AIW 9800 Pro (AGP) -> BFG GeForce 7800GS OC 256MB (AGP)

Hylian · 09-11-2006, 01:26 AM

Anyone able to provide some insight of what type of improvements would come of such an upgrade?

I mainly like to play WoW, Counterstrike, FEAR, and a few others.

Putting the AGP slot aside, do you think this would last me for 2-3 years processing wise?

What's a similar ATI card of the same caliber?

And one final question...Does the stock cooling usually suffice for now-a-days video cards, or is it a given that if you want your card to do what the box says, you need to install a new GPU cooler?

Sorry for all the questions, yet I'm kinda dumb founded when it comes to comparing cards.

Iluvpenguins · 09-11-2006, 01:31 AM

1)The upgrade would be VERY noticeable,you'll be introduced to something new,little to no lag in very new games at high video settings.

2)FEAR,WoW,CS would play alot better on it,well WoW might not be too noticeable.

3)The card won't last 2-3 years sadly,think of 1-1.5 years at most,technology is rapidly moving and the 8 series is just around the corner.

4)Ati's X1800 i believe is ATI's rival for the 7800,not sure about for the specific GS,but look into those 2 models of cards.

5)The stock cooling on cards are perfectly fine unless it doesn't work or if you overclock and the card starts getting hot,other than that,stock cooling will work great.

**ceewi1** · 09-11-2006, 08:15 AM

There are no AGP X1800s, ATIs top AGP card is the X850XT.

It's a significant upgrade on your existing card, but given the cost i'd look at putting in a few extra dollars and upgrading the motherboard as well. AGP cards are far more expensive than equivelant PCI-E models.

Iluvpenguins · 09-11-2006, 09:13 PM

Yeah,but i dont think he wants to format his drive,I believe he cant use his HD with windows on a new motherboard unless it has the same chipset.

StrangleHold · 09-11-2006, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Iluvpenguins

Yeah,but i dont think he wants to format his drive,I believe he cant use his HD with windows on a new motherboard unless it has the same chipset.

Yea you can, you just have to change a few drivers before you swap boards out!

Iluvpenguins · 09-11-2006, 09:48 PM

Mine didnt work like that sadly

StrangleHold · 09-11-2006, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iluvpenguins

Mine didnt work like that sadly

Boot to the XP cd-Pick install [not repair)- Setup will find the XP instalation then ask if you want to repair it then (pick yes) Setup runs the upgrade code-sets itself to boot from the new controller! Done!

Hylian · 09-11-2006, 10:23 PM

I'm in a sticky situation. I have a product service plan for my 9800 that expires Dec 2007. I think I'll wait till next summer to upgrade to a PCI-E card. I don't want to upgrade my mobo without upgrading the Video interface (to PCI-E), and the RAM (to DDR2).

Now...what to do to my 9800 so it doesn't look like fraud...lol

StrangleHold · 09-11-2006, 10:27 PM

Use these and overclock it
http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php

Iluvpenguins · 09-11-2006, 10:36 PM

lol ,gotta love warranties,but i thought oc'ing voids the warranty?

09-11-2006, 01:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hylian Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 89	AIW 9800 Pro (AGP) -> BFG GeForce 7800GS OC 256MB (AGP) Anyone able to provide some insight of what type of improvements would come of such an upgrade? I mainly like to play WoW, Counterstrike, FEAR, and a few others. Putting the AGP slot aside, do you think this would last me for 2-3 years processing wise? What's a similar ATI card of the same caliber? And one final question...Does the stock cooling usually suffice for now-a-days video cards, or is it a given that if you want your card to do what the box says, you need to install a new GPU cooler? Sorry for all the questions, yet I'm kinda dumb founded when it comes to comparing cards. __________________ X-Blade ATX Window Case - Enermax Liberty 620W Power Supply Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - ASUS P5n32-SLI SE Deluxe OCZ 2GB 800MHz RAM 80GB Seagate SATA - 320GB Seagate SATA BFG GeForce 7950 GX2 1024MB PCI-E - LG L204WT 20.1" Widescreen Flatron LCD Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - Altec Lansing 5.1 Surround Sound Windows XP Pro - SP2

