Wire Trick

kingdt · 06-24-2006, 10:06 PM

I have read about the 'Wire Trick' but have been unable to find a tutorial on how to do it. I have a Biostar M7NCD motherboard (not pro) and wish to increase the voltage to my CPU (it is currently 1.65v) to see what I can overclock it to. Can anyone point me in the right direction or even better tell me exactly what to do please.

AMD Athlon XP, 1917 MHz (11.5 x 167) 2600+ Barton
Biostar M7NCD
nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200
Maxtor 10 300gb
Sony DRU-810A DVD-RW
2x 512mb PC3200 (200 MHz) DDR SDRAM

mrjack · 06-24-2006, 11:20 PM

To me it seems like you should be able to raise the FSB more, without raising the voltage. Since the 2600+ Barton core is around 1900MHz stock it should overclock more than just around 15MHz without changing the voltage.

Specs list of different AMD Athlon XP's using the Barton core.

underworld288 · 06-24-2006, 11:25 PM

in order to change the voltage you have to go into the BIOS, but like mrjack said you should't have to up the voltage just yet.

[-0MEGA-] · 06-24-2006, 11:33 PM

Some Athlon XP's are known not to be very "overclocker friendly", and some of them need significant voltage increases in order to see a fairly good overclock. However you should be able to raise the voltage in your BIOS, and you shouldnt have to manually tweak the board in order to raise it.

Clutch · 06-25-2006, 02:17 AM

Try and overclock without raising the vcore first.

I got my Athlon XP 2800+ (2083@166x12.5) up to an Athlon XP 3200+ (2200@200x11.0) without needing to raise my vcore at all.

Clutch · 06-25-2006, 02:17 AM

Try and overclock without raising the vcore first.

I got my Athlon XP 2800+ (2083@166x12.5) up to an Athlon XP 3200+ (2200@200x11.0) without needing to raise my vcore at all.

mrjack · 06-25-2006, 12:36 PM

I got my 1800+ (~1530-1533@133x11.5) up to an Athlon XP 2500+ (2040@177.7x11.5), 2562+ to be exact.

And all that without raising the Vcore at all.

The 2562+ was calculated using the following formula:

1500+(2041-1333)x1.5=2562

The nearest ratings to that used are 2500+ and 2600+, but it's "rounded" downwards.

A little bit of regedit and voila! The AMD Athlon XP 2562+

EDIT:

And here's a "p-rating" calculator for AMD Athlon XP's.
And the pin-mod guide.

kingdt · 06-25-2006, 02:07 PM

I cant change the voltage in the Bios for this motherboard (M7NCD). I increased the FSB to 180 which gave me 2080mhz but it kept crashing. Its running at 170fsb giving me 1955mhz at the mo and is ok. Will try to bump it up a little. Maybe i need a better heatsink and fan before i carry on??? Would still like to know how to do the wire trick.

[-0MEGA-] · 06-25-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdt

I cant change the voltage in the Bios for this motherboard (M7NCD). I increased the FSB to 180 which gave me 2080mhz but it kept crashing. Its running at 170fsb giving me 1955mhz at the mo and is ok. Will try to bump it up a little. Maybe i need a better heatsink and fan before i carry on??? Would still like to know how to do the wire trick.

That depends on te current temperatures. Either go into BIOS or download SpeedFan/Everest and tell us what your CPU temp is. If it's already on the low side, than a new heatsink/fan wouldnt make much of a difference.

mrjack · 06-25-2006, 02:19 PM

You should try raising the FSB 2-3MHz and boot up and see if you get any crashes. My comp could boot up with the FSB at 180 but it wasn't stable, 185 it wouldn't boot at all. Found that 177MHz was the stable point.

