This sucks dude .Norton ghost 10.0

patrickv · 10-20-2006, 09:11 AM

we had a maxtor 40GB we wanted to clone at first...Cloned failed.So we formatted the drive.
I took the maxtor and put it as slave in my pc so as to clone my primary C (western digital)..Cloned worked but wiped my data from the original (WD) drive.Now im stuck on the maxtor..Now i used norton ghost 10 to clone maxtor back to Western digital..it failed with "error EC8F17B3: cannot complete copying of C"...So i tried acronis true image..and it also failed..

Is there a problem with the MAxtor drive ?

Note:cloning to that maxtor works...but cloning from the maxtor fails

any help

PC eye · 10-20-2006, 09:33 AM

Cloning drives may or may not work. It's like a 50/50 proposition. If you have a dvd burner one thing to do is backup all of your important stuff onto dvd-rws if you don't want to make permanent backups at that time. Once you have a drive partitioned, formatted, and the particular operating system on it you drag the files and folders onto it.

Years back I was often told "stay away from Maxtors. They are nothing but..."? The problem seems more with the method and perhaps the size and types of the drives. Are they both the same type(ide or Sata?)?

patrickv · 10-20-2006, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

Cloning drives may or may not work. It's like a 50/50 proposition. If you have a dvd burner one thing to do is backup all of your important stuff onto dvd-rws if you don't want to make permanent backups at that time. Once you have a drive partitioned, formatted, and the particular operating system on it you drag the files and folders onto it.

Years back I was often told "stay away from Maxtors. They are nothing but..."? The problem seems more with the method and perhaps the size and types of the drives. Are they both the same type(ide or Sata?)?

yes both are IDE and both are 40GB..what should i do now?

PC eye · 10-20-2006, 12:26 PM

If you were running larger drives like 300-500gb you would be better to create large iso files packed with your stuff in several of those and burn them onto data dvds. With two 40gb drives with one having your files intact you will first want to prepare the WD to receive files by creating temp folders. Or you can get started right off if Windows is already installed and running to open two explorer windows and copy and paste folders from the Maxtor.

It won't take the time that you would see with large drives. But there's no 3rd party crap to get in the way of direct copying from drive to drive. I've done this for years when backing one drive to another. You are probably only dealing with a few gigabytes of files to begin with. Try copying and pasting a few hundred gigabytes with some files over 10gb in size. That's fun.

When you have everything set on the WD with Windows installed and the rest you would then slave the Maxtor and try direct copying from drive to drive. It will take several minutes if you have several gig on the Maxtor. All you do after is verify that all of the files you wanted were copied and they are in good shape. Plus you have a working copy of Windows freshly installed. That can solve quite a few headaches.

SirKenin · 10-20-2006, 12:52 PM

In my experience, Western Digital doesn't like Maxtor drives very much. This isn't a Maxtor problem. It's a WD problem. Maxtor works just fine with every other drive on the planet. I'm not quite sure what causes this, and I'm not aware of any workarounds.. There is nothing wrong with Ghost either. It's not a hit and miss operation. It has to do with your drives, not Ghost. I'm not quite sure what you can do now, except put that WD in another computer... It's not that great anyways.

tlarkin · 10-20-2006, 03:43 PM

check this

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05111019380362

Also, to say that imaging is 50/50 is wrong. We make images for every system here at my work and use that image to reimage the computers all the time. If imaging was so inconsistant it wouldn't be used as an enterprise solution.

A lot of times this will happen if there is a problem with the file system on the HD itself. Typically what I do in casesike this i use like partition magic and give the drive an NTFS partition and assign in a drive letter, then reboot and run ghost, and it works.

patrickv · 10-20-2006, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SirKenin

In my experience, Western Digital doesn't like Maxtor drives very much. This isn't a Maxtor problem. It's a WD problem. Maxtor works just fine with every other drive on the planet. I'm not quite sure what causes this, and I'm not aware of any workarounds.. There is nothing wrong with Ghost either. It's not a hit and miss operation. It has to do with your drives, not Ghost. I'm not quite sure what you can do now, except put that WD in another computer... It's not that great anyways.

yo dude you're very wrong there.My WD is good.The maxtor didn't work from the 1st pc we tested in and didn't work in mine either.like i said "cloning to maxtor works"...cloning from it fails.

