LCD HDTV as a computer monitor

Esskobarr · 08-11-2006, 11:00 PM

I need any and all advice I can get. I have a decent computer setup and a brand new LCD HDTV that I am trying to make compatible.

Setup:
FX-55
ASUS A8N Deluxe MB
SLi 2x PNY Verto 6600 GT PCI
2 gigs corsair ram
all else is inconsequential i believe

TV:
Brand new 40 inch Samsung 1080p LCD flat panel. (LN-S4095D)

I have the monitor connected with a DVI-HDMI input and its up and running. I am having a couple problems however. The edges of the monitor are ouside of the border of the screen on all edges. I have used NVKeystone to pull in the corners becuase I cannot find a size adjustment like you would find on a computer monitor. It is currently running in 1920x1080. I believe it is set to HDTV setting 1080i.

1.)I feel like there should be a way to set the monitor to the right size without NVKeystone.
2.) I am having issues running games(counterstrike source, DoD, etc. even in the 1280x720 (i suppose equivalent to 780i or p)

What can I change or is there possibly a driver set i could DL? To my knowledge there is no driver for the samsung TV, but my computer recognizes it has 1080p capability and that it is a Samsung.
Also, will hooking the TV up to the PC by the PC input (VGA blue cable) make a difference? I only have 4 dvi inputs and would have to get a converter i guess.
Thanks for any help.

P11 · 08-11-2006, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esskobarr

I need any and all advice I can get. I have a decent computer setup and a brand new LCD HDTV that I am trying to make compatible.

Setup:
FX-55
ASUS A8N Deluxe MB
SLi 2x PNY Verto 6600 GT PCI
2 gigs corsair ram
all else is inconsequential i believe

TV:
Brand new 40 inch Samsung 1080p LCD flat panel. (LN-S4095D)

I have the monitor connected with a DVI-HDMI input and its up and running. I am having a couple problems however. The edges of the monitor are ouside of the border of the screen on all edges. I have used NVKeystone to pull in the corners becuase I cannot find a size adjustment like you would find on a computer monitor. It is currently running in 1920x1080. I believe it is set to HDTV setting 1080i.

1.)I feel like there should be a way to set the monitor to the right size without NVKeystone.
2.) I am having issues running games(counterstrike source, DoD, etc. even in the 1280x720 (i suppose equivalent to 780i or p)

What can I change or is there possibly a driver set i could DL? To my knowledge there is no driver for the samsung TV, but my computer recognizes it has 1080p capability and that it is a Samsung.
Also, will hooking the TV up to the PC by the PC input (VGA blue cable) make a difference? I only have 4 dvi inputs and would have to get a converter i guess.
Thanks for any help.

That's a sweet LCD. However, I believe your problem is most likely your graphics cards. I'm not sure if they can handle 1080i or if they even fully support HDTV. The newer Nvidia 7 Series would most likely be able to handle would your trying to achieve.

Esskobarr · 08-11-2006, 11:16 PM

I havent checked into the up-to-date components for computers sinces I built this one. will the new nvidia 7 series be compatible with my current motherboard and all? also, im not sure if i made it clear, im using the monitor right now, its set on 1920x1080, so its works, but i think it can work better. i know the answer to making a computer better typically involves spending more money on it....sadly...this damn TV cost more than what i put into the comp and the comp wasnt cheap by any means. when the TV isnt in an HD compatible resoultion is when i have problems, the ones involving 480 720 or 1080. is this just going to be the case all the time or what? i was curious if the built in resolution settings for the steam games could even hit 1920x1080 or if those resolutions were merely read from what your graphics cards could handle? im not sure i quite understand the technicalities and i consider myself pretty damn computer literate. how much more stress is this 40 inch monitor putting on the graphics capabilities of my computer than my old 23 inch? (dont just answer the last question...feel free to address all of my problems lol.)

P11 · 08-11-2006, 11:22 PM

If you purchase a Nvidia 7950 you will be able to play ALL GAMES in HD!!

