Problem from the beginning

dainbramaged · 12-02-2006, 04:06 PM

Hi everyone,

Here's the problem. I just recently bought a high end system:

Asus P5W DH Deluxe mg
2x1024 OCZ value ram
XFX 8800gts 640meg vid card
Thermaltake TR2500 500 watt ps
Thermaltake 'matrix' case
160gig sata2 hd
(I can list anything else, if needed)

I have flashed the bios to the lastest version (1602). Unfortunately, I've had to use Win98 to initially install, but am going to overwrite (update) with win xp pro shortly. I've gotten everything started up but I get this message before going into windows:

"Insufficient memory to initialize Windows, quit one or more memory resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities from your CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer".....and then my comp automatically shuts down.

I was wondering:
1. Is it because it's Win98, which has a hard time recognizing the newer components so I'll need to switch to Win XP sooner than I anticipated, or
2. Is it because of the conflict that ASUS mb's have with OCZ ram? I've attempted to change the latency but nothing's worked to date. On boot up, the comp recognizes that there is 2gigs of ram, so I wasn't sure if this was the problem or not..

any help is greatly appreciated!

(p.s this is a double post from Operating Systems)

[-0MEGA-] · 12-02-2006, 04:17 PM

I would think it is because of Win98. I tried using it on my Pentium D build a few months ago and I got tons of errors, and with yours you have even newer hardware.

Do you have any other way to upgrade to XP?

dainbramaged · 12-02-2006, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [-0MEGA-]

I would think it is because of Win98. I tried using it on my Pentium D build a few months ago and I got tons of errors, and with yours you have even newer hardware.

Do you have any other way to upgrade to XP?

Well I tried it but there's no autostart. When I used the Win98 boot disk to get things loaded (ie. windows) and tried to use the XP disk I've got, I couldn't get setup.exe to work. It said I couldn't load it from DOS.

gamerman4 · 12-02-2006, 05:57 PM

ok so lemme see if I'm getting all this right...
1. Your WinXP CD is not bootable and you have to upgrade from a previous OS to install it...
2. Win98 is giving you errors during boot-up
ok
well if you have a legal Windows XP license-key then I'd say go and ask a friend if they have a bootable Windows XP cd so you can do a full install instead of an upgrade. I'm pretty sure thats legal...
If none of your friends have a bootable XP CD then I'd say try reinstalling Win98 once more to see if that might fix anything.
Hope this might help...

dainbramaged · 12-02-2006, 06:56 PM

Yes, the Win XP does not seem to be bootable. I do have my valid key, so I'll give that a try. I had a suspicion that the Win98 could be the problem since the ram does show up during the bootup process, but that since my components were newer and that there might be compatability issues. I've tried installing the Win98, which has loaded up on the C drive, but it won't properly load (ie. actually have windows come up on screen). I just get that error message.

This would be easier to explain if I were home at my comp though...

ADE · 12-02-2006, 07:27 PM

Try going into BIOS and setting the boot priority to CD drive first. That should detect it even if its not boot-able. Its just a hunch cuz I don't know much about 98 and how it works too well, but that's what I did with XP.

dainbramaged · 12-02-2006, 07:40 PM

I'll give it a go. Maybe deleting the Win98 first..

Thanks for all the responses though. I do appreciate them.

pdc76 · 12-02-2006, 08:28 PM

i don't think an xp upgrade disc is bootable. is it an upgrade disc? if so, you have to install 98 first. i wonder if an upgrade key would work with a full install disc?

StrangleHold · 12-02-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dainbramaged

I
"Insufficient memory to initialize Windows, quit one or more memory resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities from your CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer".....and then my comp automatically shuts down.

Windows 98 freaks out with more than 512mbs of ram, Theres a patch for it!

**Cromewell** · 12-02-2006, 09:37 PM

Windows 9x doesn't play nice with the i965 chipset. You'll have get a newer OS.

