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Blue · 11-01-2004, 03:18 AM

Oh ya :-).. again are we sure this is an upgrade or a complete instal? Of course this is very important.

Deathrow · 11-01-2004, 03:50 PM

im pretty sure its just an upgrade coz the disk isnt bootable so it cant be a full install, right...?

Blue · 11-01-2004, 05:12 PM

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im pretty sure its just an upgrade coz the disk isnt bootable so it cant be a full install, right

Depends really, Is it a disk that someone burnt? or was it a disk ordered offline?

Blue · 11-01-2004, 05:14 PM

Because Windows XP 64-Bit Edition requires entirely new hardware, there will be no upgrade from 32-bit operating systems to Windows XP 64-Bit Edition. Windows XP 64-Bit Edition will be available through OEMs who offer Itanium-based hardware.

So you need a new disk ;-)..

Tiss rather simple really.. all you need to do is get your hands on a bootable copy and make sure your bios is set up and do a full instal.

You do know that the 64bit is beta and is not recommended to instal righ now if your a gammer.

As a matter of fact unless you have some 64bit software that you'd like to run it's pretty much pointless as 32 bit apps will run better on a 32bit operating system.

Deathrow · 11-01-2004, 11:18 PM

oh right coz ive been having problems with my current operating system, its pretty slow and whilst playing games i ping out occasionally.

Blue · 11-01-2004, 11:22 PM

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oh right coz ive been having problems with my current operating system, its pretty slow and whilst playing games i ping out occasionally.

Well if you've been having trouble with your current setup then I dont see how 64 bit os will help 32 bit inside the 64 windows enviroment Is emulated so it's much slower then if it where running on a 32bit os.

I might also mention that with your machine you should not have to worry about poor performance unless something is not configured properly or you've lots of spyware and such slowing it down.

Deathrow · 11-02-2004, 01:16 PM

Well the exact problem is that whilst playing Call of Duty game online ill be playing ok then suddenly my ping will go to 999 (is normally 30-50) for about 5 seconds then it goes ok but happens again later. Iver had my internet and all my componenets checked and they are fine. I was told its my operating system but ive tried 2 copies of windows xp and both have same results. any ideas?

Also why is this?
"You do know that the 64bit is beta and is not recommended to instal righ now if your a gammer."

it not run games or something on 64bit?

**Praetor** · 11-02-2004, 05:02 PM

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Its already burnt to a disk and its not a bootable disk

It should be bootable? :confused;

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im pretty sure its just an upgrade coz the disk isnt bootable so it cant be a full install, right...?

You'll need the full install then

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32 bit inside the 64 windows enviroment Is emulated so it's much slower then if it where running on a 32bit os.

No it isnt. it runs realmode 32bit.

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Also why is this?
"You do know that the 64bit is beta and is not recommended to instal righ now if your a gammer."

Non-applicable. W64 is pretty damn sweet for gaming. Just play through Red Mercury in 32bit and then play in 64bit. "Gamers" would opt for the 64bit version.

Blue · 11-02-2004, 05:59 PM

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No it isnt. it runs realmode 32bit

Well then Microsoft Lied.

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Non-applicable. W64 is pretty damn sweet for gaming. Just play through Red Mercury in 32bit and then play in 64bit. "Gamers" would opt for the 64bit version.

I've read otherwise for just about all games but I really dont know about that game. Also I'd imaging 32 bit games would run better on a 32bit operating system rather then emulation.

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You'll need the full install then

Definatly, It does not come in an upgrade form.

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It should be bootable? :confused;

are you asking a question :-).. If so then ya I believe it is.

Blue · 11-02-2004, 06:07 PM

A key feature of Windows XP 64-Bit Edition is its ability to run 32-bit Windows-based applications unmodified on the 64-bit platform. To enable this capability, Microsoft has added a new 32-bit subsystem to Windows XP 64-Bit Edition. This subsystem—Windows on Windows 64—provides the 32-bit Windows services needed for applications to run properly even if they are not 64-bit. (Note: This subsystem does not support 16-bit applications.)

. Windows on Windows 64 is a 32-bit Windows subsystem that allows you to run 32 bit applications on 64-bit Windows. Because 32-bit applications run in an emulation mode, Microsoft recommends running 32-bit applications on 32-bit hardware for optimal performance.

