Computer Freezes randomly

wwfc_barmy_army · 05-23-2006, 05:03 PM

Well we went ahead and installed it anyways, unfortunatly this hasn't solved the feezing problem as around 10 mins into playing a game it froze up, we kept checking the CPU temperature while playing and it didn't go above 45 degrees. Any more ideas?

OvenMaster · 05-25-2006, 10:37 PM

thinks here
You sure the heatsink is solidly placed on the CPU, with thermal paste? I'm wondering if that temperature reading is too low.
Tom

wwfc_barmy_army · 05-25-2006, 10:47 PM

Yep, were 100% sure it's on properly, we have taken it off, cleaned it and replaced it with new paste three times.

The side of the case was off when that temperature was read, i expect it to be 5-10 degrees higher with the case side panel on.

We are going to check over the motherboard tomorrow for any bad capactors that we can see.

Can anyone suggest my next method of action? Even if that means replacing something?

Cheers.

OvenMaster · 05-26-2006, 04:18 AM

Okay, I'm gonna have to give it to more knowledgeable people here. I'm stumped too. Any takers? Sorry, my friend.

Tom

**Praetor** · 05-30-2006, 02:07 PM

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My temperatures are as follows (this is without the desk fan pointing in):

Is that idle or load? Im guessing idle. What are your load temperatures? (could be your voltages)

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We then purchased a new stick a ram and tried that on it's own, but it still froze up, so we put the other stick in with that on, and it still froze up. So today a new power supply came 500W this time compared the the 350W we had before, but guess what, it still froze up. Infact the only things we have in that are the same with what we started off with is the motherboard, processor, and the two hard drives.

So what types of memory are curreently in the system

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We have tried using a different IDE cable, although that doesn't explain why pointing a case fan into the case often stops it from freezing.

That means the source of the problem is temperature

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i ran a mem test today schedule from 7:30 to wen i get home from skool
it froze at 8:33

That will isolate you to most likely fauly memory followed by overheating t a bad motherboarder

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Are you 100% sure it won't screw up my pc even more?

Your problems are temperature based, while you can use the update (and you might as well), it wont fix your problems

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Well we went ahead and installed it anyways, unfortunatly this hasn't solved the feezing problem as around 10 mins into playing a game it froze up, we kept checking the CPU temperature while playing and it didn't go above 45 degrees. Any more ideas?

How are you checking? Exiting the game and looking? Alt-tabbing and looking? Thats enough to drop a handful of degrees. Also note that the sensors may be off. Also, it could be your videocard overheating (theres no way to check this short of a thermal probe)

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Yep, were 100% sure it's on properly, we have taken it off, cleaned it and replaced it with new paste three times.

Too much paste?

OvenMaster · 05-30-2006, 02:26 PM

*light bulb goes off over my head*
RAM temps too high? It's known to happen.
Tom

**Praetor** · 05-30-2006, 02:38 PM

Possible but doubtful ... PC3200 suggests by SPD which then means vDimm is 2.5-2.6 ish which wouldnt be enough to overheat ram unless there was aother serious problem.

05-25-2006, 10:37 PM	#12 (permalink)
OvenMaster VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Red Sox Nation Age: 49 Posts: 2,022	thinks here You sure the heatsink is solidly placed on the CPU, with thermal paste? I'm wondering if that temperature reading is too low. Tom __________________ Frankenbox III: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ * MOBO: Biostar K8M800 Micro AM2 * RAM: 2x1GB Kingston DDR2 667 HDD: WD 80GB Master, Seagate 320GB Slave * OPT: two Pioneer DVR-115DBK DVD burners PSU: Antec Basiq 500W * GPU: PNY GeForce FX5200 256MB AGP 8x * MON: ViewSonic LCD VA721 CASE: EvTek minitower * SND: Diamond Xtreme 5.1 * OS: XP Home SP2 * ROUTER: Linksys BEFSR41

05-26-2006, 04:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
OvenMaster VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Red Sox Nation Age: 49 Posts: 2,022	Okay, I'm gonna have to give it to more knowledgeable people here. I'm stumped too. Any takers? Sorry, my friend. Tom __________________ Frankenbox III: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ * MOBO: Biostar K8M800 Micro AM2 * RAM: 2x1GB Kingston DDR2 667 HDD: WD 80GB Master, Seagate 320GB Slave * OPT: two Pioneer DVR-115DBK DVD burners PSU: Antec Basiq 500W * GPU: PNY GeForce FX5200 256MB AGP 8x * MON: ViewSonic LCD VA721 CASE: EvTek minitower * SND: Diamond Xtreme 5.1 * OS: XP Home SP2 * ROUTER: Linksys BEFSR41

05-30-2006, 02:26 PM	#16 (permalink)
OvenMaster VIP Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Red Sox Nation Age: 49 Posts: 2,022	light bulb goes off over my head RAM temps too high? It's known to happen. Tom __________________ Frankenbox III: CPU: AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ * MOBO: Biostar K8M800 Micro AM2 * RAM: 2x1GB Kingston DDR2 667 HDD: WD 80GB Master, Seagate 320GB Slave * OPT: two Pioneer DVR-115DBK DVD burners PSU: Antec Basiq 500W * GPU: PNY GeForce FX5200 256MB AGP 8x * MON: ViewSonic LCD VA721 CASE: EvTek minitower * SND: Diamond Xtreme 5.1 * OS: XP Home SP2 * ROUTER: Linksys BEFSR41

05-30-2006, 02:38 PM	#17 (permalink)
Praetor Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 19,954	Possible but doubtful ... PC3200 suggests by SPD which then means vDimm is 2.5-2.6 ish which wouldnt be enough to overheat ram unless there was aother serious problem. __________________ ASUS P5K Premium WiFi-AP, Q6600@3.7 / ASUS P5ND, E6400@3.8 4GB OCz Platinum XTC 8500 / 4GB CorsairXMS2 6400 5x500GB Seagate 7200.10 / 2x500 Seagate 7200.10 OCz 8800GTX 768MB @ 630/800 / 2x Galaxy 8800GT SLI

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05-23-2006, 05:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
wwfc_barmy_army New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9	Well we went ahead and installed it anyways, unfortunatly this hasn't solved the feezing problem as around 10 mins into playing a game it froze up, we kept checking the CPU temperature while playing and it didn't go above 45 degrees. Any more ideas?

05-25-2006, 10:47 PM	#13 (permalink)
wwfc_barmy_army New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 9	Yep, were 100% sure it's on properly, we have taken it off, cleaned it and replaced it with new paste three times. The side of the case was off when that temperature was read, i expect it to be 5-10 degrees higher with the case side panel on. We are going to check over the motherboard tomorrow for any bad capactors that we can see. Can anyone suggest my next method of action? Even if that means replacing something? Cheers.