DVD burning and playing (+) or (-) issue?

itchy · 11-03-2006, 01:47 PM

Basically, every year I produce a home dvd of all my photos and videos etc and incorporate some of my mates pics etc too. This has been going on since 2001 now, so have had a few of them. Trouble is, as technology has got better, and so have my skills I am now using up to 6gb of dual layer dvd's!!

The dual layer Dvd's I use are DVD + R DL's. These play fine in my pc's dvd player, but I can't get them to play on any of my, or my friends home dvd players.

Is there likely to be confliction of compatibility with the + disc? as before I used dual layer discs, all my videos were produced on '-' single layer discs, which worked fine.

Or is it likely to be something else? :S

jjsevdt · 11-03-2006, 02:20 PM

My guess would be the DVD players they're not working on. If you say the discs play fine on your computer then you know the information has been written to the disc.

Are their DVD palyers newer? Because -R discs are more universally compatable for the most part, that's not to saying I haven't seen older, cheaper players play +R and not -R

itchy · 11-03-2006, 04:25 PM

My dvd players wont play the + dl discs. The pc does, as the drive is a Sony unit whihc plays '+' or '-' discs.

Basically I've never seen '-' dual layer discs, so had to buy the '+' discs.... which I've never used before in any format.

I'm not sure why they play on the pc and not the dvd players. The only thing that has been suggested to me before would be because the dvd in my pc is Sony, which I was told like to be different and designed the '+' discs, everyone else used '-' discs, which play fine in all my non sony dvd players, and also my friends. But now, these + discs only work on my sony dvd pc drive.

Hard to explain properly!!

jjsevdt · 11-03-2006, 07:34 PM

Brand has nothing to do with it. I've never sceen DL-R disks either, but like I said before -R disks are better compatable with devices not specified to support a specific type. New DVD players generally specify which they'll support.

**The_Other_One** · 11-03-2006, 07:36 PM

I've never used DL disks as I've never needed them, but I hear their compatability is pretty sparce. You'd be MUCH better off if you could use plain R's, and probably -R's as they seem to be slightly more compatable(though I've seen a few players that only play +R's)

lhuser · 11-03-2006, 11:20 PM

Really weird. I would suggest to try another brand, see if that works. And, does your mate's DVd players support DL?

jjsevdt · 11-04-2006, 02:40 AM

of course they support DL, most DVDs bought from the store are DL discs.

itchy · 11-04-2006, 11:13 AM

:lol: I see what you mean jjsevdt, I mis-understood first time round.

I have a cheap dvd player that has played everything in the past, mpeg, wmv, wma, jpeg etc.... and being a few years old it is dual layer.

I'll just have to find a dvd player that'll play these discs as I bought a job lot for a good price, but not good enough to try different discs!

Cheers though guys.

itchy · 11-05-2006, 01:43 PM

Anyone read reports like this before?:

http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/R...ArticleID=9102

shareteehee · 11-05-2006, 04:18 PM

just wondering why are there +r and -r's in the first place? for the majority i hear -r's are better becuase its more compatible with other players but is that all that their is to it? is there a sticky with the pro's and cons of + and -'s? arg what tiny brain i have, its giving me headaches!

11-03-2006, 01:47 PM	#1 (permalink)
itchy New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	DVD burning and playing (+) or (-) issue? Basically, every year I produce a home dvd of all my photos and videos etc and incorporate some of my mates pics etc too. This has been going on since 2001 now, so have had a few of them. Trouble is, as technology has got better, and so have my skills I am now using up to 6gb of dual layer dvd's!! The dual layer Dvd's I use are DVD + R DL's. These play fine in my pc's dvd player, but I can't get them to play on any of my, or my friends home dvd players. Is there likely to be confliction of compatibility with the + disc? as before I used dual layer discs, all my videos were produced on '-' single layer discs, which worked fine. Or is it likely to be something else? :S __________________ AMD Sempron 3000+ (1.99ghz) 3x 512mb DDR RAM Sony DVD RW DW-G120A LITE-ON LTR -481255 Maxtor 6L300R0 (300gb) Maxtor STM3320620A (320gb) NVIDIA GeForce Ti 4200 with AGP8X Phillips Sound Agent 2 Winfast DTV 1000T WDM Video Capture Card

11-03-2006, 02:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
jjsevdt Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Age: 24 Posts: 1,021	My guess would be the DVD players they're not working on. If you say the discs play fine on your computer then you know the information has been written to the disc. Are their DVD palyers newer? Because -R discs are more universally compatable for the most part, that's not to saying I haven't seen older, cheaper players play +R and not -R __________________ C2D E6420 @ 2.13GHz on AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA 2GB DDR2 533 1 - 80GB \| 1 - 60GB BFG Nvidia 7600GS Soundblaster Audigy PSN: JjSeVdT XBOX Live: JjSeVdT

