New CPU Installation...

Marzeth · 08-20-2006, 01:05 PM

About to get a new CPU today

P4 3.0E FSB800 + HT Socket 478

Anyone know any links where i can learn how to install?

Yasu · 08-20-2006, 02:04 PM

It's not that hard. Flip lever, match gold triangle(on mine it was like that), drop in place, close lever, install HSF. The manual tells you how to install it also.

Marzeth · 08-20-2006, 02:19 PM

I know it's not hard, the thing is that I REALLY don't want to mess things up.

Specially since I'm upgrading, which means I have to remove my P4 2.4 and install thenew one, I want to make sure that I've read an actual manual to do it.

I just don't want to pull something other than the CPU, HS & F out of the socket!

Mattu · 08-20-2006, 02:32 PM

Just be careful and take your time. Read the manual.

Sophocles · 08-20-2006, 02:38 PM

If you're suing any thermal paste then be careful removing the HSF to avoid bending any pins on your old CPU. As someone has already stated all that you have to do is line the CPU up correctly and it should drop right into place, if it doesn't don't apply too much pressure to it. A gentle tap should seat it and if that doesn't work then check to see that you've lined up the CPU correctly.

[-0MEGA-] · 08-20-2006, 02:49 PM

This is done on an older AMD system, but it's basically the same thing.

The first step to replace a CPU is to remove the heatsink. All modern CPU's require an active heatsink, a chunk of finned heat-conductive metal with a cooling an mounted on top. The leading cause of CPU failure is probably fan failure, since the CPU can overheat and sustain damage if there's not enough cooling air flowing over the fins. The only rule of thumb for removing heatsinks is to study the latching mechanism then use your thumb to release it.

A standard Socket A heatsink is latched on both sides, but as soon as you release the main spring force by doing the easy side, the other side will fall off as you lift the heatsink away from the CPU. You can see the dried out (not so good) thermal compound on our old Athlon as we lift away the heatsink. You can just see the same dried out crud on the bottom of the heatsink at this angle.

All modern CPUs since the inception of Socket 7 back in the early 90's have used ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) sockets, where the CPU legs are locked in place by moving a locking lever. To remove the Athlon CPU, we first have to release the locking lever and lift it up to the vertical position. The Athlon CPU is then lifted straight out of the socket (below). Also below, to the right, we show the keying on two corners of the socket and the CPU that prevents you from installing it improperly.

The new Athlon CPU we are installing here isn't a new CPU at all, it's a "pull", a CPU that's been removed from a system. When you shop for a replacement CPU to install on an older motherboard, you'll see that the prices are super low and most are identified as "pulls. The Athlon is installed in the socket and locked into place with the locking lever, which is pulled a little away from the side of the socket to get past the locking nub.

Now comes the critical step. All modern CPUs require some sort of thermal material be added to the die to improve the thermal interface with the heatsink. The purpose of a thermal compound, like this Arctic Silver Ceramique, is to fill in the microscopic voids in both the CPU die and the metal bottom of the heatsink. You down't want to drown the CPU in thermal compound, just use enough (many manufacturers define the amount as a large grain of rice or a small pea) so when the heatsink presses down on it it will spread it over the die.

That's it, time to reinstall the heatsink by first latching the far side of the retaining spring over the center nub on the opposite side of the socket. You can see it latched on here between the capacitors, which makes this the "poor access" side and the reason we install the CPU heatsink retainer on this side first.

Then connect the fan to the motherboard, and you're all set!

Marzeth · 08-20-2006, 03:12 PM

The processor comes with the Fan, Heatsink and, obviously, the CPU; but can't find the thermal compound.

Should it come with it?
Do I have to buy it because I MUST use it?

[-0MEGA-] · 08-20-2006, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marzeth

The processor comes with the Fan, Heatsink and, obviously, the CPU; but can't find the thermal compound.

Should it come with it?
Do I have to buy it because I MUST use it?

Retail processors that come with the heatsink/fan, also come with a thermal pad. The thermal pad is similar to thermal paste, but it is pre-applied to the heatsink.

So you shouldn't need to buy anything extra.

Marzeth · 08-20-2006, 06:39 PM

oh, ok.
it's like a double-sided tape. I remove the back cover/film and its sticky.
I guess that's what you mean with "thermal pad"
Thanks for the steps & tips Omega!

Iluvpenguins · 08-20-2006, 07:22 PM

Good luck installing it

...and if you screw it up,just return it and say yeah,it had a bent pin.

08-20-2006, 01:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
Marzeth Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 176	New CPU Installation... About to get a new CPU today P4 3.0E FSB800 + HT Socket 478 Anyone know any links where i can learn how to install? __________________ --Laptop-- Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz + 2GB RAM 128MB nVidia GeForceGo 7300 80GB HDD --Console-- Sony - Playstation 3[/size]

08-20-2006, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Yasu Diamond Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: TX Age: 20 Posts: 1,199	It's not that hard. Flip lever, match gold triangle(on mine it was like that), drop in place, close lever, install HSF. The manual tells you how to install it also. __________________ CPU: Intel P4 3.0 HT Mobo: ASUS P5P800 RAM: 2x512 PC3200 VC: ATI Radeon X850PRO HDD: 160GB Seagate SATA PSU: 500watt Ultra X-connect