06-24-2006, 10:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
kingdt New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	Wire Trick I have read about the 'Wire Trick' but have been unable to find a tutorial on how to do it. I have a Biostar M7NCD motherboard (not pro) and wish to increase the voltage to my CPU (it is currently 1.65v) to see what I can overclock it to. Can anyone point me in the right direction or even better tell me exactly what to do please. AMD Athlon XP, 1917 MHz (11.5 x 167) 2600+ Barton Biostar M7NCD nVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Maxtor 10 300gb Sony DRU-810A DVD-RW 2x 512mb PC3200 (200 MHz) DDR SDRAM

06-24-2006, 11:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
mrjack VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Finland Age: 17 Posts: 2,322	To me it seems like you should be able to raise the FSB more, without raising the voltage. Since the 2600+ Barton core is around 1900MHz stock it should overclock more than just around 15MHz without changing the voltage. Specs list of different AMD Athlon XP's using the Barton core. __________________ Main rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3GHz \| MSI P7N Zilent 2x2048Mb OCZ Titanium 800MHz DDR2 Samsung Spinpoint T166 320Gb SATAII Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250Gb SATAII Western Digital Caviar SE 160Gb SATAII MSI NX8800GT OC 512Mb @ 660MHz/950MHz Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio \| Antec Truepower Trio 550W Last edited by mrjack; 06-24-2006 at 11:22 PM.

06-24-2006, 11:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
underworld288 Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Glen Burnie, MD Age: 17 Posts: 431	in order to change the voltage you have to go into the BIOS, but like mrjack said you should't have to up the voltage just yet. __________________ Sound System: Altec Lansing 4.1 Surround Sound RAM: 2 GB (DDR2 - 800) HDD: 420Gb Hard Drive OS: Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy (32-bit) GPU: Foxconn GeForce 8800GTS (628/983) CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.66GHz MOBO: MSI P6N SLI-FI

06-25-2006, 12:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
mrjack VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Finland Age: 17 Posts: 2,322	I got my 1800+ (~1530-1533@133x11.5) up to an Athlon XP 2500+ (2040@177.7x11.5), 2562+ to be exact. And all that without raising the Vcore at all. The 2562+ was calculated using the following formula: 1500+(2041-1333)x1.5=2562 The nearest ratings to that used are 2500+ and 2600+, but it's "rounded" downwards. A little bit of regedit and voila! The AMD Athlon XP 2562+ EDIT: And here's a "p-rating" calculator for AMD Athlon XP's. And the pin-mod guide. __________________ Main rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3GHz \| MSI P7N Zilent 2x2048Mb OCZ Titanium 800MHz DDR2 Samsung Spinpoint T166 320Gb SATAII Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250Gb SATAII Western Digital Caviar SE 160Gb SATAII MSI NX8800GT OC 512Mb @ 660MHz/950MHz Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio \| Antec Truepower Trio 550W Last edited by mrjack; 06-25-2006 at 01:13 PM.

06-25-2006, 02:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
mrjack VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Finland Age: 17 Posts: 2,322	You should try raising the FSB 2-3MHz and boot up and see if you get any crashes. My comp could boot up with the FSB at 180 but it wasn't stable, 185 it wouldn't boot at all. Found that 177MHz was the stable point. __________________ Main rig: Intel Core 2 Duo E7200 @ 3GHz \| MSI P7N Zilent 2x2048Mb OCZ Titanium 800MHz DDR2 Samsung Spinpoint T166 320Gb SATAII Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250Gb SATAII Western Digital Caviar SE 160Gb SATAII MSI NX8800GT OC 512Mb @ 660MHz/950MHz Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio \| Antec Truepower Trio 550W

06-24-2006, 11:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
[-0MEGA-] Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 19 Posts: 26,400	Some Athlon XP's are known not to be very "overclocker friendly", and some of them need significant voltage increases in order to see a fairly good overclock. However you should be able to raise the voltage in your BIOS, and you shouldnt have to manually tweak the board in order to raise it.

06-25-2006, 02:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
Clutch banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 572	Try and overclock without raising the vcore first. I got my Athlon XP 2800+ (2083@166x12.5) up to an Athlon XP 3200+ (2200@200x11.0) without needing to raise my vcore at all.

06-25-2006, 02:17 AM	#6 (permalink)
Clutch banned Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 19 Posts: 572	Try and overclock without raising the vcore first. I got my Athlon XP 2800+ (2083@166x12.5) up to an Athlon XP 3200+ (2200@200x11.0) without needing to raise my vcore at all.

06-25-2006, 02:07 PM	#8 (permalink)
kingdt New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3	I cant change the voltage in the Bios for this motherboard (M7NCD). I increased the FSB to 180 which gave me 2080mhz but it kept crashing. Its running at 170fsb giving me 1955mhz at the mo and is ok. Will try to bump it up a little. Maybe i need a better heatsink and fan before i carry on??? Would still like to know how to do the wire trick.

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