Heres my xp security 'recipe'.

Jesse1984 · 06-09-2006, 01:22 PM

jayd, a trojan can be picked up on a daily basis by who? everyday web, email users who share photos, goto myspace, hotmail and review sites? or people visiting sites for cracks, porn, illegal downloads ect. ect. ?

jayd · 06-09-2006, 01:27 PM

Limewire (or any download site, whether mp3, music, videos)

Newsgroups

Grapevine

E.Mail

Unsafe Websites (the obvious)

IRC

Chat sites

To name a few. And chat sites are probably one of the primary places that this sort of activity takes place. The sad part to that is, 80% are not even
aware of it.

n00b9287 · 06-09-2006, 01:48 PM

I disagree with you Jayd, I am happy with real time protection from AVG and a scan of my PC using Ewido's online feature every couple of weeks. You can't get Virus' from media files so if you only download music etc then you have nothing to worrie about. The bulk of Trojans are files posing as keygen's and cracks etc for illegal software found on P2P an torrent sites. As for someone directly hacking your PC then.....well

it's not going to happen, maybe at worst you will take part in a DOS attack as a zombie computer but with AVG kept upto date and running from boot why be so paranoid?

BTW jayd, you asked for people to play critic and then argue and tell them they are wrong or call them kiddo, dosent that sound stupid?

jayd · 06-09-2006, 01:54 PM

Some of the very few, but most commonly used are:

• <anything>.com
• <anything>.exe
• <anything>.txt.vbs

There are no reasons whatsoever for the user to use any of these formats, unless their main priority is to infect the receivers computer. Period.

I can also assure you there is no reason a file should have a double extension. But that does'nt stop (ignorant) people falling victim who have no idea how to tell if a file has a double extension or not.

Whether you click a link in an e.mail, or click a link on a site, as simple as that.

And after the Trojan installs itself on your computer, it will then simply send a message from your computer to the hacker telling him the following information.

Username: (A name they call you)
IP Address: (Your IP address)
Online: (Your victim is online)

And it doesn’t matter if you are on dial up. The 'potential hacker' will automatically be notified when you log on to your computer. With that information, it is not a task to gain access to ones comp with a few clicks.

Oh, and critique with a respectful manner, or not at all.

Jesse1984 · 06-09-2006, 01:54 PM

nicely said n00b9287.. thats a good first post

n00b9287 · 06-09-2006, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayd

Some of the very few, but most commonly used are:

• <anything>.com
• <anything>.exe
• <anything>.txt.vbs

There are no reasons whatsoever for the user to use any of these formats, unless their main priority is to infect the receivers computer. Period.

I can also assure you there is no reason a file should have a double extension. But that does'nt stop (ignorant) people falling victim who have no idea how to tell if a file has a double extension or not.

Whether you click a link in an e.mail, or click a link on a site, as simple as that.

And after the Trojan installs itself on your computer, it will then simply send a message from your computer to the hacker telling him the following information.

Username: (A name they call you)
IP Address: (Your IP address)
Online: (Your victim is online)

And it doesn’t matter if you are on dial up. The 'potential hacker' will automatically be notified when you log on to your computer. With that information, it is not a task to gain access to ones comp with a few clicks.

Oh, and critique with a respectful manner, or not at all.

Gosh, so thats how these trojan things work

Jars · 06-09-2006, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00b9287

I You can't get Virus' from media files so if you only download music etc then you have nothing to worrie about.

I am sorry to bust your bubble, but you are wrong. The bulk of viruses,Trojans come from media files that you have Downloaded illiegaly. They also come from keygen sites, but most of the time it is a music file that has infected your computer.

Motoxrdude · 06-09-2006, 03:42 PM

So jayd, basicly, from what i am reading with your posts is, you download illegal music, visit porn sites, and download illegal cracks?

Jars · 06-09-2006, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motoxrdude

So jayd, basicly, from what i am reading with your posts is, you download illegal music, visit porn sites, and download illegal cracks?

haha, im sorry but that was a good laugh.

jayd · 06-09-2006, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Motoxrdude

So jayd, basicly, from what i am reading with your posts is, you download illegal music, visit porn sites, and download illegal cracks?

