Look over this build before I put in the order

whip-rush · 04-03-2006, 07:01 AM

Any glaring hardware issues before I put in the order with newegg?

I posted a different config a week or so ago, but the budget has dropped since then, so no dual core or 7800, oh well.

Total: 712.00

Processor:AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail

Video Card: eVGA 256-P2-N553-AX Geforce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

MOBO: ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

HDD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM

Case: AMS Gmono CF-2029SW-S Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

PSU: HIPRO HP-P500W/TOP-500P5 ATX V2.01 500W Power Supply - OEM

Ram: CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) - Retail

DVD Drive: NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE/ATAPI Model ND-3550A - OEM

Flipper · 04-03-2006, 07:06 AM

Get this hard drive instead,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

Your motherboard supports it, it is one dollar more expensive, and having an IDE hard drive in these ages is getting to be outdated.

Also I would check with others on the power supply, I haven't heard of them and it's pretty cheap for that much wattage. Even though it has 4 good reviews...that is usually right after the buyer purchases it.

Remember do you need windows? or a floppy drive?

whip-rush · 04-03-2006, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipper

Get this hard drive instead,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106

Your motherboard supports it, it is one dollar more expensive, and having an IDE hard drive in these ages is getting to be outdated.

Also I would check with others on the power supply, I haven't heard of them and it's pretty cheap for that much wattage. Even though it has 4 good reviews...that is usually right after the buyer purchases it.

Remember do you need windows? or a floppy drive?

I will switch out the HDD for the one you suggested. The psu was listed in the computer specs 101 for most of the general purpose machine builds. It does seem fairly cheap though.

I have windows and will pick up the floppy. I learned my lesson last time I built my computer without initially buying a floppy drive.

Flipper · 04-03-2006, 07:43 AM

Well, I mean the PSU could be fine, although I personally would spend the extra cash to not risk it, if you pick out another one you need at least 500W especially to power that video card of yours.

May I recommend one of these to stay not too far out of budget?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182009

and

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817159040

**ceewi1** · 04-03-2006, 12:07 PM

Let me suggest another PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817189003

The Hipro should be fine to power your system, but spending a little more wouldn't be a bad idea.

**apj101** · 04-03-2006, 01:08 PM

I think we can play with this config to get a much better layout, the delta between the 3700 and the 3800x2 is about $80 so i;m sure we can find that somewhere and bump this rig up to dual core.

firstly your spending way to much on the case, you can pick up a cheaper case and save $20, so now we are looking for $60. At the end of the day this machine is for playing and not for looking at

you can knock the gpu down a peg and save cash towards the cpu, overall you will see performance increase in gaming from this option, ditch the 7600gt pick up the x800gto
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102691
saving yourself about $70, so now we have a $10 surplus

I dont know if you intend to overclock or not so i'm going to assume you dont, with that in mind your ram choice is good

I also would point out that 80gb is kinda on the small size for a hdd, and that while sata is nice (esp sata II) the bandwidth of pata (ide) is not really fully used and so shouldn't discourage you from buying it. But if you choose 80gb then lets stick with that size for now, whilst flippers suggestion was valid we can do better, ditch the hdd in your budget and pick up a
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106
this is sata II(sata 300) and will allow you to benefit most, (sata I or sata 150, is not that much better that ata133). We have saved $2 here

(note this suggestion is linked to you agreeing to my motherboard suggestion below)

As for the psu, i agree we can do better. Ditch the hipro, giving us 48.50 to play with ($10 [surplus from the cpu] + $36.50 [surplus from the psu]+ $2 [surplus from the hdd]). And we need to be looking at picking up a
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817159040
this is $55, but is a good solid psu. Forget about wattage ratings on psus, what you need to be looking at is amps on the 12v rail(s), which this cpu has plenty of! So we need to find $6.5

Now to be honest you have a choice here, your selection of motherboard is not the best, i mean nf4 is good but you should be able to get in a nf4ultra in there. I highly recommend this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127222
the abit kn8 ultra, which after rebate is 80$ great value at the moment. Now this is $1 more than the board in your setup, which pushes our overspend up to $7.50. Now i hope that is a cost you can bear, otherwise i would recommend dropping the motherboard down to a slightly cheaper nf4 to keep in budget

Flipper · 04-03-2006, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apj101

I also would point out that 80gb is kinda on the small size for a hdd, and that while sata is nice (esp sata II) the bandwidth of pata (ide) is not really fully used and so shouldn't discourage you from buying it. But if you choose 80gb then lets stick with that size for now, whilst flippers suggestion was valid we can do better, ditch the hdd in your budget and pick up a
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106
this is sata II(sata 300) and will allow you to benefit most, (sata I or sata 150, is not that much better that ata133). We have saved $2 here

Isn't the one I suggested? Not too sure, also it isn't SATAII it is SATA150...good think it is backwards compatible

**apj101** · 04-03-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flipper

Isn't the one I suggested? Not too sure, also it isn't SATAII it is SATA150...good think it is backwards compatible

Sata II is another name for 'Sata 300' which is also known as 'sata 3.0' and 'sata 2'
Sata I is another name for 'Sata 150' which is also known as 'sata 1.5' or 'sata 1'

Flipper · 04-03-2006, 03:05 PM

I know that...I am saying you might mislead him, you said it was a SATAII hard drive while it was a SATAI hard drive, just saying incase you meant to pick out a different one.

