4gig limit

JamesBart · 06-07-2006, 07:37 PM

im with bt yahoo broadband and i have a limit of 4gig for download and i knwo for a fine fact that i have downloaded more than this. and they havent cut me off and i havent bee charged for it. does anyone know why this is? could they be waiting for me and then hit me with a charge or cancel my account, how does this work.

ive spoke to them before and they i asked out of curiosty what would happen if i downloaded to much and they said they would lock my account. could they have overlooked mine? any ideas? thanks!!!

Markware17 · 06-07-2006, 10:32 PM

I once worked for an mini-ISP that will remain nameless

and being a net admin I wasn't too concerned with people who maxed out their download cap if it was within reasonable limits. I would, however, pay close attention to people who blew past that cap and would then have someone notify them that they had exceeded their limit.

I wouldn't be too concerned as they should be courteous enough to call you if you’re going overboard. Hopefully your traffic is nothing that would be anything of concern in legal matters, but it's really not a set in stone cap meaning that once you hit it, right to the byte, you’re locked out. Most big ISPs are lenient on their caps unless you really over do it.

JamesBart · 06-07-2006, 10:38 PM

thats cool to here man but i think i may have went 6 gig over the limit. and thats why im concerned! so do they know what im downloading? or can they just see the traffick? i work as a vj and download videos, its all legit but i have downloaded a lot. see i find this strange. and to be honest im a bot scared aswell. i havent downloaded for a month or so i feel like someting is about to happen.

Markware17 · 06-07-2006, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 6071842

i havent downloaded for a month or so i feel like someting is about to happen.

Since the caps are reset monthly, I don't think you have anything to worry about since you haven't downloaded anything big in a month

.

I'm not too familiar with Yahoos policies but I guess they could monitor your traffic if they so decided to, but you would be a needle in a haystack so to say since you would really have to draw their attention to monitor you. If you are downloading all legit material, you don't have anything to worry about.

JamesBart · 06-07-2006, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Markware17

Since the caps are reset monthly, I don't think you have anything to worry about since you haven't downloaded anything big in a month

.

I'm not too familiar with Yahoos policies but I guess they could monitor your traffic if they so decided to, but you would be a needle in a haystack so to say since you would really have to draw their attention to monitor you. If you are downloading all legit material, you don't have anything to worry about.

thank you, ive paided hundreds of pounds for what ive downloaded and cant afford bills. i should hopefully be changing isp soon so i wont have to worry about it, but thanks for you time. i need some uncapped limit to be on the safe side, so can they see what im downloading? actaul content?

Markware17 · 06-07-2006, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 6071842

so can they see what im downloading? actaul content?

Feasibly, no. They would literally have to rebuild each packet that was transferred from the server you’re downloading from to your machine. All they see is the source and destination if even that. Some ISPs don't even bother to log everything since the logs would be far too large to manage.

JamesBart · 06-07-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Markware17

Feasibly, no. They would literally have to rebuild each packet that was transferred from the server you’re downloading from to your machine. All they see is the source and destination if even that. Some ISPs don't even bother to log everything since the logs would be far too large to manage.

Yeah that makes sense, i mean how many people do you think would be with BT yahoo. many i reckon. but yeah thats cool. i dont really get what they do. but its making ore sense now. thanks man!

so what wa sthe job like? didnt sound like you liked it? thanks man!

elmarcorulz · 06-07-2006, 11:19 PM

Chances are if they havent done anything, it was soft capped. NTL's 1mb line used to hard capped, so if you went a few MB over the limit they would phone you up to tell you not to do it.

JamesBart · 06-07-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elmarcorulz

Chances are if they havent done anything, it was soft capped. NTL's 1mb line used to hard capped, so if you went a few MB over the limit they would phone you up to tell you not to do it.

i see so because i havent went over by say 50gig or something stupid like that, they dont care? thats cool, im just trying to calm the download untill i get my new isp.

even a few mb? thats crazy like how many? 50 or so? thats well hard? whats the point of capping? is it just the business side? so that you may upgrade?

thanks for your time!!!

elmarcorulz · 06-07-2006, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6071842

i see so because i havent went over by say 50gig or something stupid like that, they dont care? thats cool, im just trying to calm the download untill i get my new isp.

even a few mb? thats crazy like how many? 50 or so? thats well hard? whats the point of capping? is it just the business side? so that you may upgrade?

thanks for your time!!!

Yea, they were strict with the 1mb people. but when they upped the speed of the 2mb and 3mb to 4 and 10mb, they upped the soft cap to 75GB /month. But they admitted the couldn't keep track of what people were doing and couldn't enforce the cap, so they've now scrapped the cap for every service, which is good.

TBH, i think it is more to do with business. They had some people that would og crazy and download upto 1TB a month on the soft cap (which is a crazy amount of download), and it was those that got phone calls and letters from them.

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06-07-2006, 10:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Markware17 Silver Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: I'm not sure exactly, they keep me locked up in some remote data center. Posts: 136	I once worked for an mini-ISP that will remain nameless and being a net admin I wasn't too concerned with people who maxed out their download cap if it was within reasonable limits. I would, however, pay close attention to people who blew past that cap and would then have someone notify them that they had exceeded their limit. I wouldn't be too concerned as they should be courteous enough to call you if you’re going overboard. Hopefully your traffic is nothing that would be anything of concern in legal matters, but it's really not a set in stone cap meaning that once you hit it, right to the byte, you’re locked out. Most big ISPs are lenient on their caps unless you really over do it.

06-07-2006, 10:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
JamesBart Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,372	thats cool to here man but i think i may have went 6 gig over the limit. and thats why im concerned! so do they know what im downloading? or can they just see the traffick? i work as a vj and download videos, its all legit but i have downloaded a lot. see i find this strange. and to be honest im a bot scared aswell. i havent downloaded for a month or so i feel like someting is about to happen.