Overclocking risk?

Nac · 11-19-2006, 04:23 AM

I read the OC 101 thread and noticed that there is 2 ways to overlock. I also read in another post on these forums that a certain type of ocing is little to no risk at all?

Which is that? ID like to overclock but if something got fried i could not afford to replace it. This really is the deciding facter between an intel core 2 duo 36400 or an athlon 64 x2 4400+. I know the intels overclock ALOT better so for the same price i would have a faster cpu.

So yeah, is there a way to overclock that has pertty much 0% chance of frying anything?

Bobo · 11-19-2006, 04:26 AM

Do it slowly and watch the temps, nothing will go wrong.

Don't screw with the vcore, that's really the only thing that can immediately fry your processor.

Bl00dFox · 11-19-2006, 05:43 AM

whats the max overvolt for vcore without causing any long term damage?

Bobo · 11-19-2006, 05:45 AM

depends on the CPU. I would say 0....but i'm sure that there is an actual answer to that.

Bl00dFox · 11-19-2006, 05:59 AM

Ok bobo thanks man!

I wont touch my vcore!

**Cromewell** · 11-19-2006, 07:15 AM

Changing it will cause damage, the thing is it's not something you can really measure. I'd say you can 'safely' increase vcore by 15-20% or so but try to use every other option first. You don't want to raise it unless you absolutely have to and even then you want to use as small steps as you can. Personally I don't like going past +0.2V but if the heat is still managable you can usually go higher.

The semi-risk free overclocking is multiplier changing. You can only increase the multiplier on the FX and Extreme series CPUs

Bl00dFox · 11-19-2006, 08:18 AM

My question is... whats so special about multipliers? cant you just increase FSB to get the same effect>?

**dragon2309** · 11-19-2006, 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dFox

My question is... whats so special about multipliers? cant you just increase FSB to get the same effect>?

theres nothing special about multipliers, most of the time they are locked anyway. And yes, the "normal" way to overclock is to slowly increase the FSB... But then it gets to a point where you cant go any higher because the CPU doesnt have enough power going to it, thats when you jack up the vcore, then go back to the FSB and start increasing again...

There are of course complications with memory speeds and timings when overclocking

dragon

fade2green514 · 11-19-2006, 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo

Do it slowly and watch the temps, nothing will go wrong.

Don't screw with the vcore, that's really the only thing that can immediately fry your processor.

NOT TRUE! lol instability occurs...
basically the e6400 is faster than the 4400+ at stock clocks anyways... and it also runs cooler.
careful of how high you run your fsb. im currently running mine at 1333mhz and my proc at 2.32ghz, though i can get it to stabilize at 2.66ghz 1.1V and overvolted the nb and MCH voltage to +.1V, this makes my motherboard run hot since its got a crappy passive cooler...

so in this case my motherboard limited me BIGTIME lol if only intel chipsets let you run a lower multiplier on the fsb like AMD's lets me run on hypertransport...

my personal opinion is that once AMD comes out with K8L nothing will be nearly as good... as long as its paired with some really sweet memory... i mean they're keeping their processors alive at 90nm, once they switch to 65nm they'll be even better... then with K8L they'll double their performance per clock... or so i heard. lol

**Cromewell** · 11-19-2006, 10:48 PM

Changing the FSB affects nearly everything, changing the multiplier only affects the CPU. That is why it is the easiest/safest way to OC, if it fails/is unstable there's only 1 thing that it could be instead of a bunch.

11-19-2006, 04:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
Nac New Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 11	Overclocking risk? I read the OC 101 thread and noticed that there is 2 ways to overlock. I also read in another post on these forums that a certain type of ocing is little to no risk at all? Which is that? ID like to overclock but if something got fried i could not afford to replace it. This really is the deciding facter between an intel core 2 duo 36400 or an athlon 64 x2 4400+. I know the intels overclock ALOT better so for the same price i would have a faster cpu. So yeah, is there a way to overclock that has pertty much 0% chance of frying anything?

11-19-2006, 05:43 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bl00dFox Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 15 Posts: 566	whats the max overvolt for vcore without causing any long term damage? __________________ CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600 MOBO: Gigabyte 945P-S3 RAM: 2GB Kingston 667Mhz (4x512MB Dual Channel) GPU: Palit X1600XT PCI-E HDD: 160GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 Storage HDD: 320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200.10 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

11-19-2006, 05:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
Bl00dFox Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 15 Posts: 566	Ok bobo thanks man! I wont touch my vcore! __________________ CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600 MOBO: Gigabyte 945P-S3 RAM: 2GB Kingston 667Mhz (4x512MB Dual Channel) GPU: Palit X1600XT PCI-E HDD: 160GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 Storage HDD: 320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200.10 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

11-19-2006, 07:15 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,115	Changing it will cause damage, the thing is it's not something you can really measure. I'd say you can 'safely' increase vcore by 15-20% or so but try to use every other option first. You don't want to raise it unless you absolutely have to and even then you want to use as small steps as you can. Personally I don't like going past +0.2V but if the heat is still managable you can usually go higher. The semi-risk free overclocking is multiplier changing. You can only increase the multiplier on the FX and Extreme series CPUs __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here. I must plug a couple comics because they are good :D: www.ctrlaltdel-online.com www.userfriendly.org

11-19-2006, 08:18 AM	#7 (permalink)
Bl00dFox Platinum Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 15 Posts: 566	My question is... whats so special about multipliers? cant you just increase FSB to get the same effect>? __________________ CPU: Core 2 Duo E6600 MOBO: Gigabyte 945P-S3 RAM: 2GB Kingston 667Mhz (4x512MB Dual Channel) GPU: Palit X1600XT PCI-E HDD: 160GB SATA Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 Storage HDD: 320GB Seagate Barracuda SATA 7200.10 OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit

11-19-2006, 04:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
Bobo banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 16 Posts: 6,623	Do it slowly and watch the temps, nothing will go wrong. Don't screw with the vcore, that's really the only thing that can immediately fry your processor.

11-19-2006, 05:45 AM	#4 (permalink)
Bobo banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 16 Posts: 6,623	depends on the CPU. I would say 0....but i'm sure that there is an actual answer to that.

11-19-2006, 10:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 25 Posts: 10,115	Changing the FSB affects nearly everything, changing the multiplier only affects the CPU. That is why it is the easiest/safest way to OC, if it fails/is unstable there's only 1 thing that it could be instead of a bunch. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in ruttin' command here. I must plug a couple comics because they are good :D: www.ctrlaltdel-online.com www.userfriendly.org

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