MP3 or WMA

hbcao2004 · 12-31-2004, 11:12 PM

I would like to convert music files that's larger than 128kb because my mp3 has low memory. Should I convert it to 128kb WMA or 128kb mp3? (my mp3 support those 2) And also what is CBR, VBR and 2 Pass?

**Cromewell** · 01-01-2005, 12:51 AM

you can reduce WMA/MP3Pro to 64kbs and not be able to hear the difference or standard MP3s to 96kbs. CBR is constant bit rate ie. 128kbs throughout entire file, VBR is variable bit rate, it intelligently uses more bits to represent complex audio signals to maximize sound quality and reduce file size

hbcao2004 · 01-01-2005, 04:07 AM

So you mean I can reduce the music file from 128kbs WMA/MP3 to 64kbs WMA/MP3 and I still wont hear much difference. I am a little confused. Would you please explain this to me in a bit detail please. What you mean by MP3pro, I had never heard that before, only heard of mp3. And did you mean that VBR will be more suitable for me? By the way, I am using the dBpower AMP Music Converter right now. Please explain this to me in detail. Your help is appreciated. Thank You,

**Cromewell** · 01-01-2005, 07:16 AM

going to 64kbs in standard MP3 you will hear some difference, WMA you wont. About MP3Pro, http://www.mp3prozone.com/ should cover what you might want to know about it. About VBR, I didn't mean it would be more or less suited for what you are trying to do, only explain the basics of how it works so you can decide on your own.

Maurik · 01-01-2005, 10:12 AM

I find that i can hear a difference between Mp3Pro and Mp3, this is because Mp3Pro is encoded at 22Khz as opposed to Mp3's 44Khz. I used to use Mp3Pro all the time when i only had a small Mp3player,96kbps "cd transparency" however, is good quality audio, but does not sound better than a high quality Mp3.

VBR is useful for some songs, for example, if the song is 24 minutes long, where there is a song for 3 minutes, and then 18 minutes of silence and a bonus track for the last 3 minutes it will be useful as during the silence the bitrate will be low, this means the vbr file will take up less space, as opposed to the cbr file which would take up ~20mb at 128kbps.

WMA audio format is an aweful format invented and maintained only by microsoft (

) its compression is better than that of mp3, meaning a song encoded in 64kbps WMA will sound the same as the same song encoded in 128kbps MP3, the WMA file will also take up approx half the space of the MP3 file.

robina_80 · 01-01-2005, 01:52 PM

mp3 is sh!t if you get a slightest scratch it fcuks up go with WMA i say

Maurik · 01-01-2005, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robina_80

mp3 is sh!t if you get a slightest scratch it fcuks up go with WMA i say

that just depends on what encoder u r using MMJB can adjust errors, I use WMP to encode Mp3 it works great. Also Mp3 is the most widely used format, if u look on any p2p network most of the ones that are shared are .mp3 files, mp3 files also work on every digital music player out, (bar some sonys, they dont count tho

) u dont see the iPod compatible wiv WMA's do u? No! nor do you see the creative zen compatible with AAC, but both are compatible with Mp3 players.

Also digital music players are often called Mp3 players, you dont hear some one calling their iPod an AAC player, or their sony an Atrac3 player? its all about standards...

hbcao2004 · 01-01-2005, 05:41 PM

Maybe I should just covert my music files to 96kbs WMA9 VBR. That sounds good?

Maurik · 01-02-2005, 03:49 PM

to me no, i would convert to 48/64kbps Mp3pro using music match jukebox, you dont have to rip them again with MMJB u can just convert the files

hbcao2004 · 01-02-2005, 10:06 PM

I have the music Junkbox, can you tell me how can I covert the file to 64kb mp3 pro by using it?

12-31-2004, 11:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
hbcao2004 Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 30	MP3 or WMA I would like to convert music files that's larger than 128kb because my mp3 has low memory. Should I convert it to 128kb WMA or 128kb mp3? (my mp3 support those 2) And also what is CBR, VBR and 2 Pass?