**apj101** · 04-03-2006, 03:14 PM

your correct i did mean to pick a different one i meant to link to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145082
not to the WD.
Thank you for spotting that

@whiprush
i did not mean to link to that hard drive in my post the link should have gone to
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145082

i will not edit my orginal post so as not to confuse this anymore

04-03-2006, 07:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
whip-rush New Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 12	Look over this build before I put in the order Any glaring hardware issues before I put in the order with newegg? I posted a different config a week or so ago, but the budget has dropped since then, so no dual core or 7800, oh well. Total: 712.00 Processor:AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego 1GHz HT Socket 939 Processor Model ADA3700BNBOX - Retail Video Card: eVGA 256-P2-N553-AX Geforce 7600GT 256MB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail MOBO: ASUS A8N5X Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail HDD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 6L080P0 80GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133 Hard Drive - OEM Case: AMS Gmono CF-2029SW-S Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail PSU: HIPRO HP-P500W/TOP-500P5 ATX V2.01 500W Power Supply - OEM Ram: CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) - Retail DVD Drive: NEC 16X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE/ATAPI Model ND-3550A - OEM

04-03-2006, 07:06 AM	#2 (permalink)
Flipper Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 121	Get this hard drive instead, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106 Your motherboard supports it, it is one dollar more expensive, and having an IDE hard drive in these ages is getting to be outdated. Also I would check with others on the power supply, I haven't heard of them and it's pretty cheap for that much wattage. Even though it has 4 good reviews...that is usually right after the buyer purchases it. Remember do you need windows? or a floppy drive? __________________ dotOmega Forum System - It's whats for cool people. Too bad it's still in development :). 98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature

04-03-2006, 07:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Flipper Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 121	Well, I mean the PSU could be fine, although I personally would spend the extra cash to not risk it, if you pick out another one you need at least 500W especially to power that video card of yours. May I recommend one of these to stay not too far out of budget? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817182009 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817159040 __________________ dotOmega Forum System - It's whats for cool people. Too bad it's still in development :). 98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature

04-03-2006, 12:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
ceewi1 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 5,120	Let me suggest another PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817189003 The Hipro should be fine to power your system, but spending a little more wouldn't be a bad idea. __________________ CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600 / MOBO: Gigabyte 965P-DS3 / GPU: XFX 7900GT RAM: 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK / HDD: 1TB Total HDD / PSU: Antec NeoPower 480W Cheap PSUs - 2% of system costs, responsible for 28% of system deaths As Sealed Stick was removed, lost or damaged, it shall be out of warranty validity. - The "Warranty void if removed" sticker on numerous CoolerMaster PSUs. Useful PSU Guides

04-03-2006, 01:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
apj101 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Age: 26 Posts: 9,052	I think we can play with this config to get a much better layout, the delta between the 3700 and the 3800x2 is about $80 so i;m sure we can find that somewhere and bump this rig up to dual core. firstly your spending way to much on the case, you can pick up a cheaper case and save $20, so now we are looking for $60. At the end of the day this machine is for playing and not for looking at you can knock the gpu down a peg and save cash towards the cpu, overall you will see performance increase in gaming from this option, ditch the 7600gt pick up the x800gto http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814102691 saving yourself about $70, so now we have a $10 surplus I dont know if you intend to overclock or not so i'm going to assume you dont, with that in mind your ram choice is good I also would point out that 80gb is kinda on the small size for a hdd, and that while sata is nice (esp sata II) the bandwidth of pata (ide) is not really fully used and so shouldn't discourage you from buying it. But if you choose 80gb then lets stick with that size for now, whilst flippers suggestion was valid we can do better, ditch the hdd in your budget and pick up a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822135106 this is sata II(sata 300) and will allow you to benefit most, (sata I or sata 150, is not that much better that ata133). We have saved $2 here (note this suggestion is linked to you agreeing to my motherboard suggestion below) As for the psu, i agree we can do better. Ditch the hipro, giving us 48.50 to play with ($10 [surplus from the cpu] + $36.50 [surplus from the psu]+ $2 [surplus from the hdd]). And we need to be looking at picking up a http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817159040 this is $55, but is a good solid psu. Forget about wattage ratings on psus, what you need to be looking at is amps on the 12v rail(s), which this cpu has plenty of! So we need to find $6.5 Now to be honest you have a choice here, your selection of motherboard is not the best, i mean nf4 is good but you should be able to get in a nf4ultra in there. I highly recommend this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813127222 the abit kn8 ultra, which after rebate is 80$ great value at the moment. Now this is $1 more than the board in your setup, which pushes our overspend up to $7.50. Now i hope that is a cost you can bear, otherwise i would recommend dropping the motherboard down to a slightly cheaper nf4 to keep in budget Last edited by apj101; 04-03-2006 at 09:48 PM.

04-03-2006, 03:05 PM	#9 (permalink)
Flipper Silver Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: USA Posts: 121	I know that...I am saying you might mislead him, you said it was a SATAII hard drive while it was a SATAI hard drive, just saying incase you meant to pick out a different one. __________________ dotOmega Forum System - It's whats for cool people. Too bad it's still in development :). 98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature

04-03-2006, 03:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
apj101 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Age: 26 Posts: 9,052	your correct i did mean to pick a different one i meant to link to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145082 not to the WD. Thank you for spotting that @whiprush i did not mean to link to that hard drive in my post the link should have gone to http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822145082 i will not edit my orginal post so as not to confuse this anymore

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