PC Freezing Problems EVEN after full system restore

llcoolsu · 03-31-2006, 03:19 PM

I know this is not a software fault and is ahardware fault because even after rebooting my pc it randomly freezes when you do a simple task. It does it quite often and i have to turn it off at mains to start it back up. Which bit of hardware do i need to change????????

suprasteve · 03-31-2006, 03:27 PM

you did a full reformat and reinstall not just a restore right? I'd say mobo/processor problem, you could also do a chkdsk to make sure it isn't the hard drive

llcoolsu · 03-31-2006, 03:41 PM

well i used the restore disks to restore evertything back to factory settings...it wipes all of your harddrive and settings and everything to back how it was when you bought....by checkdisk you mean scandisk?? and should i do just standard scan all the full system data and surface scan??? also it happens when i start up any program normally...but sometimes happens if you just leave the pc to do what it wants to....

OvenMaster · 03-31-2006, 04:52 PM

1. What OS are you using?
2. Have you installed the very latest chipset drivers?'
3. When you run checkdisk/scandisk, set it to do the full system scan.
4. Did you uninstall all of the rubbish programs that you don't want?
5. Have you done a virus scan? My restore discs have a virus built in and the very first program I need to install and run after restoring is the Blaster worm removal tool from Microsoft.
6. There's a chance your CPU is overheating. My old DEC used to freeze up until I ducted cool air through the heatsink directly.
Tom

llcoolsu · 03-31-2006, 05:27 PM

im on xp...used to be windows 98 an if it was overheating...wouldnt it take a while to freeze..sometimes it just freezes in the start up procedure

cell4me · 03-31-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by llcoolsu

im on xp...used to be windows 98 an if it was overheating...wouldnt it take a while to freeze..sometimes it just freezes in the start up procedure

I would suspect your cpu, startup is cpu intensive my fans kick on during startup. The only other time my fans will kick on is if I am video editing or playing a game.

First thing I would check to make sure your cooling fans are working properly and I would also check to make sure your heatsink for your cpu is not clogged with dust. If it is blow it out with a can of compressed air you can buy them for about $5 american.

llcoolsu · 03-31-2006, 06:21 PM

yeh i noticed it is when the pc starts making a louder hmming sound that the problem occurs...i cleaned out my fans this morning...what is the heatsink and what does it look like..

cell4me · 03-31-2006, 06:43 PM

Your heat sink will look like a metel box with fins or vents on it and will be sitting right on top of your cpu...it should have a fan attached to it.

llcoolsu · 03-31-2006, 07:57 PM

i just took out the box with fins and yes it had a fan attched...the fan had a little lead which leads to a plug and the whole heatsink is hooked on the computer with the kind am of linkage you have between ram cards and pc...so would that mean the cpu was attched to the heat sink...also i took it out cleaned it..had a LOT of dust put it back in and now it freezes even quicker than before

everytime i start it up on the start up procudure it freezes...before it used to normally go onto the pc but freeze when i started up something

whats gone worse

cell4me · 03-31-2006, 08:43 PM

Did you take the heat sink off the cpu? Because thats a NO NO it has thermo paste between the heat sink and the cpu. If ya did you will have to buy some new thermo paste. I told ya to just spray it with compressed air. How old is this computer and what cpu do you have? I am almost sure this is what your problem is!

03-31-2006, 03:19 PM	#1 (permalink)
llcoolsu Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	PC Freezing Problems EVEN after full system restore I know this is not a software fault and is ahardware fault because even after rebooting my pc it randomly freezes when you do a simple task. It does it quite often and i have to turn it off at mains to start it back up. Which bit of hardware do i need to change????????

03-31-2006, 03:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
llcoolsu Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	well i used the restore disks to restore evertything back to factory settings...it wipes all of your harddrive and settings and everything to back how it was when you bought....by checkdisk you mean scandisk?? and should i do just standard scan all the full system data and surface scan??? also it happens when i start up any program normally...but sometimes happens if you just leave the pc to do what it wants to.... Last edited by llcoolsu; 03-31-2006 at 03:59 PM.

03-31-2006, 04:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
OvenMaster VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Red Sox Nation Age: 49 Posts: 2,004	1. What OS are you using? 2. Have you installed the very latest chipset drivers?' 3. When you run checkdisk/scandisk, set it to do the full system scan. 4. Did you uninstall all of the rubbish programs that you don't want? 5. Have you done a virus scan? My restore discs have a virus built in and the very first program I need to install and run after restoring is the Blaster worm removal tool from Microsoft. 6. There's a chance your CPU is overheating. My old DEC used to freeze up until I ducted cool air through the heatsink directly. Tom __________________ Frankenbox III: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ * MOBO: Biostar K8M800 Micro AM2 * RAM: 2x1GB Kingston DDR2 667 HDD: WD 80GB Master, Seagate 320GB Slave * OPT: two Pioneer DVR-115DBK DVD burners PSU: Antec Basiq 500W * GPU: PNY GeForce FX5200 256MB AGP 8x * MON: ViewSonic LCD VA721 CASE: EvTek minitower * SND: Diamond Xtreme 5.1 * OS: XP Home SP2 * ROUTER: Linksys BEFSR41 Last edited by OvenMaster; 03-31-2006 at 04:55 PM.

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llcoolsu Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	im on xp...used to be windows 98 an if it was overheating...wouldnt it take a while to freeze..sometimes it just freezes in the start up procedure Last edited by llcoolsu; 03-31-2006 at 05:39 PM.

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03-31-2006, 03:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
suprasteve Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,355	you did a full reformat and reinstall not just a restore right? I'd say mobo/processor problem, you could also do a chkdsk to make sure it isn't the hard drive

03-31-2006, 06:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
llcoolsu Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	yeh i noticed it is when the pc starts making a louder hmming sound that the problem occurs...i cleaned out my fans this morning...what is the heatsink and what does it look like..

03-31-2006, 06:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
cell4me banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,486	Your heat sink will look like a metel box with fins or vents on it and will be sitting right on top of your cpu...it should have a fan attached to it.

03-31-2006, 07:57 PM	#9 (permalink)
llcoolsu Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 71	i just took out the box with fins and yes it had a fan attched...the fan had a little lead which leads to a plug and the whole heatsink is hooked on the computer with the kind am of linkage you have between ram cards and pc...so would that mean the cpu was attched to the heat sink...also i took it out cleaned it..had a LOT of dust put it back in and now it freezes even quicker than before everytime i start it up on the start up procudure it freezes...before it used to normally go onto the pc but freeze when i started up something whats gone worse

03-31-2006, 08:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
cell4me banned Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 1,486	Did you take the heat sink off the cpu? Because thats a NO NO it has thermo paste between the heat sink and the cpu. If ya did you will have to buy some new thermo paste. I told ya to just spray it with compressed air. How old is this computer and what cpu do you have? I am almost sure this is what your problem is!