Which CPU brand do you choose? Version 2

bball4life · 09-21-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Filip

I suggest you to read some stickies.

Not only stickies, but google about it, read up on wikipedia, GHz isn't everything and to be very honest that is the mistake most noobs make about processors. You have been trapped by intel GHz which they no longer play tbh, but honestly don't act like your right when you haven't researched it and when you honestly are completely wrong.
For example I have a p4 630 its 3.0GHz and an amd 3700+ its 2.2GHz my amd is a good chunk faster then the intel, my friend even oc'ed the exact same chip the 630 to 4.2GHz and my amd at 2.75GHz still easily whooped it, in fact it still beats it at around 2.4 or 2.5GHz if not lower.

SirKenin · 09-21-2006, 09:27 AM

lol. The clock wars ended when Intel whipped AMD's ass to the 1GHz mark. All of a sudden AMD completely changed their tune and said that it's not the clockspeed that matters. And so it has been ever since.

bball4life · 09-21-2006, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

lol. The clock wars ended when Intel whipped AMD's ass to the 1GHz mark. All of a sudden AMD completely changed their tune and said that it's not the clockspeed that matters. And so it has been ever since.

Lol and intel was left playing the clock speed game on their p4's with netburst, and then they finally realized they were all alone and people were finally starting to realize that clock speed means nothing anymore, and then they changed their tune again.

SirKenin · 09-21-2006, 09:41 AM

Well, the theory behind the P4 is a sound one. The idea was to keep ramping it up. I guess the fact that the Athlon XP was stomping it, and the A64 came out and killed it there was no sense going any further with it. At least that's my thoughts on it.

bball4life · 09-21-2006, 09:51 AM

And the fact that intel totally bombed netburst and it never turned into anything good, I mean they planned on hitting 10GHz with netburst but never got anywhere close, it was a good idea, they just never developed the process enough or got it to work like it should have.

**ceewi1** · 09-21-2006, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by SirKenin

Well, the theory behind the P4 is a sound one. The idea was to keep ramping it up. I guess the fact that the Athlon XP was stomping it, and the A64 came out and killed it there was no sense going any further with it. At least that's my thoughts on it.

That was certainly part of it. Speeds in excess of 5Ghz were sometimes required for the P4 architecture to beat out AMDs top processors in the gaming arena. Heat and power were the biggest issues, though. The requirements quickly became untenable as Netburst was scaled up, a major reason why Tejas was scrapped in favour of Dual Core processors.

diduknowthat · 09-21-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by slobdogg

then it cant be faster. if it's running at 2.93Ghz, how can that be better then a 3.73Ghz processor?

Cause there's much more to the performance of a CPU than the net speed.

Clutch · 09-21-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Filip

when it comes to performing a certain task, for example, video compressing/decompressing or something else, Core 2 Duo X6800 takes the trophy

The Core 2 Duo is pretty much faster than the Pentium 4 in all tasks.

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Originally Posted by Filip

runs cooler due to less voltage becouse of the new 65nm process

A "new" 65nm process? Processors using the 65nm process have been out for over a year.

The main reason that the Core 2 is cooler than the Pentium 4 is the fact that the Pentium D 9xx series has around 376 million transistors, meanwhile the Core 2's have only 291 million transistors. Every transistor dissapates heat, and it's common sense to assume that the less heat producing things you have, the less heat there will be.

justinmmm690 · 09-21-2006, 01:18 PM

I agree that Core 2 Duo is better but I am trying to get a Pentium Extreme Edition@3.46GHz because I read all of your posts and now clock speed dosen't matter. And I don't want my first PC project to be a mobo Change.

Filip · 09-21-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Clutch

A "new" 65nm process? Processors using the 65nm process have been out for over a year.

I woudn't say more than a year, becouse 1st 65nm CPU was released somewhere in the end of 2005/beginning of 2006, hence it's newest/latest process for CPU's till 45nm process comes on market.

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09-21-2006, 09:27 AM	#62 (permalink)
SirKenin banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,711	lol. The clock wars ended when Intel whipped AMD's ass to the 1GHz mark. All of a sudden AMD completely changed their tune and said that it's not the clockspeed that matters. And so it has been ever since.

09-21-2006, 09:41 AM	#64 (permalink)
SirKenin banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,711	Well, the theory behind the P4 is a sound one. The idea was to keep ramping it up. I guess the fact that the Athlon XP was stomping it, and the A64 came out and killed it there was no sense going any further with it. At least that's my thoughts on it.