Resolution pretty much ruins your fps as you increase it, and I can tell you for sure that your GPU set-up cannot even come close to handling High-Definition gaming at those resolutions.

This card right here will essentially play every game you want in HD at Maximum Graphics, although it is VERY expensive: http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_7950.html

Esskobarr · 08-12-2006, 02:55 AM

i have seen quad SLi everywhere recently. this dual GPU graphics card 7950, do you have to have a quad sli compatible board or will two of these fit in my asus A8N deluxe sli motherboard? i see they are like 550 each, but if im gonna be runnin a 3300 dollar HDTV itll be worth it.

P11 · 08-12-2006, 02:59 AM

Nvidia claims that it will work with any: NVIDIA nForce®4 SLI-based motherboard. So I'm guessing a regular SLI board will work.

Esskobarr · 08-12-2006, 02:59 AM

oh yeah, im not a complete newb by the way, i know increased resolution means lower FPS, but my computer currently runs a 1600x1200 display at 170 FPS and its not even optimized or tweaked. i just figured since it does that reasonably, it miiiight have been able to handle 1920x1080. am i wrong?

because if theres a way without spending another 600 dollars on a new graphics card, id want to try that first. im guessing the answer is no way no how with my current setup.

P11 · 08-12-2006, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Esskobarr

oh yeah, im not a complete newb by the way, i know increased resolution means lower FPS, but my computer currently runs a 1600x1200 display at 170 FPS and its not even optimized or tweaked. i just figured since it does that reasonably, it miiiight have been able to handle 1920x1080. am i wrong?

because if theres a way without spending another 600 dollars on a new graphics card, id want to try that first. im guessing the answer is no way no how with my current setup.

When your playing games are you playing at the highest detail?

Esskobarr · 08-12-2006, 03:01 AM

yeah its nForce 4 SLi...hrm...i guess ill start searchin for the best price sometime soon. this is going to end up being mounted on the wall in the master bedroom of a new house in about 2 months, underneath it is gonna be my 23 inch viewsonic and my desk, i want it to hook up to my computer and HD digital cable and a nice surround sound setup im about to purchase.

Esskobarr · 08-12-2006, 03:02 AM

yeah like half-life two runs around 70 fps. DoD runs about 150 in certain maps, maybe not as complex textures?

08-11-2006, 11:00 PM	#1 (permalink)
Esskobarr New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	LCD HDTV as a computer monitor I need any and all advice I can get. I have a decent computer setup and a brand new LCD HDTV that I am trying to make compatible. Setup: FX-55 ASUS A8N Deluxe MB SLi 2x PNY Verto 6600 GT PCI 2 gigs corsair ram all else is inconsequential i believe TV: Brand new 40 inch Samsung 1080p LCD flat panel. (LN-S4095D) I have the monitor connected with a DVI-HDMI input and its up and running. I am having a couple problems however. The edges of the monitor are ouside of the border of the screen on all edges. I have used NVKeystone to pull in the corners becuase I cannot find a size adjustment like you would find on a computer monitor. It is currently running in 1920x1080. I believe it is set to HDTV setting 1080i. 1.)I feel like there should be a way to set the monitor to the right size without NVKeystone. 2.) I am having issues running games(counterstrike source, DoD, etc. even in the 1280x720 (i suppose equivalent to 780i or p) What can I change or is there possibly a driver set i could DL? To my knowledge there is no driver for the samsung TV, but my computer recognizes it has 1080p capability and that it is a Samsung. Also, will hooking the TV up to the PC by the PC input (VGA blue cable) make a difference? I only have 4 dvi inputs and would have to get a converter i guess. Thanks for any help.

