PM): IVE ALREADY HEARD THIS ONCE AND IM NOT LISTENING TO IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Encore4More(10:44:30 PM): 2001-128/256
Encore4More(10:44:45 PM): monkeysims
Encore4More(10:44:46 PM): u failes
Encore4More(10:44:49 PM): failed*
Encore4More(10:44:54 PM): u should leave the room
Encore4More(10:45:00 PM): bob didn't interrupt me
Encore4More(10:45:02 PM): bobo*
Bobo6374(10:45:10 PM): i disciplined monkey
Bobo6374(10:45:11 PM): go ahead
Encore4More(10:45:24 PM): i have to start over now
Encore4More(10:45:27 PM): 1999- 64/128
Encore4More(10:45:31 PM): 2000-128/256
Encore4More(10:45:39 PM): 2001-128/256
Encore4More(10:45:47 PM): 2002 - 256/512
Encore4More(10:45:54 PM): 2003 - 256/512
Encore4More(10:46:01 PM): 2004 - 512/1024
Encore4More(10:46:06 PM): 2005 - 1024/2048
Encore4More(10:46:12 PM): 2006 - 1024/2048
Encore4More(10:46:42 PM): now, you LOGICALLY continue, don't type words, JUST continue the chart LOGICALLY 3 years
Encore4More(10:46:43 PM): bobo
Encore4More(10:46:45 PM): u do it
Bobo6374(10:46:58 PM): there is no definite pattern
monkeysims123(10:47:01 PM): 2004 - 256/512, 2005 - 512/1024
Bobo6374(10:47:06 PM): because quantity is not the only factor
monkeysims123(10:47:08 PM): thats more reasonable to me
Bobo6374(10:47:14 PM): RAM speed is skyrocketing
Bobo6374(10:47:26 PM): it has doubled (for AMD) systems just in a few months
monkeysims123(10:47:32 PM): were at 800mhz now
Bobo6374(10:47:38 PM): NONONO
monkeysims123(10:47:39 PM): 400mhz 2 months ago
Bobo6374(10:47:47 PM): DDR2-800 is 400MHz
Bobo6374(10:47:53 PM): please don't start that with me
monkeysims123(10:47:58 PM): lol
Bobo6374(10:48:01 PM): anyway,
Encore4More(10:48:07 PM): 133MHz in 1999
Bobo6374(10:48:16 PM): we don't need your charts
Encore4More(10:48:28 PM): i don't need your ideas
monkeysims123(10:48:31 PM): no charts please
Encore4More(10:48:45 PM): that is like saying "no proof please"
Encore4More(10:48:55 PM): "no logic please"
Bobo6374(10:48:55 PM): you say your charts are right, yet we and many others say we are right
monkeysims123(10:48:57 PM): we dont need proif
Encore4More(10:49:04 PM): chart is proof
monkeysims123(10:49:05 PM): your proof*
Encore4More(10:49:14 PM): logically continue the chart
Bobo6374(10:49:21 PM): from the very website that you listed:
Bobo6374(10:49:23 PM): 1GB of memory in dual channel mode foroptimal performance on today's applications
Encore4More(10:49:30 PM): people on computer forum have 2gb ram
Encore4More(10:49:33 PM): tons of ppl;
Bobo6374(10:49:34 PM): and that is your proof
Encore4More(10:49:38 PM): yes
Encore4More(10:49:39 PM): todays
monkeysims123(10:49:43 PM): casue they have bookoos of money
Bobo6374(10:49:44 PM): which is the point
Bobo6374(10:49:49 PM): he won't need 2gb until tomorrow
monkeysims123(10:49:57 PM): "tomorrow"
Encore4More(10:49:58 PM): yes
Encore4More(10:50:00 PM): exactly
Bobo6374(10:50:00 PM): at which point he would upgrade to 2gb or 3gb, not 4gb
Encore4More(10:50:12 PM): no yhe would upgrade to 2gb tomarrow
Bobo6374(10:50:21 PM): no he wouldn't, and isn't going to
Bobo6374(10:50:27 PM): oh wait...which tomorrow?
Encore4More(10:50:30 PM): and the day after 2morrow he would upgrade to 4
Bobo6374(10:50:39 PM): oi....i hate these logical terms
Bobo6374(10:50:43 PM): they mess with my brain
monkeysims123(10:50:45 PM): same here
Bobo6374(10:50:48 PM): but why 4?
Encore4More(10:50:57 PM): i have discovered that we aren't going to finish this agreeing
Bobo6374(10:51:03 PM): if you look at the chart, the numbers don't double every year
Bobo6374(10:51:27 PM): then let's agree to disagree and see what cf thinks
monkeysims123(10:51:35 PM): i agree