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Old 07-11-2006, 09:29 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Can Viruses actually damage your PC?

can viruses damage your PC physically?

eg, can it damage the actual parts of your pc?

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Old 07-11-2006, 10:12 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Yes some can. Like the CIH Chernoybl virus would fry the BIOS chip on the motherboard, and if that's destroyed the computer's worthless unless you were a damn good solderer.
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Old 07-11-2006, 10:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes some can. Like the CIH Chernoybl virus would fry the BIOS chip on the motherboard, and if that's destroyed the computer's worthless unless you were a damn good solderer.
Not the whole computer... Just the motherboard.

But you shouldn't have to worry about that virus, because there should be Anti-Virus Updates to prevent it from executing
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Yes some can. Like the CIH Chernoybl virus would fry the BIOS chip on the motherboard, and if that's destroyed the computer's worthless unless you were a damn good solderer.
Wow now i didnt know that


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you shouldn't get an explosion though! lol.
The New viruese are getting worst and worst. Darn! they are disgusted!
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Old 07-12-2006, 04:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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they are? damnn, well i can careless, cause i have about 5 programs on my computers, protecting me.
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Some can really mess up your harddrive, and even survive formatting. Others i have heard can mess with BIOS features and cause the computer to overhet, etc. But they are usually targeted, and very specific.
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yes this is true, my friend showed me a website called the black gate something. He is a hacker and got a pass to it. We hooked up a old laptop of his and he sent the virus to his email address.......he then checked his email with the old laptop...then after 2 hours of it running....all of a sudden we hear it cut off.......so we go over there and try to turn it back on....nothing...turned out psu had overheated....his plan had worked and I have never again opened another email from him.
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But you shouldn't have to worry about that virus, because there should be Anti-Virus Updates to prevent it from executing
It mostly only affected the motherboards based off the Intel 440xx chipsets.
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Old 07-15-2006, 04:30 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Like the CIH Chernoybl virus would fry the BIOS chip on the motherboard
Many of the old BIOSes from the age of that virus, it's very hardware specific, so it wouldn't affect new soldered ones, but many from that era were the good old large pin insert and pry out kind of BIOS chips, I remember I used to mod those BIOSes a few years back.

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That's why I believe it's best to do as much as you can off of Windows.

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Some can really mess up your harddrive, and even survive formatting.
Yep, they're called boot sector viruses, they get themselves hidden in the MBR, and they can do damage to even a Windows re-install, such as messing with llsas (spelling?), right off the bad. Usually they're code is only Windows specific, so it generally needs and OS, and Windows at that to do it's deed. Of course, proper tools can clean the MBR completely. There's also a virus that waits until a machine is like 5 minutes idle, then starts to absolutely grind on the hdd for wear and tear, runs 100% CPU so it wears down the fans and everything, and can sometimes do heat damage. It also turns off, IIRC, the Windows ACPI services to manage temp shutdowns.
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Others i have heard can mess with BIOS features and cause the computer to overhet, etc. But they are usually targeted, and very specific.
Yes, very specific, down to specific motherboard models nowadays, because of the complex architecture of motherboards these days. Many of these fake BIOS hacking sites, actually have BIOS viruses targeted to the specific model you download, basically, it comes down to the BIOS, if this BIOS is listed for these three boards, all 3 of them could be affected. BIOS was not designed for the age of virus, sadly we keep using it, a move to EFI would really be beneficial to the PC world. We could use all of it's advanced features and technologies, as well as it's built from the ground up with great security.
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