OC Question

Altanore · 03-21-2006, 02:20 AM

Since I got my new heatsink cooling, I want to try going to 2.4ghz again. Since my motherboard has the "219 bug", I have to overclock via windows useing clockgen. When I do find out if it is stable at 2.4ghz, i can set the program to automatically set the cpu to that clock when windows boots.

I'm just wondering if it's very good for the cpu to be doing a sudden jump to 2.4ghz from 2.0ghz all the time when I loads into windows. Default for the cpu is 2.0ghz (AMD Athlon 64 3200+).

Also, for the cpu voltage, at what point normally would the voltage increase start becoming dangerous? Its set at 1.4v although CPUZ is reporting 1.3xx volts. Max I took it was 1.5v when trying for 2.4ghz... but the temp was going above 50C and it was unstable.. so i was hoping it's a temp issue. Didn't want to go above 1.5v

Thanks in advance.

sniperchang · 03-21-2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altanore

Since I got my new heatsink cooling, I want to try going to 2.4ghz again. Since my motherboard has the "219 bug", I have to overclock via windows useing clockgen. When I do find out if it is stable at 2.4ghz, i can set the program to automatically set the cpu to that clock when windows boots.

I'm just wondering if it's very good for the cpu to be doing a sudden jump to 2.4ghz from 2.0ghz all the time when I loads into windows. Default for the cpu is 2.0ghz (AMD Athlon 64 3200+).

Also, for the cpu voltage, at what point normally would the voltage increase start becoming dangerous? Its set at 1.4v although CPUZ is reporting 1.3xx volts. Max I took it was 1.5v when trying for 2.4ghz... but the temp was going above 50C and it was unstable.. so i was hoping it's a temp issue. Didn't want to go above 1.5v

Thanks in advance.

Well, since your going to overclock at any speed, it's a good ideal to have good cooling anyway, so getting a better cooling system isn't a bad Ideal.

**apj101** · 03-21-2006, 10:19 AM

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Since my motherboard has the "219 bug", I have to overclock via windows useing clockgen. When I do find out if it is stable at 2.4ghz, i can set the program to automatically set the cpu to that clock when windows boots.

i believe there is a bios flash available to fix the 219 bug in MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum, try
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/suppor...UID=637&kind=1
if not try
http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nn...a/k8nneo4.html

Altanore · 03-21-2006, 04:25 PM

I tried getting the latest bios possible, but the bug is still there. Seems like MSI is the only manufactuar who is unable to resolve the issue

krimson_king · 03-21-2006, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Altanore

Also, for the cpu voltage, at what point normally would the voltage increase start becoming dangerous? Its set at 1.4v although CPUZ is reporting 1.3xx volts. Max I took it was 1.5v when trying for 2.4ghz... but the temp was going above 50C and it was unstable.. so i was hoping it's a temp issue. Didn't want to go above 1.5v

Thanks in advance.

thats a good indicator. unless you want to melt it all over the mobo, dont try to increase that a whole lot more.

fade2green514 · 03-21-2006, 11:51 PM

haha dont scare him... that cpu should o/c just fine. its the 939 version so it should have 90nm making it nice and cool.. o/cable to lets say... 2.8ghz? haha some have gotten that far. whatever you do don't just raise voltage BEFORE the comp starts getting unstable. read cpu101 and o/c101 it'll tell you that SURE clockspeed will raise heat, but voltage raises heat more than frequency.

Altanore · 03-22-2006, 08:17 AM

I'm at a stable 2.2ghz right now. Also got a stable 2.3ghz but the memory speed was too low. The voltages seem funny though... if I increase it to 1.5v via clockgen.. cpuz reports an average of 1.4v....

When the setting is on 1.4v(normal).. cpuz reports 1.320v to 1.360v. Anything above 2.3ghz is unstable... but the voltage won't go to 1.5v according to cpuz.. so which one should I trust?

fade2green514 · 03-22-2006, 01:18 PM

use a memory divider and a lower hypertransport multiplier.
one will be like "200mhz, 166mhz, 133mhz, 100mhz" for the memory divider, you'll probably want to change it to 166mhz... and as for the hypertransport multiplier its probably something like "5x, 4x, 3x, 2x, 1x" although i think some offer like 3.5x or 2.5x which is weird but... that'll help you find it in the bios.

make sure you watch your heat and take all other alternatives before raising voltage!

Altanore · 03-22-2006, 04:31 PM

I've already know and done all that

Just wondering why when I change the voltage, it does not appear to be what it should be in CPUZ. Temps are fine. On load, it only reaches 39C.

**apj101** · 03-22-2006, 04:34 PM

cpu-z is know to get the vcore wrong often

03-21-2006, 02:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
Altanore Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Age: 21 Posts: 255	OC Question Since I got my new heatsink cooling, I want to try going to 2.4ghz again. Since my motherboard has the "219 bug", I have to overclock via windows useing clockgen. When I do find out if it is stable at 2.4ghz, i can set the program to automatically set the cpu to that clock when windows boots. I'm just wondering if it's very good for the cpu to be doing a sudden jump to 2.4ghz from 2.0ghz all the time when I loads into windows. Default for the cpu is 2.0ghz (AMD Athlon 64 3200+). Also, for the cpu voltage, at what point normally would the voltage increase start becoming dangerous? Its set at 1.4v although CPUZ is reporting 1.3xx volts. Max I took it was 1.5v when trying for 2.4ghz... but the temp was going above 50C and it was unstable.. so i was hoping it's a temp issue. Didn't want to go above 1.5v Thanks in advance. __________________ Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ S939 Ram: 2x 1GB PC3200 Corsair DDR @dual Channel Video Card: PCI express ATI Radeon X800XL 256mb DDR3 Overclocked Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Drive: LG 16x16 DL DVD±RW w/Light Scribe Hard Drive: Western Digital Sata 120GB 7200rpm, 2x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II, WD 150GB Raptor 10k RPM, SATA, 250GB Lacie External HD Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Power Supply: Enermax 535W FMA2 Cooling: Many fans, Thermaltake Bigwater SE.

