Bobo

Please read this conversation (or at least skim it to get the idea, because it is long) and make your opinion on who is right

At the same time, have a good laugh.

btw Bobo6374 is me, monkeysims123 is monkeysims, Encore4More is himself, TOOTheOtherOne is The_Other_One, and j O 19 8 78 0 is JP198780


Bobo6374(10:00:17 PM): who is here?
monkeysims123(10:00:22 PM): me and encore
Bobo6374(10:00:25 PM): ahhh....\
Bobo6374(10:00:30 PM): well i don't have much time
Encore4More(10:00:35 PM): lol
monkeysims123(10:00:35 PM): bobo, tell encore that 4gb is an overkill
Encore4More(10:00:39 PM): lol
Encore4More(10:00:42 PM): 4gb is overkill
Encore4More(10:00:44 PM): right now
Bobo6374(10:00:46 PM): 4gb is total overkill
Encore4More(10:00:46 PM): dude
monkeysims123(10:00:52 PM): and will be when vista comes
Bobo6374(10:00:56 PM): and by the time it will be needed, the rest of the computer will be crap
Encore4More(10:00:58 PM): OMG
monkeysims123(10:01:17 PM): vista is going to be reliant on more than ram
Encore4More(10:01:18 PM): listen people freaked out when they heard of 2GB harddrives
Encore4More(10:01:31 PM): only 8 years ago
Encore4More(10:01:40 PM): in 8 years, we got 250 times as good
monkeysims123(10:01:47 PM): what the hell do harddrives have to do with ram?
Encore4More(10:01:54 PM): fine
Bobo6374(10:01:58 PM): yeah and did the motherboards, ram, and video cards from 8 years ago survive until now>?
Bobo6374(10:02:01 PM): no, i didn't think so
Encore4More(10:02:06 PM): no
Encore4More(10:02:18 PM): but my mobo came stocked with 32MB ram
Encore4More(10:02:23 PM): and is upgradable to 512
Encore4More(10:02:29 PM): a ram amount still used today
Encore4More(10:02:36 PM): who is the new dude?
Bobo6374(10:03:08 PM): in 3 years, when 4gb will be standard, the ram will be running atlike 800mhz, at which point you would have to upgrade the rest of thestuff to have current ram
Bobo6374(10:03:19 PM): or you could just get 4gb in that time, which the motherboard still supports
Encore4More(10:03:32 PM): in 3 years the guy is gona build a new Puter
Encore4More(10:03:37 PM): ok, my P3 system
Encore4More(10:03:40 PM): i still use
Encore4More(10:03:42 PM): to this day
Encore4More(10:03:52 PM): mainly because i don't have the currency to buy a new system
Encore4More(10:04:00 PM): but it was manufatured in 2000
Encore4More(10:04:05 PM): actually 1999 i think
Encore4More(10:04:20 PM): it cam stock with 32MB of ram
Bobo6374(10:04:22 PM): if the guy is going to biuld a new computer in 3 years, then whatis the point in making it easier to upgrade to something that he willnever need?
Encore4More(10:04:37 PM): he would upgrade late to mid next year
Encore4More(10:04:39 PM): hold on
Encore4More(10:04:41 PM): im not done
Bobo6374(10:04:43 PM): exactly, to 2gb
Encore4More(10:05:00 PM): if u read
Bobo6374(10:05:06 PM): i don't read
monkeysims123(10:05:11 PM): me niether
monkeysims123(10:05:13 PM): neither
Bobo6374(10:05:18 PM): :-D
Encore4More(10:05:22 PM): u would see that mid next year he upgrades to 4gb
Encore4More(10:05:28 PM): but that is only if u read
Bobo6374(10:05:31 PM): why would he?
monkeysims123(10:05:39 PM): he wont need it
Encore4More(10:05:41 PM): BECAUSE did u look at the chart
Encore4More(10:05:44 PM): and see how fast
Encore4More(10:05:47 PM): ram progresses
monkeysims123(10:05:50 PM): WHAT CHART!!!!!!1
Bobo6374(10:05:53 PM): i don't give a shit about the chart
Encore4More(10:05:54 PM): lol
Bobo6374(10:05:57 PM): even tho there isn't one
Encore4More(10:06:00 PM): u didn't read
Encore4More(10:06:08 PM): did u look at my articles?