How about I personally hack you..?

06-09-2006, 01:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
Jesse1984 Silver Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Age: 24 Posts: 100	jayd, a trojan can be picked up on a daily basis by who? everyday web, email users who share photos, goto myspace, hotmail and review sites? or people visiting sites for cracks, porn, illegal downloads ect. ect. ? __________________ Case:Inwin Corp Desktop Mid Tower ATX Mobo: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 4400+ Dual Core @2.42Ghz Optical:Pioneer DVR-110D + Asus DRW-1608P3S RAM:Corsair CMX1024-3200-C2PRO (1GBx2)HDDs:2x74GB 10,000RPM Sata WD Raptor's Raid0 (system) + 400GB WD sata + 80GB WD + 200GB MaxtorGraphics: XFX 7900GT 256mb @520 Core 1.62Ghz Mem Display: 2x CMV 19" LCD - 1280x1024max, 8ms Refresh DVI/VGA in Sound: Creative AudigyZS2 Psu:XConnect 500watt Modular 3DMark05 = 8686 3DMark06 = 4786

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Jesse1984 Silver Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Victoria, Australia Age: 24 Posts: 100	nicely said n00b9287.. thats a good first post __________________ Case:Inwin Corp Desktop Mid Tower ATX Mobo: ASUS A8N32-SLI Deluxe CPU: AMD Athlon 64 4400+ Dual Core @2.42Ghz Optical:Pioneer DVR-110D + Asus DRW-1608P3S RAM:Corsair CMX1024-3200-C2PRO (1GBx2)HDDs:2x74GB 10,000RPM Sata WD Raptor's Raid0 (system) + 400GB WD sata + 80GB WD + 200GB MaxtorGraphics: XFX 7900GT 256mb @520 Core 1.62Ghz Mem Display: 2x CMV 19" LCD - 1280x1024max, 8ms Refresh DVI/VGA in Sound: Creative AudigyZS2 Psu:XConnect 500watt Modular 3DMark05 = 8686 3DMark06 = 4786

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06-09-2006, 01:27 PM	#22 (permalink)
jayd Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 23 Posts: 113	Limewire (or any download site, whether mp3, music, videos) Newsgroups Grapevine E.Mail Unsafe Websites (the obvious) IRC Chat sites To name a few. And chat sites are probably one of the primary places that this sort of activity takes place. The sad part to that is, 80% are not even aware of it.

06-09-2006, 01:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
n00b9287 Bronze Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 32	I disagree with you Jayd, I am happy with real time protection from AVG and a scan of my PC using Ewido's online feature every couple of weeks. You can't get Virus' from media files so if you only download music etc then you have nothing to worrie about. The bulk of Trojans are files posing as keygen's and cracks etc for illegal software found on P2P an torrent sites. As for someone directly hacking your PC then.....well it's not going to happen, maybe at worst you will take part in a DOS attack as a zombie computer but with AVG kept upto date and running from boot why be so paranoid? BTW jayd, you asked for people to play critic and then argue and tell them they are wrong or call them kiddo, dosent that sound stupid?

06-09-2006, 01:54 PM	#24 (permalink)
jayd Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 23 Posts: 113	Some of the very few, but most commonly used are: • <anything>.com • <anything>.exe • <anything>.txt.vbs There are no reasons whatsoever for the user to use any of these formats, unless their main priority is to infect the receivers computer. Period. I can also assure you there is no reason a file should have a double extension. But that does'nt stop (ignorant) people falling victim who have no idea how to tell if a file has a double extension or not. Whether you click a link in an e.mail, or click a link on a site, as simple as that. And after the Trojan installs itself on your computer, it will then simply send a message from your computer to the hacker telling him the following information. Username: (A name they call you) IP Address: (Your IP address) Online: (Your victim is online) And it doesn’t matter if you are on dial up. The 'potential hacker' will automatically be notified when you log on to your computer. With that information, it is not a task to gain access to ones comp with a few clicks. Oh, and critique with a respectful manner, or not at all.