(ps.i cloned my WD to a seagate once and it worked)...now where is the prob exactly ?

tlarkin · 10-20-2006, 04:22 PM

make sure you wipe out the destination drive, give it a file system and assign it a drive letter, then see if you can image it.

its a glitch in the imaging software I believe. You may also want to run all updates you can for ghost.

Are you running this in windows or booting off the ghost disk to make an image?

patrickv · 10-20-2006, 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tlarkin

check this

http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05111019380362

Also, to say that imaging is 50/50 is wrong. We make images for every system here at my work and use that image to reimage the computers all the time. If imaging was so inconsistant it wouldn't be used as an enterprise solution.

A lot of times this will happen if there is a problem with the file system on the HD itself. Typically what I do in casesike this i use like partition magic and give the drive an NTFS partition and assign in a drive letter, then reboot and run ghost, and it works.

yo thanks for the help..very much appreciated

SirKenin · 10-20-2006, 07:16 PM

Ok. I'm wrong. I've only used hundreds of WD and many more Maxtor. I've tried to slave Maxtors off of WDs, even here at home, and sometimes run into problems doing it... I stopped selling WD (giving up a "preferred seller" rating) because they are crap. But I digress. Sorry to interject.

10-20-2006, 09:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
patrickv Diamond Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Soul Chamber Posts: 5,562	This sucks dude .Norton ghost 10.0 we had a maxtor 40GB we wanted to clone at first...Cloned failed.So we formatted the drive. I took the maxtor and put it as slave in my pc so as to clone my primary C (western digital)..Cloned worked but wiped my data from the original (WD) drive.Now im stuck on the maxtor..Now i used norton ghost 10 to clone maxtor back to Western digital..it failed with "error EC8F17B3: cannot complete copying of C"...So i tried acronis true image..and it also failed.. Is there a problem with the MAxtor drive ? Note:cloning to that maxtor works...but cloning from the maxtor fails any help

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PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	If you were running larger drives like 300-500gb you would be better to create large iso files packed with your stuff in several of those and burn them onto data dvds. With two 40gb drives with one having your files intact you will first want to prepare the WD to receive files by creating temp folders. Or you can get started right off if Windows is already installed and running to open two explorer windows and copy and paste folders from the Maxtor. It won't take the time that you would see with large drives. But there's no 3rd party crap to get in the way of direct copying from drive to drive. I've done this for years when backing one drive to another. You are probably only dealing with a few gigabytes of files to begin with. Try copying and pasting a few hundred gigabytes with some files over 10gb in size. That's fun. When you have everything set on the WD with Windows installed and the rest you would then slave the Maxtor and try direct copying from drive to drive. It will take several minutes if you have several gig on the Maxtor. All you do after is verify that all of the files you wanted were copied and they are in good shape. Plus you have a working copy of Windows freshly installed. That can solve quite a few headaches.

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SirKenin banned Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,711	In my experience, Western Digital doesn't like Maxtor drives very much. This isn't a Maxtor problem. It's a WD problem. Maxtor works just fine with every other drive on the planet. I'm not quite sure what causes this, and I'm not aware of any workarounds.. There is nothing wrong with Ghost either. It's not a hit and miss operation. It has to do with your drives, not Ghost. I'm not quite sure what you can do now, except put that WD in another computer... It's not that great anyways.

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tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 6,258	check this http://service1.symantec.com/Support...05111019380362 Also, to say that imaging is 50/50 is wrong. We make images for every system here at my work and use that image to reimage the computers all the time. If imaging was so inconsistant it wouldn't be used as an enterprise solution. A lot of times this will happen if there is a problem with the file system on the HD itself. Typically what I do in casesike this i use like partition magic and give the drive an NTFS partition and assign in a drive letter, then reboot and run ghost, and it works.

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tlarkin VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 6,258	make sure you wipe out the destination drive, give it a file system and assign it a drive letter, then see if you can image it. its a glitch in the imaging software I believe. You may also want to run all updates you can for ghost. Are you running this in windows or booting off the ghost disk to make an image?

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