What WINDOWS is not?

Verrona · 12-14-2004, 08:01 PM

I said Windows was created on Linux workservers... not running on them.

The run C to program windows!!!

**Praetor** · 12-14-2004, 09:18 PM

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I said Windows was created on Linux workservers... not running on them.
The run C to program windows!!!

1. Lets get some actual documented proof of this ... as a general rule, when making wild (and extremely board) comments like that, your credibility is severely suspect unless some reputable and documented proof is provided. You and i both know this so lets separate fact from speculation

2. Not all of Windows is C code and as such, by direct inference, Windows could not have been natively compiled by the Linux C compiler.

3. A course in compilers will teach you that the role of a compiler is to take some source, say

PHP Code:


			
#include <stdio.h>

int main(void){

    printf ("This is C code of some sort\n");

    return 0;

}

And translate it to work on both (a) the present hardware platform (say IA32) and (b) the operating environment (say W32 or linux) cuz you see, C-compilers, unlike platform independent ones such as the Java compiler, write and optimize the source code for a given platform (stuff like WINE and VirtualPC are anomalous conditions as far as compilers are concerned). What does this mean? If it compiles under a given operating system and hardware platform, then it will run under that platform. Naturally this is what Cromwell has been saying (as well as my earlier post to a much less focused degree).

4. Again, i reiterate that its somewhat important to provide either proof or some degree of structured logic or reasoning behind such broad (and evidently/apprently) inconsistent claims.

**Cromewell** · 12-14-2004, 09:19 PM

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I said Windows was created on Linux workservers... not running on them.

Ok first, I know Windows is written in C/C++. That is why a new buffer overrun virus/minor irritant seems to come out weekly. Linux was written in C/C++ as well, so then I could say the new Linux distros are created on a Windows machine but I'd be wrong.

Now I said Windows was not created on a Linux station because the Linux compilers create a program that will run on a Unix based system. Just like a W32 C/C++ compiler will create a W32 program not a Unix executable.

**Praetor** · 12-14-2004, 09:23 PM

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Ok first, I know Windows is written in C/C++. That is why a new buffer overrun virus/minor irritant seems to come out weekly

LOL

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Linux was written in C/C++ as well, so then I could say the new Linux distros are created on a Windows machine but I'd be wrong.

But but but but....

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Now I said Windows was not created on a Linux station because the Linux compilers create a program that will run on a Unix based system. Just like a W32 C/C++ compiler will create a W32 program not a Unix executable.

I think hes getting confused over the link between source and compilation ... source is simply text and as such is platform independent (i.e., if you had the source for windows as C/C++ you prolly could compile it under linux ... of course not all of it is C/C++ and the fact that you dont have the source present themselves as minor problems). So essentially, just because the source is in C/C++ doesnt mean the final compilation is linux based. :rollseyes:

Lorand · 12-14-2004, 09:28 PM

Have a look on the Windows98 source code and everything will be crystal clear: http://www.siliconglen.com/jokes/windows.html

**Cromewell** · 12-14-2004, 10:03 PM

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I think hes getting confused over the link between source and compilation ... source is simply text and as such is platform independent (i.e., if you had the source for windows as C/C++ you prolly could compile it under linux ... of course not all of it is C/C++ and the fact that you dont have the source present themselves as minor problems). So essentially, just because the source is in C/C++ doesnt mean the final compilation is linux based. :rollseyes:

I know that too

but only a dingus would write the source on a linux machine then transfer it to compile

geranimo:// · 12-14-2004, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorand

Have a look on the Windows98 source code and everything will be crystal clear: http://www.siliconglen.com/jokes/windows.html

iight, im a total n00b at this, but that isnt serious is it?

"if (still_not_crashed)"

Lorand · 12-14-2004, 11:18 PM

My favorite is this:

Code:

if (system_ok())
crash(to_dos_prompt);

**SFR** · 12-14-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by geranimo://

iight, im a total n00b at this, but that isnt serious is it?

"if (still_not_crashed)"

lol

are you serious?

Verrona · 12-15-2004, 10:24 AM

K i'll let this drop .... for now until i find evidence.

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12-14-2004, 09:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Lorand VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Bucharest Age: 41 Posts: 3,042	Have a look on the Windows98 source code and everything will be crystal clear: http://www.siliconglen.com/jokes/windows.html