01-01-2005, 12:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,205	you can reduce WMA/MP3Pro to 64kbs and not be able to hear the difference or standard MP3s to 96kbs. CBR is constant bit rate ie. 128kbs throughout entire file, VBR is variable bit rate, it intelligently uses more bits to represent complex audio signals to maximize sound quality and reduce file size __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here. I must plug a couple comics because they are good :D: www.ctrlaltdel-online.com www.userfriendly.org

01-01-2005, 07:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,205	going to 64kbs in standard MP3 you will hear some difference, WMA you wont. About MP3Pro, http://www.mp3prozone.com/ should cover what you might want to know about it. About VBR, I didn't mean it would be more or less suited for what you are trying to do, only explain the basics of how it works so you can decide on your own. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here. I must plug a couple comics because they are good :D: www.ctrlaltdel-online.com www.userfriendly.org

01-01-2005, 10:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
Maurik Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 63	I find that i can hear a difference between Mp3Pro and Mp3, this is because Mp3Pro is encoded at 22Khz as opposed to Mp3's 44Khz. I used to use Mp3Pro all the time when i only had a small Mp3player,96kbps "cd transparency" however, is good quality audio, but does not sound better than a high quality Mp3. VBR is useful for some songs, for example, if the song is 24 minutes long, where there is a song for 3 minutes, and then 18 minutes of silence and a bonus track for the last 3 minutes it will be useful as during the silence the bitrate will be low, this means the vbr file will take up less space, as opposed to the cbr file which would take up ~20mb at 128kbps. WMA audio format is an aweful format invented and maintained only by microsoft ( ) its compression is better than that of mp3, meaning a song encoded in 64kbps WMA will sound the same as the same song encoded in 128kbps MP3, the WMA file will also take up approx half the space of the MP3 file. __________________ =-=-=Maurik=-=-= Click Main Box - Homebrew ;) ECS EZ BUDDIE AMD 2500+ Barton @ 1.9ghz 256mb PC 3200 DDR ram (soon to be 768mb) 80gb Maxtor Diamond Plus 9 108MB/s wlan LG CD-RW/DVD-Rom Drive Onboard 6.1 sound GeForce 4 MX 440 SE With AGP 8x 128mb Refurbishing Dell IBEG-2 Slot P3 700Mhz 128MB Rambus "Rimms" 20gb Maxtor DVD Drive CD-RW Drive Creative 5.1 Soundblaster Live nVidia Riva TNT 2 M64 32Mb

01-02-2005, 03:49 PM	#9 (permalink)
Maurik Bronze Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 63	to me no, i would convert to 48/64kbps Mp3pro using music match jukebox, you dont have to rip them again with MMJB u can just convert the files __________________ =-=-=Maurik=-=-= Click Main Box - Homebrew ;) ECS EZ BUDDIE AMD 2500+ Barton @ 1.9ghz 256mb PC 3200 DDR ram (soon to be 768mb) 80gb Maxtor Diamond Plus 9 108MB/s wlan LG CD-RW/DVD-Rom Drive Onboard 6.1 sound GeForce 4 MX 440 SE With AGP 8x 128mb Refurbishing Dell IBEG-2 Slot P3 700Mhz 128MB Rambus "Rimms" 20gb Maxtor DVD Drive CD-RW Drive Creative 5.1 Soundblaster Live nVidia Riva TNT 2 M64 32Mb

01-01-2005, 04:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
hbcao2004 Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 30	So you mean I can reduce the music file from 128kbs WMA/MP3 to 64kbs WMA/MP3 and I still wont hear much difference. I am a little confused. Would you please explain this to me in a bit detail please. What you mean by MP3pro, I had never heard that before, only heard of mp3. And did you mean that VBR will be more suitable for me? By the way, I am using the dBpower AMP Music Converter right now. Please explain this to me in detail. Your help is appreciated. Thank You,

01-01-2005, 01:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
robina_80 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: LONDON Age: 24 Posts: 1,975	mp3 is sh!t if you get a slightest scratch it fcuks up go with WMA i say

01-01-2005, 05:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
hbcao2004 Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 30	Maybe I should just covert my music files to 96kbs WMA9 VBR. That sounds good?

01-02-2005, 10:06 PM	#10 (permalink)
hbcao2004 Bronze Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 30	I have the music Junkbox, can you tell me how can I covert the file to 64kb mp3 pro by using it?

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