12-02-2006, 04:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
dainbramaged New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8	Problem from the beginning Hi everyone, Here's the problem. I just recently bought a high end system: Asus P5W DH Deluxe mg 2x1024 OCZ value ram XFX 8800gts 640meg vid card Thermaltake TR2500 500 watt ps Thermaltake 'matrix' case 160gig sata2 hd (I can list anything else, if needed) I have flashed the bios to the lastest version (1602). Unfortunately, I've had to use Win98 to initially install, but am going to overwrite (update) with win xp pro shortly. I've gotten everything started up but I get this message before going into windows: "Insufficient memory to initialize Windows, quit one or more memory resident programs or remove unnecessary utilities from your CONFIG.SYS or AUTOEXEC.BAT files, and restart your computer".....and then my comp automatically shuts down. I was wondering: 1. Is it because it's Win98, which has a hard time recognizing the newer components so I'll need to switch to Win XP sooner than I anticipated, or 2. Is it because of the conflict that ASUS mb's have with OCZ ram? I've attempted to change the latency but nothing's worked to date. On boot up, the comp recognizes that there is 2gigs of ram, so I wasn't sure if this was the problem or not.. any help is greatly appreciated! (p.s this is a double post from Operating Systems)

12-02-2006, 04:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
[-0MEGA-] VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Goffstown, NH Age: 21 Posts: 28,953	I would think it is because of Win98. I tried using it on my Pentium D build a few months ago and I got tons of errors, and with yours you have even newer hardware. Do you have any other way to upgrade to XP? __________________ Core 2 Quad Q9550 @ 4.1GHz Asus Rampage Formula X48 ATI 4870 X2 2GB GDDR5 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 960 300GB Raptor // 2x 750GB Creative SB X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty SilverStone 750W +12V@60A 3DMark06: 22605 www.photosbygeoff.com

12-02-2006, 05:57 PM	#4 (permalink)
gamerman4 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Arkansas Age: 19 Posts: 2,806	ok so lemme see if I'm getting all this right... 1. Your WinXP CD is not bootable and you have to upgrade from a previous OS to install it... 2. Win98 is giving you errors during boot-up ok well if you have a legal Windows XP license-key then I'd say go and ask a friend if they have a bootable Windows XP cd so you can do a full install instead of an upgrade. I'm pretty sure thats legal... If none of your friends have a bootable XP CD then I'd say try reinstalling Win98 once more to see if that might fix anything. Hope this might help... __________________ Intel Q6600 @ 3.00 Ghz Xigmatek HDT-S1283 ASUS P5Q SE PLUS HDDs:1 x 500GB 1x 750GB 1x 1000GB 2 x 2GB OCZ DDR2 1066 ATi Radeon HD 4870 1024MB PC Power & Cooling S61EPS 610W Logitech Z-5500 there shouldn't be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

12-02-2006, 08:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
pdc76 Platinum Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Glassboro, NJ Age: 33 Posts: 876	i don't think an xp upgrade disc is bootable. is it an upgrade disc? if so, you have to install 98 first. i wonder if an upgrade key would work with a full install disc? __________________ QX9650 @ 4.00Ghz w/ Apogee GTZ / EVGA 780i w/ 3-way SLI 4Gb (2x2Gb) Dominator DDR2 1066Mhz 5-5-5-15-2T w/ Fan 3x nVidia 8800 GTX SLI / Koolance VID-282s w/ 1/2" Nozzles SB X-FI X-Tremegamer FATAL1TY Edition 7.1 w/ 64Mb X-Ram 2x Sata II 320Gb Raid, 2x Sata 110Gb Raid, 1x Sata II 200Gb Super Multi Blue Blu-Ray & HD-DVD / Swiftech MCP-655 Pump Koolance EHX-1020BK Rad / Koolance 80mm Reservoir All 1/2" Antec Quattro 1000W PSU / Lian-Li Rocketfish Full Tower case

12-02-2006, 09:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cromewell Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Canada Age: 26 Posts: 11,802	Windows 9x doesn't play nice with the i965 chipset. You'll have get a newer OS. __________________ You know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I go get and beat you with 'til ya understand who's in command here. www.userfriendly.org

12-02-2006, 06:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
dainbramaged New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8	Yes, the Win XP does not seem to be bootable. I do have my valid key, so I'll give that a try. I had a suspicion that the Win98 could be the problem since the ram does show up during the bootup process, but that since my components were newer and that there might be compatability issues. I've tried installing the Win98, which has loaded up on the C drive, but it won't properly load (ie. actually have windows come up on screen). I just get that error message. This would be easier to explain if I were home at my comp though...

12-02-2006, 07:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
ADE banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Age: 16 Posts: 3,371	Try going into BIOS and setting the boot priority to CD drive first. That should detect it even if its not boot-able. Its just a hunch cuz I don't know much about 98 and how it works too well, but that's what I did with XP.

12-02-2006, 07:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
dainbramaged New Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 8	I'll give it a go. Maybe deleting the Win98 first.. Thanks for all the responses though. I do appreciate them.

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