Encore4More(10:06:13 PM): i researched?
Encore4More(10:06:15 PM): did u?
Encore4More(10:06:24 PM): did u research?
monkeysims123(10:06:25 PM): no we dont read your articles cause they're wrong most of the time
Bobo6374(10:06:27 PM): next year, having 4gb isn't going to do diddlycrap if he still has a 7900gt and that processor
monkeysims123(10:06:40 PM): thank you
Bobo6374(10:06:45 PM): we aren't talking about articles and their relevance, we are talking about the balancedness of the system
Encore4More(10:06:49 PM): he would upgrade...
Encore4More(10:06:55 PM): yes balanced
Encore4More(10:07:01 PM): i am using my system as an anology
monkeysims123(10:07:05 PM): he wont need to upgrade!
Bobo6374(10:07:07 PM): no, having 4gb with those parts isn't balanced
Bobo6374(10:07:20 PM): we should have praetor in this
monkeysims123(10:07:24 PM): lol
Bobo6374(10:07:28 PM): just to see what he would say
Encore4More(10:07:28 PM): let me use my system, because it is a relic of the past...
Encore4More(10:07:32 PM): n0ow let met tlk
monkeysims123(10:07:34 PM): i can get the_other_one
Bobo6374(10:07:41 PM): exactly why you shouldn't be using it, because it is a relic of the past
Encore4More(10:07:47 PM): i will get the other 1
Encore4More(10:08:18 PM): hey
Encore4More(10:08:19 PM): wait
Encore4More(10:08:22 PM): let me ask him first
Encore4More(10:08:54 PM): do you think 4GB ram will be used at then end of next year, in gaming systems with vista? judging by how RAM has progressed?
Bobo6374(10:08:56 PM): lol...fighting over who gets him
Bobo6374(10:09:08 PM): nonono that isn't the question
Encore4More(10:09:13 PM): yes
Encore4More(10:09:14 PM): it is
Encore4More(10:09:17 PM): the quiestion
Bobo6374(10:09:26 PM): it could be used, of course, but the thing is that it won't be good in that system
Encore4More(10:09:33 PM): o it wont be
monkeysims123(10:09:42 PM): not with that cpu and video card
Encore4More(10:09:45 PM): that is why he has an AM2 mobo that is xtremely upgradable
monkeysims123(10:10:03 PM): just about every mobo will support 4gb
monkeysims123(10:10:13 PM): does*
Encore4More(10:10:14 PM): that isn't why
Encore4More(10:10:25 PM): it is upgradable because it supports AM3
TOOTheOtherOne(10:10:26 PM): I ran vista on a system with 1G without any problems, and my current system has never used over 1G of memory. So no, I see no reason they'll need 4G
Encore4More(10:10:37 PM): i ran XP
Encore4More(10:10:40 PM): with 256mb
Encore4More(10:10:42 PM): no problem
monkeysims123(10:10:43 PM): thank you T_O_o'
Encore4More(10:10:48 PM): how come we have 2gb?
TOOTheOtherOne(10:10:50 PM): I ran XP with 64M
Encore4More(10:10:51 PM): now
Bobo6374(10:10:54 PM): he should start now with 2x512, to have dual channel, then laterhe could add another 1gb or another 2gb and still be in dual channel
monkeysims123(10:11:01 PM): right
monkeysims123(10:11:07 PM): no 1gb stick encore
monkeysims123(10:11:14 PM): 2*512
Encore4More(10:11:17 PM): monkeysims123: bobo, tell encore that 4gb is an overkill
Encore4More(10:11:18 PM): Encore4More:do you think 4GB ram will be used at then end of next year, in gaming systems with vista? judging by how RAM has progressed?
Bobo6374(10:11:20 PM): to have a total of either 2gb or 3gb, if he really needs that much in the future
Encore4More(10:11:20 PM): huh?