Copy pasted from Microsoft website

11-01-2004, 03:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Blue VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Ontario Age: 35 Posts: 3,555	Oh ya :-).. again are we sure this is an upgrade or a complete instal? Of course this is very important. __________________ FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358

11-01-2004, 03:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
Deathrow Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Leeds Age: 20 Posts: 287	im pretty sure its just an upgrade coz the disk isnt bootable so it cant be a full install, right...? __________________ O/S:Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit SP1 CPU:Intel C2Q Q6600 (G0) 3.65GHz w/Thermalright Ultra-120 MB:XFX 780i P04 Bios RAM:4GB OCZ DDR2 Reaper EB Edition 810MHz\|4 3 3 8 2T HD:150GB WD Raptor GPU:XFX 9800GX2 1024MB\|700MHz GPU\|2.2GHz Mem\|1750MHz Shader Monitor:Samsung 22inch Widescreen Sound:SB X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Input:Steelseries 5hV2 Headset\|HABU Gaming mouse\|Saitek Eclipse2 Keyboard\|Tagan BZ 1300W PSU \| 3DMark06:18,144

11-01-2004, 05:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
Blue VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Ontario Age: 35 Posts: 3,555	Because Windows XP 64-Bit Edition requires entirely new hardware, there will be no upgrade from 32-bit operating systems to Windows XP 64-Bit Edition. Windows XP 64-Bit Edition will be available through OEMs who offer Itanium-based hardware. So you need a new disk ;-).. Tiss rather simple really.. all you need to do is get your hands on a bootable copy and make sure your bios is set up and do a full instal. You do know that the 64bit is beta and is not recommended to instal righ now if your a gammer. As a matter of fact unless you have some 64bit software that you'd like to run it's pretty much pointless as 32 bit apps will run better on a 32bit operating system. __________________ FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358 Last edited by Blue; 11-01-2004 at 05:32 PM.

11-01-2004, 11:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
Deathrow Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Leeds Age: 20 Posts: 287	oh right coz ive been having problems with my current operating system, its pretty slow and whilst playing games i ping out occasionally. __________________ O/S:Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit SP1 CPU:Intel C2Q Q6600 (G0) 3.65GHz w/Thermalright Ultra-120 MB:XFX 780i P04 Bios RAM:4GB OCZ DDR2 Reaper EB Edition 810MHz\|4 3 3 8 2T HD:150GB WD Raptor GPU:XFX 9800GX2 1024MB\|700MHz GPU\|2.2GHz Mem\|1750MHz Shader Monitor:Samsung 22inch Widescreen Sound:SB X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Input:Steelseries 5hV2 Headset\|HABU Gaming mouse\|Saitek Eclipse2 Keyboard\|Tagan BZ 1300W PSU \| 3DMark06:18,144

11-02-2004, 01:16 PM	#17 (permalink)
Deathrow Gold Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Leeds Age: 20 Posts: 287	Well the exact problem is that whilst playing Call of Duty game online ill be playing ok then suddenly my ping will go to 999 (is normally 30-50) for about 5 seconds then it goes ok but happens again later. Iver had my internet and all my componenets checked and they are fine. I was told its my operating system but ive tried 2 copies of windows xp and both have same results. any ideas? Also why is this? "You do know that the 64bit is beta and is not recommended to instal righ now if your a gammer." it not run games or something on 64bit? __________________ O/S:Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit SP1 CPU:Intel C2Q Q6600 (G0) 3.65GHz w/Thermalright Ultra-120 MB:XFX 780i P04 Bios RAM:4GB OCZ DDR2 Reaper EB Edition 810MHz\|4 3 3 8 2T HD:150GB WD Raptor GPU:XFX 9800GX2 1024MB\|700MHz GPU\|2.2GHz Mem\|1750MHz Shader Monitor:Samsung 22inch Widescreen Sound:SB X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Input:Steelseries 5hV2 Headset\|HABU Gaming mouse\|Saitek Eclipse2 Keyboard\|Tagan BZ 1300W PSU \| 3DMark06:18,144

11-02-2004, 06:07 PM	#20 (permalink)
Blue VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London Ontario Age: 35 Posts: 3,555	A key feature of Windows XP 64-Bit Edition is its ability to run 32-bit Windows-based applications unmodified on the 64-bit platform. To enable this capability, Microsoft has added a new 32-bit subsystem to Windows XP 64-Bit Edition. This subsystem—Windows on Windows 64—provides the 32-bit Windows services needed for applications to run properly even if they are not 64-bit. (Note: This subsystem does not support 16-bit applications.) . Windows on Windows 64 is a 32-bit Windows subsystem that allows you to run 32 bit applications on 64-bit Windows. Because 32-bit applications run in an emulation mode, Microsoft recommends running 32-bit applications on 32-bit hardware for optimal performance. Copy pasted from Microsoft website __________________ FOLDING FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND :F@H Team 44358

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