11-03-2006, 04:25 PM	#3 (permalink)
itchy New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	My dvd players wont play the + dl discs. The pc does, as the drive is a Sony unit whihc plays '+' or '-' discs. Basically I've never seen '-' dual layer discs, so had to buy the '+' discs.... which I've never used before in any format. I'm not sure why they play on the pc and not the dvd players. The only thing that has been suggested to me before would be because the dvd in my pc is Sony, which I was told like to be different and designed the '+' discs, everyone else used '-' discs, which play fine in all my non sony dvd players, and also my friends. But now, these + discs only work on my sony dvd pc drive. Hard to explain properly!! __________________ AMD Sempron 3000+ (1.99ghz) 3x 512mb DDR RAM Sony DVD RW DW-G120A LITE-ON LTR -481255 Maxtor 6L300R0 (300gb) Maxtor STM3320620A (320gb) NVIDIA GeForce Ti 4200 with AGP8X Phillips Sound Agent 2 Winfast DTV 1000T WDM Video Capture Card

11-03-2006, 07:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
jjsevdt Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Age: 24 Posts: 1,021	Brand has nothing to do with it. I've never sceen DL-R disks either, but like I said before -R disks are better compatable with devices not specified to support a specific type. New DVD players generally specify which they'll support. __________________ C2D E6420 @ 2.13GHz on AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA 2GB DDR2 533 1 - 80GB \| 1 - 60GB BFG Nvidia 7600GS Soundblaster Audigy PSN: JjSeVdT XBOX Live: JjSeVdT Last edited by jjsevdt; 11-03-2006 at 07:51 PM.

11-03-2006, 07:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
The_Other_One Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lexington, NC Age: 23 Posts: 12,307	I've never used DL disks as I've never needed them, but I hear their compatability is pretty sparce. You'd be MUCH better off if you could use plain R's, and probably -R's as they seem to be slightly more compatable(though I've seen a few players that only play +R's) __________________ Urban De-Development * Athlon X2 4200 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| 7600GT * C2D T5250 \| 2048M RAM \| 160G HD \| Intel x3100 * G4 1.33GHz \| 512M RAM \| 40G HD \| Radeon 9200

11-03-2006, 11:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
lhuser Silver Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Canada Age: 19 Posts: 201	Really weird. I would suggest to try another brand, see if that works. And, does your mate's DVd players support DL? __________________ Pentium D 940 Based install Progress: 0%[\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|\|------]100% 71% Last part(s): ASUS P5KC and 1GB DDRII-667 \| Next part: Intel Pentium D 940 Components: 6/8 If I get a job within a month, the system will have a Celeron 4x series, so I can add an E6850 and an 8600GTS. The Celeron CPU will then have a new system built with ECS. Junk, but still working. Visit CV!

11-04-2006, 02:40 AM	#7 (permalink)
jjsevdt Diamond Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Antonio, TX Age: 24 Posts: 1,021	of course they support DL, most DVDs bought from the store are DL discs. __________________ C2D E6420 @ 2.13GHz on AsRock 4CoreDual-VSTA 2GB DDR2 533 1 - 80GB \| 1 - 60GB BFG Nvidia 7600GS Soundblaster Audigy PSN: JjSeVdT XBOX Live: JjSeVdT

11-04-2006, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
itchy New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	:lol: I see what you mean jjsevdt, I mis-understood first time round. I have a cheap dvd player that has played everything in the past, mpeg, wmv, wma, jpeg etc.... and being a few years old it is dual layer. I'll just have to find a dvd player that'll play these discs as I bought a job lot for a good price, but not good enough to try different discs! Cheers though guys. __________________ AMD Sempron 3000+ (1.99ghz) 3x 512mb DDR RAM Sony DVD RW DW-G120A LITE-ON LTR -481255 Maxtor 6L300R0 (300gb) Maxtor STM3320620A (320gb) NVIDIA GeForce Ti 4200 with AGP8X Phillips Sound Agent 2 Winfast DTV 1000T WDM Video Capture Card

11-05-2006, 01:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
itchy New Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 8	Anyone read reports like this before?: http://www.emedialive.com/Articles/R...ArticleID=9102 __________________ AMD Sempron 3000+ (1.99ghz) 3x 512mb DDR RAM Sony DVD RW DW-G120A LITE-ON LTR -481255 Maxtor 6L300R0 (300gb) Maxtor STM3320620A (320gb) NVIDIA GeForce Ti 4200 with AGP8X Phillips Sound Agent 2 Winfast DTV 1000T WDM Video Capture Card

11-05-2006, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
shareteehee Bronze Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 32	just wondering why are there +r and -r's in the first place? for the majority i hear -r's are better becuase its more compatible with other players but is that all that their is to it? is there a sticky with the pro's and cons of + and -'s? arg what tiny brain i have, its giving me headaches! __________________ 98% of the teenage population will try, does or has tried smoking pot. If you're one of the 2% who hasn't, copy & paste this into your signature

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