Bobo6374(10:11:37 PM): i was responding to my other post
Bobo6374(10:11:56 PM): he should start now with 2x512, to have dual channel, then laterhecould add another 1gb or another 2gb and still be in dual channelto have a total of either 2gb or 3gb, if he really needs that much in the futu
Bobo6374(10:12:04 PM): that is what i was trying to say but you type too fast
Encore4More(10:12:06 PM): Encore4More:do you think 4GB ram will be used at then end of next year, in gaming systems with vista? judging by how RAM has progressed?
Bobo6374(10:12:12 PM): no
monkeysims123(10:12:14 PM): NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Encore4More(10:12:16 PM): monkeysims123: bobo, tell encore that 4gb is an overkill
Encore4More(10:12:17 PM): Bobo6374: nonono that isn't the question
Encore4More(10:12:28 PM): wait wait
Bobo6374(10:12:33 PM): it is the question now, but not the original question
Encore4More(10:12:58 PM): wait what is the question now and what is the original question?
Bobo6374(10:13:11 PM): i don't even know, you started the whole thing
monkeysims123(10:13:31 PM): you should know your own question
Encore4More(10:13:53 PM): actually monkeysims did...
Encore4More(10:13:53 PM): lol
Bobo6374(10:13:54 PM): we first started on whether he should get 2x512 or 1x1gb
Bobo6374(10:14:03 PM): then we went to the balancedness of the system
Encore4More(10:14:08 PM): yes
Bobo6374(10:14:12 PM): and now whether or not 4gb will be used by next year
Encore4More(10:14:17 PM): yes
Bobo6374(10:14:27 PM): and we haven't answered any of them
monkeysims123(10:14:29 PM): but it wont nesicarlly be neded
monkeysims123(10:14:31 PM): needed
TOOTheOtherOne(10:14:37 PM): People, 2G isn't even needed now, why on earth would 4G be required?
Bobo6374(10:14:41 PM): exactly
monkeysims123(10:14:45 PM): correct
Encore4More(10:14:46 PM): 2g?
Encore4More(10:14:47 PM): yes
monkeysims123(10:14:52 PM): 512mb is good enough
Encore4More(10:14:53 PM): 1g lags in BF2
Encore4More(10:15:01 PM): WE ARE TALIIING ABOUT A GAMING SYSTEM
Encore4More(10:15:02 PM): lol
Bobo6374(10:15:02 PM): with what system?
Bobo6374(10:15:12 PM): what system lags in bf2 with 1gb?
TOOTheOtherOne(10:15:19 PM): Agreed... therea re many other factors than just RAM causing lags
monkeysims123(10:15:27 PM): gpu, cpu
Bobo6374(10:15:32 PM): hdd
Bobo6374(10:15:40 PM): (not as big a factor of course)
Encore4More(10:15:40 PM): 3800+ X2 &7600GT
Encore4More(10:15:41 PM): 1gb
Encore4More(10:15:43 PM): dualchannel
Bobo6374(10:16:00 PM): but he will have a 7900, not a 7600
Bobo6374(10:16:06 PM): there is a big difference between the 2
Encore4More(10:16:10 PM): still, new games are comming out
Bobo6374(10:16:31 PM): which is why he would upgrade to 2gb or 3gb later
Bobo6374(10:16:49 PM): but still have a better (dual-channeled) and balanced system now,
Bobo6374(10:17:02 PM): byebye the other one
Encore4More(10:17:28 PM): i made a chart on how much RAM was used over the last 5 years, how much ram system has... if u logically continue you will see that 4GB will next year, be like what 2gb is now...
Encore4More(10:17:30 PM): i.e.
Bobo6374(10:17:44 PM): but nobody needs 2gb right now
monkeysims123(10:17:45 PM): Encore, build your own rig and then talk to me
Encore4More(10:18:10 PM): Bobo6374: but nobody needs 2gb right now
j O 19 8 78 0(10:18:15 PM): i only internet, soo i wont even need 512 RAM, but might upgrade
Bobo6374(10:18:22 PM): well i shouldn't say nobody
Encore4More(10:18:27 PM): peopel with the specs i told u do
Encore4More(10:18:32 PM): if they want to play BF2
Encore4More(10:18:42 PM): people that want ot multi task do
Bobo6374(10:18:47 PM): i have 1gb and i am running 12 windows right now with f@h in the background, i don't even come close to using 1gb
Encore4More(10:19:04 PM): 12 windows?