03-21-2006, 04:25 PM	#4 (permalink)
Altanore Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Age: 21 Posts: 255	I tried getting the latest bios possible, but the bug is still there. Seems like MSI is the only manufactuar who is unable to resolve the issue __________________ Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ S939 Ram: 2x 1GB PC3200 Corsair DDR @dual Channel Video Card: PCI express ATI Radeon X800XL 256mb DDR3 Overclocked Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Drive: LG 16x16 DL DVD±RW w/Light Scribe Hard Drive: Western Digital Sata 120GB 7200rpm, 2x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II, WD 150GB Raptor 10k RPM, SATA, 250GB Lacie External HD Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Power Supply: Enermax 535W FMA2 Cooling: Many fans, Thermaltake Bigwater SE.

03-21-2006, 11:51 PM	#6 (permalink)
fade2green514 Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: buffalo ny Age: 19 Posts: 3,434	haha dont scare him... that cpu should o/c just fine. its the 939 version so it should have 90nm making it nice and cool.. o/cable to lets say... 2.8ghz? haha some have gotten that far. whatever you do don't just raise voltage BEFORE the comp starts getting unstable. read cpu101 and o/c101 it'll tell you that SURE clockspeed will raise heat, but voltage raises heat more than frequency. __________________ Core 2 Duo e6300 (2.71ghz o/ced)(Q6600 soon!) Thermaltake Big Typhoon CPU cooler DFI Infinity 975X motherboard Radeon HD 4850 512mb (700mhz/2200mhz) 2x2gb G.Skill ddr2-800 4-4-4-12 (2.1v) 2x80gb WD 8mb sata2 in RAID 0 system drive 1x250gb Seagate 7200.9 storage drive Windows Vista x64

03-22-2006, 08:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
Altanore Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Age: 21 Posts: 255	I'm at a stable 2.2ghz right now. Also got a stable 2.3ghz but the memory speed was too low. The voltages seem funny though... if I increase it to 1.5v via clockgen.. cpuz reports an average of 1.4v.... When the setting is on 1.4v(normal).. cpuz reports 1.320v to 1.360v. Anything above 2.3ghz is unstable... but the voltage won't go to 1.5v according to cpuz.. so which one should I trust? __________________ Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ S939 Ram: 2x 1GB PC3200 Corsair DDR @dual Channel Video Card: PCI express ATI Radeon X800XL 256mb DDR3 Overclocked Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Drive: LG 16x16 DL DVD±RW w/Light Scribe Hard Drive: Western Digital Sata 120GB 7200rpm, 2x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II, WD 150GB Raptor 10k RPM, SATA, 250GB Lacie External HD Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Power Supply: Enermax 535W FMA2 Cooling: Many fans, Thermaltake Bigwater SE.

03-22-2006, 01:18 PM	#8 (permalink)
fade2green514 Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: buffalo ny Age: 19 Posts: 3,434	use a memory divider and a lower hypertransport multiplier. one will be like "200mhz, 166mhz, 133mhz, 100mhz" for the memory divider, you'll probably want to change it to 166mhz... and as for the hypertransport multiplier its probably something like "5x, 4x, 3x, 2x, 1x" although i think some offer like 3.5x or 2.5x which is weird but... that'll help you find it in the bios. make sure you watch your heat and take all other alternatives before raising voltage! __________________ Core 2 Duo e6300 (2.71ghz o/ced)(Q6600 soon!) Thermaltake Big Typhoon CPU cooler DFI Infinity 975X motherboard Radeon HD 4850 512mb (700mhz/2200mhz) 2x2gb G.Skill ddr2-800 4-4-4-12 (2.1v) 2x80gb WD 8mb sata2 in RAID 0 system drive 1x250gb Seagate 7200.9 storage drive Windows Vista x64

03-22-2006, 04:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Altanore Gold Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Age: 21 Posts: 255	I've already know and done all that Just wondering why when I change the voltage, it does not appear to be what it should be in CPUZ. Temps are fine. On load, it only reaches 39C. __________________ Processor: AMD Athlon64 3200+ S939 Ram: 2x 1GB PC3200 Corsair DDR @dual Channel Video Card: PCI express ATI Radeon X800XL 256mb DDR3 Overclocked Motherboard: MSI K8N Neo4 Platinum Drive: LG 16x16 DL DVD±RW w/Light Scribe Hard Drive: Western Digital Sata 120GB 7200rpm, 2x Seagate 320GB 7200RPM 16MB SATA II, WD 150GB Raptor 10k RPM, SATA, 250GB Lacie External HD Sound: Sound Blaster X-Fi Fatal1ty FPS Power Supply: Enermax 535W FMA2 Cooling: Many fans, Thermaltake Bigwater SE.

03-22-2006, 04:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
apj101 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Age: 26 Posts: 9,145	cpu-z is know to get the vcore wrong often

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