Help computer locks up!

TheBishop · 09-05-2006, 04:09 AM

Help......

For several weeks now my Windows XP Pentium Compaq 933, 512ram, 40 gig HD has been locking up. The curser freezes, and I have to kill the computer at the power strip. Keyboard is frozen, everything freezes.

I have replaced the ram, the mouse, the 40 gig hd. It still will freeze up.

It has taken me two kill starts to post this prpblem. There is no set pattern, or timing to the freezeup. Sometimes it freezes 10 minutes after start up, other times it will lock up after several hours of use. I have reloaded Windows XP Pro, it will freezeup. I installed my wife's Windows XP Home Edition, it will still freeze up.

All I can think of is the CPU failure.........

HELP.........

chrisalviola · 09-05-2006, 04:20 AM

I have the same problem last year when i OC it locks up and fried my board.

PC eye · 09-05-2006, 04:26 AM

Try a failing bios chip on the board itself. If you can get into the bios setup try lowering the memory clock or memory timings if that option is seen in the advancd chipset section. The battery on the board may need replacement. These two things there can be the cause. The battery maintains the charge needed to store settings.

A recent board with problems with Windows locking up totally upon reaching the desktop was due to a failing bios where lowering the memory timings suddenly saw things normal but slower. The 400mhz front side bus speed was reduced to 333mhz there. If the cpu quits the system won't even startup.

chrisalviola · 09-05-2006, 04:38 AM

Maybe a board problem?

PC eye · 09-05-2006, 06:20 AM

That can be very likely there if you were OCing and overheated the cpu to some degree. While the cpu could still be undamaged the temps shot into the board after the level of current being pulled weakened something there. On the last case here the aftermarket cpu cooler's fan quit seeing the temps shot upto 85C!

A month later after jsut having replaced that Windows suddenly started locking solid when just getting to the desktop. When the 200mhz setting was lowered to 166mhz the system ran normal again. Note the 200mhz is multiplied by dual channel to 400mhz.

TheBishop · 09-05-2006, 07:08 PM

The Compaq 933 is still at the factory settings, nothing has been done to it.

I'll pull the Battery and check it.

Does anyone know the minimum voltage the battery needs to run the BIOS?

Thanks

PC eye · 09-05-2006, 11:32 PM

The old board wasn't OCed for a long time when the cpu was overheated and still saw damage to the board strongly suspected or the cpu itself. If something in the cpu gave out the lowering of the memory timings or multiplier for the cpu could tell if damage was done. This would be one thing to try if replacing the battery saw no results.

TheBishop · 09-06-2006, 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

The old board wasn't OCed for a long time when the cpu was overheated and still saw damage to the board strongly suspected or the cpu itself. If something in the cpu gave out the lowering of the memory timings or multiplier for the cpu could tell if damage was done. This would be one thing to try if replacing the battery saw no results.

I replaced the battery today so now only time will tell. I did check the old battery, and it was 2.9+ volts, so I don't think that was the problem.

Time will tell

PC eye · 09-06-2006, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBishop

I replaced the battery today so now only time will tell. I did check the old battery, and it was 2.9+ volts, so I don't think that was the problem.

Time will tell

It may not be the problem but not you can rule that out if the problem has remained. The voltage when fully charged should read 3.3v for the standard 2032 Lithium battery.But the 2.9v seen there is within normal tolerance considering it wasn't just taken out of a new package.

Stalix · 09-07-2006, 06:55 AM

I presume that your reinstalled a fresh copy of windows xp when you switched HDD's... right?

If yeas then just try to take aout all of the unecessary pci cards and such out of the motherboard and boot it up and see if runs smoothly.

09-05-2006, 04:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
TheBishop New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	Help computer locks up! Help...... For several weeks now my Windows XP Pentium Compaq 933, 512ram, 40 gig HD has been locking up. The curser freezes, and I have to kill the computer at the power strip. Keyboard is frozen, everything freezes. I have replaced the ram, the mouse, the 40 gig hd. It still will freeze up. It has taken me two kill starts to post this prpblem. There is no set pattern, or timing to the freezeup. Sometimes it freezes 10 minutes after start up, other times it will lock up after several hours of use. I have reloaded Windows XP Pro, it will freezeup. I installed my wife's Windows XP Home Edition, it will still freeze up. All I can think of is the CPU failure......... HELP.........

09-05-2006, 07:08 PM	#6 (permalink)
TheBishop New Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	NO overclocking The Compaq 933 is still at the factory settings, nothing has been done to it. I'll pull the Battery and check it. Does anyone know the minimum voltage the battery needs to run the BIOS? Thanks

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09-05-2006, 04:20 AM	#2 (permalink)
chrisalviola Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 866	I have the same problem last year when i OC it locks up and fried my board.

09-05-2006, 04:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	Try a failing bios chip on the board itself. If you can get into the bios setup try lowering the memory clock or memory timings if that option is seen in the advancd chipset section. The battery on the board may need replacement. These two things there can be the cause. The battery maintains the charge needed to store settings. A recent board with problems with Windows locking up totally upon reaching the desktop was due to a failing bios where lowering the memory timings suddenly saw things normal but slower. The 400mhz front side bus speed was reduced to 333mhz there. If the cpu quits the system won't even startup.

09-05-2006, 04:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
chrisalviola Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 866	Maybe a board problem?

09-05-2006, 06:20 AM	#5 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	That can be very likely there if you were OCing and overheated the cpu to some degree. While the cpu could still be undamaged the temps shot into the board after the level of current being pulled weakened something there. On the last case here the aftermarket cpu cooler's fan quit seeing the temps shot upto 85C! A month later after jsut having replaced that Windows suddenly started locking solid when just getting to the desktop. When the 200mhz setting was lowered to 166mhz the system ran normal again. Note the 200mhz is multiplied by dual channel to 400mhz.

09-05-2006, 11:32 PM	#7 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	The old board wasn't OCed for a long time when the cpu was overheated and still saw damage to the board strongly suspected or the cpu itself. If something in the cpu gave out the lowering of the memory timings or multiplier for the cpu could tell if damage was done. This would be one thing to try if replacing the battery saw no results.

09-07-2006, 06:55 AM	#10 (permalink)
Stalix New Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10	I presume that your reinstalled a fresh copy of windows xp when you switched HDD's... right? If yeas then just try to take aout all of the unecessary pci cards and such out of the motherboard and boot it up and see if runs smoothly.