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Saurian · 10-29-2006, 08:57 PM

Don't they make sound cards that you can plug into PCIe x1 slots? I want to see PCI die. Why can't they put the new sound cards on these new slots? We have very little to plug into these, yet they give them to us. I want PCI to die, just as AGP has.

Does anybody know if there are any plants for these? Especially when they usually place a x1 slot right up next the the input/output section of the board, in between the graphics and it usually. Of course I'd much rather have integrated audio which makes the grade and not have an external setup (ie, PCI). Still, why not?

**The_Other_One** · 10-29-2006, 09:07 PM

Because PCI is plenty fast for sound and it would cost much more to develop soundcards for PCI Express seeing as all are basically made for PCI...

Now, I'm quite sure therea re PCI-Express sound cards out there, it's just a matter of finding them.

pip22 · 10-31-2006, 07:54 AM

So you want PCI to die do you, Saurian? Tell that to the thousands of people who are still using older computers (myself included) without PCI-E. We would have to buy a new system If all our PCI hardware failed and we couldn't get replacements. Sounds like you work for one of the big PC manufacturers who rely on standards being 'killed off' so they can make millions selling us all a new PC.

M0ddingMan1a · 10-31-2006, 07:59 AM

im still using agp too. and dude.. image like 5 PCI-E slots on a board. thats gonna use some power. i think pci is every efficient.

**Archangel** · 10-31-2006, 08:02 AM

the reson is quite simple... Marketing..
like pip22 said, there are quite a lot of people still having a pc without pci-e x1 slots. so if they would make a soundcard for pci-e x1,.. it wouldnt sell nearly as good as a PCI one at this point.
As for the speed,... that wouldnt matter i think.. since making pci-e 1x slots is cheaper then making PCI slots (its not even half the ammount of plastic used for example.. now, that may sound stupid, but immagine in what masses those plastic sockets are produced?)
Anyway,... I think PCI will slowly become obselete, and be replaced with pci-e x1,.. just not yet

10-29-2006, 08:57 PM	#1 (permalink)
Saurian Platinum Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oskaloosa/Pleasantville, Iowa Age: 22 Posts: 552	Why... Don't they make sound cards that you can plug into PCIe x1 slots? I want to see PCI die. Why can't they put the new sound cards on these new slots? We have very little to plug into these, yet they give them to us. I want PCI to die, just as AGP has. Does anybody know if there are any plants for these? Especially when they usually place a x1 slot right up next the the input/output section of the board, in between the graphics and it usually. Of course I'd much rather have integrated audio which makes the grade and not have an external setup (ie, PCI). Still, why not? __________________ Intel 3.2Ghz P4 MSI PM8M3-V GF FX5900XT 128MB 512 MB CXMS Dell 20.1" Widescreen LCD Need...upgrades....:)

10-29-2006, 09:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,307	Because PCI is plenty fast for sound and it would cost much more to develop soundcards for PCI Express seeing as all are basically made for PCI... Now, I'm quite sure therea re PCI-Express sound cards out there, it's just a matter of finding them. __________________ Urban De-Development * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT * C2D T5250 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100 * G4 1.33GHz \| 512M RAM \| 40G HD \| Radeon 9200

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M0ddingMan1a Diamond Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: CA Age: 18 Posts: 1,603	im still using agp too. and dude.. image like 5 PCI-E slots on a board. thats gonna use some power. i think pci is every efficient. __________________ Entertainment Rig// My FUll BLUE Rig: CPU: AMD 64 Clawhammer 3400+//CPU: AMD Sempron 2600+ Mobo: DFI Lanparty UT 250gb//Mobo: Gigabyte GA-K8NS RAM: 1 gig pc3200 Corsair XMS//RAM: 1 gig PC3200 PQi Video Card: Ati AIW 9800pro 128mb//Video Card: Sapphire Ati 9600pro 128mb HDs: 80gig Sata, 200gig ATA//HDs: 250gig WD, 80gig WD, 30gig WD, 13.5gig IBM PSU: 500w X-Infinity//PSU: 500W Ultra-X Titanium Blue

10-31-2006, 08:02 AM	#5 (permalink)
Archangel Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Netherlands Age: 21 Posts: 7,834	the reson is quite simple... Marketing.. like pip22 said, there are quite a lot of people still having a pc without pci-e x1 slots. so if they would make a soundcard for pci-e x1,.. it wouldnt sell nearly as good as a PCI one at this point. As for the speed,... that wouldnt matter i think.. since making pci-e 1x slots is cheaper then making PCI slots (its not even half the ammount of plastic used for example.. now, that may sound stupid, but immagine in what masses those plastic sockets are produced?) Anyway,... I think PCI will slowly become obselete, and be replaced with pci-e x1,.. just not yet __________________ God's busy, can I hellp you? Newton is dead, Einstein is dead, I don't feel very well either Xfire - Mirrari Intel Q6600 ( @3.6GHz) Asus Triton 79 Amazing 549/3200 4x 1Gb Corsair XMS2 DDR800 ( @ 960MHz ) Asus Maximus Formula Asus & Sapphire HD3870 512Mb Logitech MX Revolution mouse, G-15 keyboard, Saitek X-45 AeroEngine II case Corsair HX620W PSU

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10-31-2006, 07:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
pip22 Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 30	So you want PCI to die do you, Saurian? Tell that to the thousands of people who are still using older computers (myself included) without PCI-E. We would have to buy a new system If all our PCI hardware failed and we couldn't get replacements. Sounds like you work for one of the big PC manufacturers who rely on standards being 'killed off' so they can make millions selling us all a new PC.