Condensation

Arm_Pit · 07-05-2006, 08:10 AM

I am thinking of making a water cooling system(May go with DIY, seems like it would be a cool project, and I could make a guide for it on the internet if it turns out well.)

My question is, In water cooling what stops condensation from happening and ruining the computer parts? It seems like it would be a problem. Thanks.

Slackr89 · 07-05-2006, 08:35 AM

Depends on humidity levels and temperature of the room. If the temp is cooled then water vapour changes into liquid. Water cooling systems should not create condenstation because they are normally at room temperature. so there really is not too much too worry about condensation forming on the cables etc.

Also some water cooling systems come with a temperature control to protect against condensation and over-cooling.

thealmightyone · 07-05-2006, 08:38 AM

Unless the water-cooling system loops through a freezer, I can't see you having condensation problems.

Slackr89 · 07-05-2006, 08:40 AM

^^ =p not a bad idea have a PSU going through a freezer...it would take care of over-heating... lol

Arm_Pit · 07-05-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Slackr89

^^ =p not a bad idea have a PSU going through a freezer...it would take care of over-heating... lol

I thought of it as one of my DIY plans, I have a Mini fride(also with a small freezer sectrion on the top) next to my next. My only idea was to have a massive coil run though it. I didn't know how I would seal and insulate where i made the holes for the tubes to go in.

I quickly scrached that plan for many reasons.

My thought about the condensation was, that night tempatures and room tempatures vary extreamly, and air warms(and cools) much faster then water.

Thanks for your replys, looking forward to here more input.

thealmightyone · 07-05-2006, 02:12 PM

No, WATER cools and warms faster than air, as water is denser than air. That's why water cooling is so popular. You still need air to get the heat out of the water, hence the nice big 3x120mm fan radiators you can slap on the top of your computer.

Just get a mini fridge or freezer, and put the radiator in there. Place, I dunno, about an inch from the bottom. It heats the cool air, the hot air rises, and the cool air at the top falls down to be reheated, so there's no need for fans.

Arm_Pit · 07-05-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by thealmightyone

No, WATER cools and warms faster than air, as water is denser than air. That's why water cooling is so popular. You still need air to get the heat out of the water, hence the nice big 3x120mm fan radiators you can slap on the top of your computer.

Just get a mini fridge or freezer, and put the radiator in there. Place, I dunno, about an inch from the bottom. It heats the cool air, the hot air rises, and the cool air at the top falls down to be reheated, so there's no need for fans.

I've always found it easier to heat air then water....

How would i get the raddiator in the frigde without drilling a hole in it? then once im ther it would be extrealy difficuly to insulate and seal that hole so I dont get air loss from it.

[-0MEGA-] · 07-05-2006, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Arm_Pit

I've always found it easier to heat air then water....

Exactly, it takes alot more heat to warm up water than air, so the water would be cooler when it passes through the heatsink.

Arm_Pit · 07-05-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by [-0MEGA-]

Exactly, it takes alot more heat to warm up water than air, so the water would be cooler when it passes through the heatsink.

I know, I was replying to "healmightyone" who said water heats and cools faster then air, when its the otehr way around.

What I was thinking though, was from affternoon to night, when im not usnig my computer much but its still on, and the tempature lowers radidly, or mourning to afternoon when the tempature raises rapidly, just making sure there owuldn;t be any problem with condensation there. temps change quickly around where i live.

thealmightyone · 07-05-2006, 07:14 PM

No-one can say for definate you won't have condensation problems. It depends on both temperature and humidity of the air.

If you want to be REALLY sure, then check your LOCAL weather, and look for the DEWPOINT. This value is the temperature that the water vapor in the air will begin to condense. But, the water flowing through the pipes is always going to be warmer than the outside air, so it's HIGHLY unlikely the heatsink is going to suffer from condensation.

Sidenote: It is a FACT that water conducts heat much better than air. Now, some company needs to manke a minature version of a zalman cooler that can be used in a water-cooling set-up.

07-05-2006, 08:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
Arm_Pit banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,299	Condensation - watercooling I am thinking of making a water cooling system(May go with DIY, seems like it would be a cool project, and I could make a guide for it on the internet if it turns out well.) My question is, In water cooling what stops condensation from happening and ruining the computer parts? It seems like it would be a problem. Thanks.

07-05-2006, 08:35 AM	#2 (permalink)
Slackr89 Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Age: 19 Posts: 78	Depends on humidity levels and temperature of the room. If the temp is cooled then water vapour changes into liquid. Water cooling systems should not create condenstation because they are normally at room temperature. so there really is not too much too worry about condensation forming on the cables etc. Also some water cooling systems come with a temperature control to protect against condensation and over-cooling. __________________ Computer Lie #1: You'll never use all that disk space. Computer Lie #2: That's more RAM than I'll ever need. Computer Lie #3: Oh yeah, it's compatible with everything. Computer Lie #4: There's no harm in trying - nothing can go wrong. Computer Lie #5: The manual explains everything.

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07-05-2006, 02:12 PM	#6 (permalink)
thealmightyone Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: York, UK Age: 21 Posts: 1,000	No, WATER cools and warms faster than air, as water is denser than air. That's why water cooling is so popular. You still need air to get the heat out of the water, hence the nice big 3x120mm fan radiators you can slap on the top of your computer. Just get a mini fridge or freezer, and put the radiator in there. Place, I dunno, about an inch from the bottom. It heats the cool air, the hot air rises, and the cool air at the top falls down to be reheated, so there's no need for fans. __________________ E8200 @ 3.576GHz with GA-P35-DS3L 2900 Pro, flashed to XT, oc-ed to 850/1860. Crucial Ballistix Tracers PC2-8500 2GB Enermax Modular 620W Creative Audigy 4 2x Seagate Barracuda 250GB Jeantech Nitro case, XP Pro and 19" LCD Last edited by thealmightyone; 07-05-2006 at 02:21 PM.

07-05-2006, 07:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
thealmightyone Diamond Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: York, UK Age: 21 Posts: 1,000	No-one can say for definate you won't have condensation problems. It depends on both temperature and humidity of the air. If you want to be REALLY sure, then check your LOCAL weather, and look for the DEWPOINT. This value is the temperature that the water vapor in the air will begin to condense. But, the water flowing through the pipes is always going to be warmer than the outside air, so it's HIGHLY unlikely the heatsink is going to suffer from condensation. Sidenote: It is a FACT that water conducts heat much better than air. Now, some company needs to manke a minature version of a zalman cooler that can be used in a water-cooling set-up. __________________ E8200 @ 3.576GHz with GA-P35-DS3L 2900 Pro, flashed to XT, oc-ed to 850/1860. Crucial Ballistix Tracers PC2-8500 2GB Enermax Modular 620W Creative Audigy 4 2x Seagate Barracuda 250GB Jeantech Nitro case, XP Pro and 19" LCD

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