PCI Express HELP, have I missed so much? Urgency

publiusdiamond · 04-10-2006, 07:31 PM

OK so I have an eMachines which I bought about this time last year. I've upgraded it quite a bit, but a new upgrade is about to come up so I can play Oblivion with more than 3 frames per second.
Need a new GPU. This computer has no AGP Slot. And, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't have a PCI-E slot, but I am not sure. What does a PCI Express slot look like? Is it the same as a PCI slot?
OK, lets put a different way. May last year I bought an XFX GeForce 5200. It's a PCI card...it doesn't say anything about PCI-Express on the box. Someone please confirm for me that this IS a PCI card and not a PCI-Express card.
Also, I have a very very small slot in the PC...its brown/black...what is this?
Finally, can a PCI-Express card go in a PCI slot? Are any cards still available (such as a 6800) in regular PCI format?
If all else fails...Can I just buy a new mobo?

Dr Studly · 04-10-2006, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

OK so I have an eMachines which I bought about this time last year. I've upgraded it quite a bit, but a new upgrade is about to come up so I can play Oblivion with more than 3 frames per second.
Need a new GPU. This computer has no AGP Slot. And, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't have a PCI-E slot, but I am not sure. What does a PCI Express slot look like? Is it the same as a PCI slot?
OK, lets put a different way. May last year I bought an XFX GeForce 5200. It's a PCI card...it doesn't say anything about PCI-Express on the box. Someone please confirm for me that this IS a PCI card and not a PCI-Express card.
Also, I have a very very small slot in the PC...its brown/black...what is this?
Finally, can a PCI-Express card go in a PCI slot? Are any cards still available (such as a 6800) in regular PCI format?
If all else fails...Can I just buy a new mobo?

take a pic of the inside of ur mobo andpost it here...

SlothX311 · 04-10-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

What does a PCI Express slot look like? Is it the same as a PCI slot?

its longer than a PCI slot, and more slender too......a standard PCI slot is usually white (depending on manufacturer, but your emachines will be white), whereas a PCI-E slot will usually be black (depending on manufacturer, but your emachines will be black)

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

May last year I bought an XFX GeForce 5200. It's a PCI card...it doesn't say anything about PCI-Express on the box. Someone please confirm for me that this IS a PCI card and not a PCI-Express card.

its either PCI or AGP, there is no PCI-E Geforce 5200

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

Also, I have a very very small slot in the PC...its brown/black...what is this?

Your prolly talking about PCI-E 4x or 1x (used for expansion cards, similar to PCI, but faster

)

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

Finally, can a PCI-Express card go in a PCI slot?

no

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

Are any cards still available (such as a 6800) in regular PCI format?

there are some, and theres always the GS versions of some of the GPU's that are available in PCI

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

If all else fails...Can I just buy a new mobo?

always

publiusdiamond · 04-10-2006, 07:58 PM

That at the bottom left is the "mysterious brown slot"
You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge, I've been in a coma since last June. Only recently got back into computer upgrading.
Another thing I found, cards with interfaces like this look like they would fit in one of my PCI slots.

SlothX311 · 04-10-2006, 08:06 PM

this is where a PCI-E or AGP (cant tell from the pic) would be if you had one

i cant tell from the picture, maybee if you take out the video card and then take a picture of it....

publiusdiamond · 04-10-2006, 08:10 PM

Thank you Sloth. I suppose the brown slot is really irrelevant as I've never seen a video card that would fit that.
A standard PCI version of the 6800 GS would be excellent...Are there any particular model names you could give me and or link me?
Thanks for your help.

SlothX311 · 04-10-2006, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

I suppose the brown slot is really irrelevant as I've never seen a video card that would fit that.

yeah there isnt one thats mainstream (there are some quatros), i think its going to be used to replace the PCI slot, similar to when ISA was replaced by PCI....but idk...