09-11-2006, 01:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
Iluvpenguins Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kitchener Ontario Posts: 1,293	1)The upgrade would be VERY noticeable,you'll be introduced to something new,little to no lag in very new games at high video settings. 2)FEAR,WoW,CS would play alot better on it,well WoW might not be too noticeable. 3)The card won't last 2-3 years sadly,think of 1-1.5 years at most,technology is rapidly moving and the 8 series is just around the corner. 4)Ati's X1800 i believe is ATI's rival for the 7800,not sure about for the specific GS,but look into those 2 models of cards. 5)The stock cooling on cards are perfectly fine unless it doesn't work or if you overclock and the card starts getting hot,other than that,stock cooling will work great. __________________ My computer: Intel Core2Duo E6550 @ 3.01ghz Gigabyte P31-DS3L Patriot 2x1GB DDR2-800 @ 1032mhz EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Antec 500W w/32A on 12v rail WD 80GB HDD,WD 500GB HDD Ultra Aluminus Full Tower Case (Black Finish)

09-11-2006, 08:15 AM	#3 (permalink)
ceewi1 Moderator Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 21 Posts: 5,280	There are no AGP X1800s, ATIs top AGP card is the X850XT. It's a significant upgrade on your existing card, but given the cost i'd look at putting in a few extra dollars and upgrading the motherboard as well. AGP cards are far more expensive than equivelant PCI-E models. __________________ CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600 / MOBO: Gigabyte 965P-DS3 / GPU: Gigabyte HD4870 RAM: 2GB G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-2GBPK / HDD: 2TB Total HDD / PSU: Antec NeoPower 480W Cheap PSUs - 2% of system costs, responsible for 28% of system deaths As Sealed Stick was removed, lost or damaged, it shall be out of warranty validity. - The "Warranty void if removed" sticker on numerous CoolerMaster PSUs. Useful PSU Guides

09-11-2006, 09:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
Iluvpenguins Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kitchener Ontario Posts: 1,293	Yeah,but i dont think he wants to format his drive,I believe he cant use his HD with windows on a new motherboard unless it has the same chipset. __________________ My computer: Intel Core2Duo E6550 @ 3.01ghz Gigabyte P31-DS3L Patriot 2x1GB DDR2-800 @ 1032mhz EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Antec 500W w/32A on 12v rail WD 80GB HDD,WD 500GB HDD Ultra Aluminus Full Tower Case (Black Finish)

09-11-2006, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Iluvpenguins Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kitchener Ontario Posts: 1,293	Mine didnt work like that sadly __________________ My computer: Intel Core2Duo E6550 @ 3.01ghz Gigabyte P31-DS3L Patriot 2x1GB DDR2-800 @ 1032mhz EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Antec 500W w/32A on 12v rail WD 80GB HDD,WD 500GB HDD Ultra Aluminus Full Tower Case (Black Finish)

09-11-2006, 10:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hylian Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 89	I'm in a sticky situation. I have a product service plan for my 9800 that expires Dec 2007. I think I'll wait till next summer to upgrade to a PCI-E card. I don't want to upgrade my mobo without upgrading the Video interface (to PCI-E), and the RAM (to DDR2). Now...what to do to my 9800 so it doesn't look like fraud...lol __________________ X-Blade ATX Window Case - Enermax Liberty 620W Power Supply Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 - ASUS P5n32-SLI SE Deluxe OCZ 2GB 800MHz RAM 80GB Seagate SATA - 320GB Seagate SATA BFG GeForce 7950 GX2 1024MB PCI-E - LG L204WT 20.1" Widescreen Flatron LCD Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - Altec Lansing 5.1 Surround Sound Windows XP Pro - SP2

09-11-2006, 10:27 PM	#9 (permalink)
StrangleHold Diamond Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In a realm of unknown Wonders Posts: 7,512	Use these and overclock it http://www.omegadrivers.net/ati/win2k_xp.php __________________ NZXT Apollo Athlon 64 X2 5600-3.3ghz. Gigabyte GA MA770 DS3 G Skill DDR2 1066-944mhz. 4gbs. PNY 8800GT/VD964 Cooler W/D Sata 3.0 500gb RE2 Humans are curious creatures and by nature insane. Lock us all in a room together and within hours we're dividing into groups, creating Gods and plotting on how to kill one another.

09-11-2006, 10:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Iluvpenguins Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kitchener Ontario Posts: 1,293	lol ,gotta love warranties,but i thought oc'ing voids the warranty? __________________ My computer: Intel Core2Duo E6550 @ 3.01ghz Gigabyte P31-DS3L Patriot 2x1GB DDR2-800 @ 1032mhz EVGA GeForce 8800GTX Antec 500W w/32A on 12v rail WD 80GB HDD,WD 500GB HDD Ultra Aluminus Full Tower Case (Black Finish)

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