Bobo6374(10:19:12 PM): yes, 12 windows
Encore4More(10:19:12 PM): that doesn't mean anything
Encore4More(10:19:18 PM): what are the tasks?
monkeysims123(10:19:19 PM): i have 8 running and am only using 300mb of ram
Bobo6374(10:19:19 PM): it means something
Encore4More(10:19:24 PM): ket me say this
Encore4More(10:19:35 PM): would u turn down 2gb because u don't need it?
Encore4More(10:19:40 PM): let*
Encore4More(10:19:50 PM): monkeysims123: i have 8 running and am only using 300mb of ram
Bobo6374(10:19:53 PM): yes, because i wouldn't waste money right now on it
Encore4More(10:19:53 PM): u are lying
Encore4More(10:20:09 PM): i am using exactly 300MB
monkeysims123(10:20:10 PM): nope
Encore4More(10:20:17 PM): and i just have aim and mozilla on
monkeysims123(10:20:18 PM): of your 384mb
Encore4More(10:20:24 PM): yep
Bobo6374(10:20:26 PM): i am using 466mb
monkeysims123(10:20:35 PM): your comp is old though encore
Encore4More(10:20:39 PM): so?
Bobo6374(10:20:42 PM): and uses slow ram
Encore4More(10:20:44 PM): so?
monkeysims123(10:20:51 PM): it will use up more
Bobo6374(10:20:51 PM): remember that not only ram quantity increases, but also speed
j O 19 8 78 0(10:20:58 PM): my computers are old 2
Bobo6374(10:21:02 PM): which is why he would get ddr2-800
monkeysims123(10:21:09 PM): correct
Encore4More(10:21:23 PM): no
Encore4More(10:21:26 PM): my dad has 2gb ram
Bobo6374(10:21:33 PM): so does my dad
Encore4More(10:21:38 PM): wait
Bobo6374(10:21:44 PM): but it is pc133, with a piii processor
Encore4More(10:21:47 PM): why does anyone need more then 1gb?
Encore4More(10:21:59 PM): because some games recomend 1gb?
Bobo6374(10:22:02 PM): my dad runs ansys, which can use up to 128gb or ram
Encore4More(10:22:26 PM): how many ppl on CF have 2gb of ram?
monkeysims123(10:22:27 PM): ansys utilizes whatever ram amount you have doesnt it
Bobo6374(10:22:34 PM): pretty much
Encore4More(10:22:38 PM): yep
monkeysims123(10:22:40 PM): not many have 2gb
Encore4More(10:22:43 PM): no
monkeysims123(10:22:50 PM): most have 1gb
Encore4More(10:22:51 PM): praetor has 2gb
Bobo6374(10:22:55 PM): that's praetor
Encore4More(10:22:56 PM): obviously he sees some bonus to it
Bobo6374(10:23:11 PM): then why don't you ask him what that bonus is?
Bobo6374(10:23:18 PM): also notice the rest of his computer
Encore4More(10:23:19 PM): i really want to
Encore4More(10:23:29 PM): yea he has a nice puter
Bobo6374(10:23:31 PM): it is considerably better than what this person is building, and more suited to have 2gb
Bobo6374(10:23:44 PM): by this person i mean whoever started the $800 computer thread
Encore4More(10:23:55 PM): Bobo6374: it is considerably better than what this person is buildin
Encore4More(10:23:56 PM): no
Encore4More(10:24:01 PM): he has the same graphics card
Encore4More(10:24:11 PM): and socket 939
Encore4More(10:24:19 PM): x2
Encore4More(10:24:21 PM): 4200+
Bobo6374(10:24:24 PM): but doesn't he have a high x2?
Bobo6374(10:24:26 PM): and raid?
Encore4More(10:24:33 PM): that is the harddrives!!!
Encore4More(10:24:40 PM): u said considerally better
Bobo6374(10:24:40 PM): idk...he changes his computer so often, he used to have a 4800