08-20-2006, 02:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
Marzeth Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 176	I know it's not hard, the thing is that I REALLY don't want to mess things up. Specially since I'm upgrading, which means I have to remove my P4 2.4 and install thenew one, I want to make sure that I've read an actual manual to do it. I just don't want to pull something other than the CPU, HS & F out of the socket! __________________ --Laptop-- Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz + 2GB RAM 128MB nVidia GeForceGo 7300 80GB HDD --Console-- Sony - Playstation 3[/size]

08-20-2006, 02:32 PM	#4 (permalink)
Mattu Gold Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Knoxville, Tennessee Posts: 431	Just be careful and take your time. Read the manual. __________________ My Home Built Machine: Intel Pentium D 925 3GHz 1024MB DDR 2700 RAM Nvidia GeForce 7600 512MB

08-20-2006, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
[-0MEGA-] Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Concord, NH Age: 20 Posts: 27,082	This is done on an older AMD system, but it's basically the same thing. The first step to replace a CPU is to remove the heatsink. All modern CPU's require an active heatsink, a chunk of finned heat-conductive metal with a cooling an mounted on top. The leading cause of CPU failure is probably fan failure, since the CPU can overheat and sustain damage if there's not enough cooling air flowing over the fins. The only rule of thumb for removing heatsinks is to study the latching mechanism then use your thumb to release it. A standard Socket A heatsink is latched on both sides, but as soon as you release the main spring force by doing the easy side, the other side will fall off as you lift the heatsink away from the CPU. You can see the dried out (not so good) thermal compound on our old Athlon as we lift away the heatsink. You can just see the same dried out crud on the bottom of the heatsink at this angle. All modern CPUs since the inception of Socket 7 back in the early 90's have used ZIF (Zero Insertion Force) sockets, where the CPU legs are locked in place by moving a locking lever. To remove the Athlon CPU, we first have to release the locking lever and lift it up to the vertical position. The Athlon CPU is then lifted straight out of the socket (below). Also below, to the right, we show the keying on two corners of the socket and the CPU that prevents you from installing it improperly. The new Athlon CPU we are installing here isn't a new CPU at all, it's a "pull", a CPU that's been removed from a system. When you shop for a replacement CPU to install on an older motherboard, you'll see that the prices are super low and most are identified as "pulls. The Athlon is installed in the socket and locked into place with the locking lever, which is pulled a little away from the side of the socket to get past the locking nub. Now comes the critical step. All modern CPUs require some sort of thermal material be added to the die to improve the thermal interface with the heatsink. The purpose of a thermal compound, like this Arctic Silver Ceramique, is to fill in the microscopic voids in both the CPU die and the metal bottom of the heatsink. You down't want to drown the CPU in thermal compound, just use enough (many manufacturers define the amount as a large grain of rice or a small pea) so when the heatsink presses down on it it will spread it over the die. That's it, time to reinstall the heatsink by first latching the far side of the retaining spring over the center nub on the opposite side of the socket. You can see it latched on here between the capacitors, which makes this the "poor access" side and the reason we install the CPU heatsink retainer on this side first. Then connect the fan to the motherboard, and you're all set! __________________ Desktop // Laptop Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.0GHz // Core 2 Duo P8400 2.26GHz Asus Rampage Formula X48 // Intel PM45 ATI 4870X2 2GB GDDR5 // 512MB GDDR3 9800M GTS 4GB (2x 2GB) DDR2 940 // 4GB DDR3 800 750GB SATAII w/32MB // 200GB SATAII 7200RPM Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty SilverStone 750W +12V@60A 3DMark06: 21391 // 9179

08-20-2006, 02:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Sophocles VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 165	If you're suing any thermal paste then be careful removing the HSF to avoid bending any pins on your old CPU. As someone has already stated all that you have to do is line the CPU up correctly and it should drop right into place, if it doesn't don't apply too much pressure to it. A gentle tap should seat it and if that doesn't work then check to see that you've lined up the CPU correctly.

08-20-2006, 03:12 PM	#7 (permalink)
Marzeth Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 176	The processor comes with the Fan, Heatsink and, obviously, the CPU; but can't find the thermal compound. Should it come with it? Do I have to buy it because I MUST use it? __________________ --Laptop-- Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz + 2GB RAM 128MB nVidia GeForceGo 7300 80GB HDD --Console-- Sony - Playstation 3[/size]

08-20-2006, 06:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Marzeth Silver Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 28 Posts: 176	oh, ok. it's like a double-sided tape. I remove the back cover/film and its sticky. I guess that's what you mean with "thermal pad" Thanks for the steps & tips Omega! __________________ --Laptop-- Intel Core 2 Duo @ 2.0GHz + 2GB RAM 128MB nVidia GeForceGo 7300 80GB HDD --Console-- Sony - Playstation 3[/size]

08-20-2006, 07:22 PM	#10 (permalink)
Iluvpenguins Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kitchener Ontario Posts: 1,293	Good luck installing it ...and if you screw it up,just return it and say yeah,it had a bent pin. __________________ My computer: Intel Core2Duo E6550 @ 3.01ghz Gigabyte P31-DS3L Patriot 2x1GB DDR2-800 @ 1032mhz EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Antec 500W w/32A on 12v rail WD 80GB HDD,WD 500GB HDD Ultra Aluminus Full Tower Case (Black Finish)

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