how to get pc faster

robina_80 · 12-15-2004, 09:59 AM

hi guys, if you want to upgrade your pc what makes it run faster and whats best for it eg, processor, memory

mgoldb2 · 12-15-2004, 10:08 AM

CPU and RAM is the most important factors. If you plan to play video games then video card becomes almost as important. If you want to run your computer fast then you need enough RAM to avoid halfing to use virtual memory which is very slow. CPU important because well it cant go faster then the cpu can go.

ZER0X · 12-15-2004, 10:22 AM

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CPU important because well it cant go faster then the cpu can go.

Are you refuring to overclocking?

robina_80 · 12-15-2004, 10:47 AM

ok how do i overclock my cpu i know how but i havnt got efficent cooling anyone help me ive got the following:
exhaust fan:
2 case fans:
1 bay cooler.
anyone come up with any ideas much appreciated
btw ive got amd athlon 2000xp

robina_80 · 12-16-2004, 12:22 AM

hi guys, basically this is my first time OC'ing I know how to do it but can you guys point me in the right direction what hardware/software to get for it, will be much appreciated, thanks.
BTW ive got the following hardware
system exhaust fan
2 case fans
one 5 1.4 bay cooler:
I know my hardwares bit crap but with your help i can improve on it.
I dont want to water cool gets messy have to drill holes all that, If its just a case of putting it in and switching it on, maybe but what ive heard is tricky.

robina_80 · 12-16-2004, 12:52 AM

what about if i get a better PSU like 500W and a new fan/heatsink for my amd athlon xp 2000

**Praetor** · 12-16-2004, 01:25 AM

Read
http://www.computerforum.com/cpus-overclocking/announcements.html

**SFR** · 12-16-2004, 06:37 AM

I am going to disagree with some of you.

I know there are many people who overclock their machines and I have nothing againt it, but for the majority of people there is no need.

No matter how fast the CPU is, there is always other areas on the computer that are slower. Bus speed... FSB speed, level 2 cache, level 1 data and trace cache.. and the amount and speed of your main RAM...

I believe these components are more important in the upgrading of your machine than your CPU. I also think the buffer size on your HARD DRIVE and also the RPM's can speed things up.

I guess I am from the school of thought that says: if you want to speed up your computer start with RAM and end with RAM.

mgoldb2 · 12-16-2004, 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SFR

if you want to speed up your computer start with RAM and end with RAM.

If you say speed of ram more important then cpu speed then why does a athlon 64 fx-55 using ddr400 outperforms a p4ee3.46 using ddr2-711 in most video games. clearly the system with the pentium has the faster ram. If you talking about amount of ram then you are right nothing slow down a computer more then using virtrual memory.

**Praetor** · 12-16-2004, 07:17 AM

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I guess I am from the school of thought that says: if you want to speed up your computer start with RAM and end with RAM.

Not old school. Any modern computer eng course will teach you that

(and ive introduced that kinda philosophy kinda with OC101 ... its just that OCing the CPU is much easier and feasible than OCing the RAM ... why? cuz for the most part a CPU is a CPU ... RAM comes in various OCable flavours) ... OC102 will deal more with RAM and specifics

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If you say speed of ram more important then cpu speed then why does a athlon 64 fx-55 using ddr400 outperforms a p4ee3.46 using ddr2-711 in most video games. clearly the system with the pentium has the faster ram.

1. Clearly nothing
2. DDR2 is crummy and lags out because of feedback interferrence.
3. The first P4s were outdone by the last P3s ... but look at them now
4. When you make a comparison -- make it a meaningful comparison. Comparing ondie vs off die memory controllers is one thing. Comparing DDR vs DDR2 is another thing. Comparing all four parameters together mean jack shit all.

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If you talking about amount of ram then you are right nothing slow down a computer more then using virtrual memory

Wanna bet?

12-15-2004, 09:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
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mgoldb2 VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 25 Posts: 1,259	CPU and RAM is the most important factors. If you plan to play video games then video card becomes almost as important. If you want to run your computer fast then you need enough RAM to avoid halfing to use virtual memory which is very slow. CPU important because well it cant go faster then the cpu can go. __________________ Acer A11912B 19"montior Aspire x-superalien case Asus k8t800 pro motherboard athlon 64 fx-55 2GB(2 of 1GB) of Geil DDR ram Geforce 6800 ultra 2 Seagate 200GB 7200RPM Model ST3200822A configure as RAID 0 1 DVDRW and 1 CDRW 3.5 drive sound blaster audigey2 zs logitech 2300 thx certified 2.1 speakers

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robina_80 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: LONDON Age: 24 Posts: 1,977	first time OC'ing hi guys, basically this is my first time OC'ing I know how to do it but can you guys point me in the right direction what hardware/software to get for it, will be much appreciated, thanks. BTW ive got the following hardware system exhaust fan 2 case fans one 5 1.4 bay cooler: I know my hardwares bit crap but with your help i can improve on it. I dont want to water cool gets messy have to drill holes all that, If its just a case of putting it in and switching it on, maybe but what ive heard is tricky.

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robina_80 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: LONDON Age: 24 Posts: 1,977	ok how do i overclock my cpu i know how but i havnt got efficent cooling anyone help me ive got the following: exhaust fan: 2 case fans: 1 bay cooler. anyone come up with any ideas much appreciated btw ive got amd athlon 2000xp

12-16-2004, 06:37 AM	#8 (permalink)
SFR SUPER MODERATOR Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: San Diego, USA Age: 24 Posts: 3,923	I am going to disagree with some of you. I know there are many people who overclock their machines and I have nothing againt it, but for the majority of people there is no need. No matter how fast the CPU is, there is always other areas on the computer that are slower. Bus speed... FSB speed, level 2 cache, level 1 data and trace cache.. and the amount and speed of your main RAM... I believe these components are more important in the upgrading of your machine than your CPU. I also think the buffer size on your HARD DRIVE and also the RPM's can speed things up. I guess I am from the school of thought that says: if you want to speed up your computer start with RAM and end with RAM. __________________ The real danger is not that computers will begin to think like men, but that men will begin to think like computers. ~Sydney J. Harris I haven't lost my mind; I have a tape back-up somewhere. What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left. ~Oscar Levant Relax, its only Ones and Zeros

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