08-11-2006, 11:22 PM	#4 (permalink)
P11 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto Age: 18 Posts: 1,309	If you purchase a Nvidia 7950 you will be able to play ALL GAMES in HD!! Resolution pretty much ruins your fps as you increase it, and I can tell you for sure that your GPU set-up cannot even come close to handling High-Definition gaming at those resolutions. This card right here will essentially play every game you want in HD at Maximum Graphics, although it is VERY expensive: http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce_7950.html __________________ Asus K8V-SE Deluxe AMD 64 3400+ 2.56 Ghz Cosair 1.5 GB PC-3200 400Mhz Enermax 535W/SLI-Ready/12V @38A 250GB Western Digital HD 8mb cache IDE 320GB Western Digital My Book Premium External HD Sony DVD+RW/+R Double Layer burner drive Logitech MX5000 Bluetooth Combo ATI X850XT 256MB ;) Diablotek Samurai ATX Case 3DMark03 PC Exposure : www.pcexposure.com Last edited by P11; 08-11-2006 at 11:25 PM.

08-12-2006, 02:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
P11 VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Toronto Age: 18 Posts: 1,309	Nvidia claims that it will work with any: NVIDIA nForce®4 SLI-based motherboard. So I'm guessing a regular SLI board will work. __________________ Asus K8V-SE Deluxe AMD 64 3400+ 2.56 Ghz Cosair 1.5 GB PC-3200 400Mhz Enermax 535W/SLI-Ready/12V @38A 250GB Western Digital HD 8mb cache IDE 320GB Western Digital My Book Premium External HD Sony DVD+RW/+R Double Layer burner drive Logitech MX5000 Bluetooth Combo ATI X850XT 256MB ;) Diablotek Samurai ATX Case 3DMark03 PC Exposure : www.pcexposure.com

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08-11-2006, 11:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Esskobarr New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	I havent checked into the up-to-date components for computers sinces I built this one. will the new nvidia 7 series be compatible with my current motherboard and all? also, im not sure if i made it clear, im using the monitor right now, its set on 1920x1080, so its works, but i think it can work better. i know the answer to making a computer better typically involves spending more money on it....sadly...this damn TV cost more than what i put into the comp and the comp wasnt cheap by any means. when the TV isnt in an HD compatible resoultion is when i have problems, the ones involving 480 720 or 1080. is this just going to be the case all the time or what? i was curious if the built in resolution settings for the steam games could even hit 1920x1080 or if those resolutions were merely read from what your graphics cards could handle? im not sure i quite understand the technicalities and i consider myself pretty damn computer literate. how much more stress is this 40 inch monitor putting on the graphics capabilities of my computer than my old 23 inch? (dont just answer the last question...feel free to address all of my problems lol.)

08-12-2006, 02:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
Esskobarr New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	i have seen quad SLi everywhere recently. this dual GPU graphics card 7950, do you have to have a quad sli compatible board or will two of these fit in my asus A8N deluxe sli motherboard? i see they are like 550 each, but if im gonna be runnin a 3300 dollar HDTV itll be worth it.

08-12-2006, 02:59 AM	#7 (permalink)
Esskobarr New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	oh yeah, im not a complete newb by the way, i know increased resolution means lower FPS, but my computer currently runs a 1600x1200 display at 170 FPS and its not even optimized or tweaked. i just figured since it does that reasonably, it miiiight have been able to handle 1920x1080. am i wrong? because if theres a way without spending another 600 dollars on a new graphics card, id want to try that first. im guessing the answer is no way no how with my current setup.

08-12-2006, 03:01 AM	#9 (permalink)
Esskobarr New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	yeah its nForce 4 SLi...hrm...i guess ill start searchin for the best price sometime soon. this is going to end up being mounted on the wall in the master bedroom of a new house in about 2 months, underneath it is gonna be my 23 inch viewsonic and my desk, i want it to hook up to my computer and HD digital cable and a nice surround sound setup im about to purchase.

08-12-2006, 03:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
Esskobarr New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 18	yeah like half-life two runs around 70 fps. DoD runs about 150 in certain maps, maybe not as complex textures?