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Originally Posted by publiusdiamond

A standard PCI version of the 6800 GS would be excellent...Are there any particular model names you could give me and or link me?

the highest thing i could find on newegg was geforce 5500...

just a thought.....i would highly recommend just buying a new mobo, that supports the processor and ram that you have now, and then you can buy a faster video card.....

what CPU do you have, and what kind of RAM, i can find one for you

publiusdiamond · 04-10-2006, 08:20 PM

My CPU is a Pentium 4 2.93Ghz and the RAM is PC3200 (2x 256mb, 1x 512mb)

[-0MEGA-] · 04-10-2006, 08:23 PM

The 5700LE is the highest-end card for PCI, the 6800GS would be incompatible with your computer.

SlothX311 · 04-10-2006, 08:28 PM

Motherboard

Video Card

with the 478 cpu, you have a hard time finding a motherboard with PCI-E unless you wana spend like 150 bucks lol

i found you a 6600GT OC to make up for the AGP, but that card would be like amazing compared to what your running now

*EDIT* that motherboard is the best 478 for the money, its still got the intel 865pe chipset without the intel price

*EDIT*

04-10-2006, 07:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
publiusdiamond Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England Posts: 67	PCI Express HELP, have I missed so much? Urgency OK so I have an eMachines which I bought about this time last year. I've upgraded it quite a bit, but a new upgrade is about to come up so I can play Oblivion with more than 3 frames per second. Need a new GPU. This computer has no AGP Slot. And, as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't have a PCI-E slot, but I am not sure. What does a PCI Express slot look like? Is it the same as a PCI slot? OK, lets put a different way. May last year I bought an XFX GeForce 5200. It's a PCI card...it doesn't say anything about PCI-Express on the box. Someone please confirm for me that this IS a PCI card and not a PCI-Express card. Also, I have a very very small slot in the PC...its brown/black...what is this? Finally, can a PCI-Express card go in a PCI slot? Are any cards still available (such as a 6800) in regular PCI format? If all else fails...Can I just buy a new mobo?

04-10-2006, 07:58 PM	#4 (permalink)
publiusdiamond Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England Posts: 67	my mobo That at the bottom left is the "mysterious brown slot" You'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge, I've been in a coma since last June. Only recently got back into computer upgrading. Another thing I found, cards with interfaces like this look like they would fit in one of my PCI slots.

04-10-2006, 08:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
publiusdiamond Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England Posts: 67	Thank you Sloth. I suppose the brown slot is really irrelevant as I've never seen a video card that would fit that. A standard PCI version of the 6800 GS would be excellent...Are there any particular model names you could give me and or link me? Thanks for your help. __________________ Current Rig: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Gigabyte K8NMF-9 Maxtor 80Gb IDE HDD Stock 160Gb SATA HDD 1024mb RAM Ati X1600 Pro w00t

04-10-2006, 08:20 PM	#8 (permalink)
publiusdiamond Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: England Posts: 67	My CPU is a Pentium 4 2.93Ghz and the RAM is PC3200 (2x 256mb, 1x 512mb) __________________ Current Rig: AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Gigabyte K8NMF-9 Maxtor 80Gb IDE HDD Stock 160Gb SATA HDD 1024mb RAM Ati X1600 Pro w00t

04-10-2006, 08:23 PM	#9 (permalink)
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04-10-2006, 08:06 PM	#5 (permalink)
SlothX311 Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Canton, Ohio Age: 21 Posts: 705	this is where a PCI-E or AGP (cant tell from the pic) would be if you had one i cant tell from the picture, maybee if you take out the video card and then take a picture of it....

04-10-2006, 08:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
SlothX311 Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Canton, Ohio Age: 21 Posts: 705	Motherboard Video Card with the 478 cpu, you have a hard time finding a motherboard with PCI-E unless you wana spend like 150 bucks lol i found you a 6600GT OC to make up for the AGP, but that card would be like amazing compared to what your running now EDIT that motherboard is the best 478 for the money, its still got the intel 865pe chipset without the intel price EDIT

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