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fgrir · 01-21-2007, 05:54 PM

I assume your talking about a 2 line jack with dsl and phone # in both sides (lineshare). Thats easily cured by using a 2 port filter...1 side for the dsl modem the other for phone service including dial up. The best way to wire a dsl line is to filter @ the nid and make one jack dsl only, This method cuts out inside wiring (IW) bridgetaps that alot of time effect line quality to the modem. Alarms can also cause issues, For that we have your alarm co install a filter. Thats why it's best to check @ the nid to see if there are any inside influences on the signal.

shenry · 01-22-2007, 01:53 AM

You say that when you downloaded files the speed was around 49-50 kbps this is actually Kilo Bytes while they advertise it as 512 Kilo Bits you have to remember that a bit is an eighth of a byte. You can tell the difference by looking at the b in kbps or KBps the capital means that its kilobytes and the lowercase means its kilobytes. I have the same speed download speed as you and I usually get around 50-57 KBps you will never get the 64 KBps you paid for thats also why you need a faster connection to watch 512kbps videos.I also find that antivirus programs slow down you speed a bit.(or a byte!)

PC eye · 01-22-2007, 03:20 AM

The 2.7mb there represents the 2.7 megabits per second. The average for the entire state is roughly 0.91 with the 2.7 figure nearly double that seen with T-1 lines. The jack here actually goes directly to a residential dsl hub. The way the installer set this up was to run the line around the circumference of the room to install one dsl jack near one system. That comes in from a T split on the line coming from the hub.

The first being host can be excluded with the last being on a different floor seeing a line by itself. But even with two on the same line running the calculation for one system on the shared line totals 337.5kilobytes per second. As for antivirus programs showing any interference that would be from any antiphising filter and email scanner incorporated into it. The loss there would be from that actively scanning Outlook Express and even Thunderbird if it covers that as well.

fgrir · 01-23-2007, 03:01 AM

If i'm understanding you right, You have one dsl jack that feeds your residential gateway. That makes perfect sense, Then you say that..that line comes from a hub also. I think ? you mean to say is you have a residential gateway as your main modem/router then ethernet cable feeding other computers. A dsl line can only support one modem so the one being on a different floor must be feed by an ethernet cable via hub or straight wired.

PC eye · 01-23-2007, 04:59 AM

The hub is directly connected to the nik card on the host. But the tech that did the wiring tied one into a standard box with one jack running out of that location down the length of a hallway to the T split. One goes through a wall on one side to another jack there. And the other does the same going into another room on the opposite side.

On the system here the wall jack was mounted high on the wall according to instructions there. There's an extention wire dropping down to the 3ft. usb adapter. That's the way it was done! instead of seeing a separate feed off of the hub for each of the four systems running here.

fgrir · 01-23-2007, 02:48 PM

Best i can tell your network runs off an older system we don't use any more that was used with the 2wire routers. Can't remember ? it was called (hpna...I think) but it had filters on all the (phone jacks) and allowed multiple computers to share the high speed without the use of ethernet. That is a very poor setup and i dont believe supported by 2wire anymore. You'ld be better off going wireless. But i seriously doubt that is the original posters problem as i have only ran across that configuration in the field once.

PC eye · 01-24-2007, 04:50 AM

The jack mentioned comes off of a two wire dsl hub no doubt. That is connected to the hub by a standard dsl extension cord. On the opposite side of the wall where the jack is where you see the single run until it is split as the T. That was done instead of hard wiring a single wire directly to the Two Wirehome portal hub. And that was replaced here as well with the wireless where the installers were "having fun"?! initially trying to get that to work.

At seeing the problems Bronson7 is having I would be "on the phone(regular)" raising a storm there. If you are paying premium rates for a service like some ISPs see you "expect" a working installation. Without knowing the specific setup there you can only advise so much.

01-21-2007, 05:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
fgrir Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indianapolis Age: 44 Posts: 26	I assume your talking about a 2 line jack with dsl and phone # in both sides (lineshare). Thats easily cured by using a 2 port filter...1 side for the dsl modem the other for phone service including dial up. The best way to wire a dsl line is to filter @ the nid and make one jack dsl only, This method cuts out inside wiring (IW) bridgetaps that alot of time effect line quality to the modem. Alarms can also cause issues, For that we have your alarm co install a filter. Thats why it's best to check @ the nid to see if there are any inside influences on the signal. __________________ amd athlon 64 3000+ 2.0 ghz 19" hansol monitor: XFX GeForce 6800 Xtreme 256MB AGP :) 80 gig hd:( and a badass nerd case w/7 fans and lots of blue lights! +2 more desktops and 3 laptops 512mb pc2700:(

01-23-2007, 03:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
fgrir Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indianapolis Age: 44 Posts: 26	If i'm understanding you right, You have one dsl jack that feeds your residential gateway. That makes perfect sense, Then you say that..that line comes from a hub also. I think ? you mean to say is you have a residential gateway as your main modem/router then ethernet cable feeding other computers. A dsl line can only support one modem so the one being on a different floor must be feed by an ethernet cable via hub or straight wired. __________________ amd athlon 64 3000+ 2.0 ghz 19" hansol monitor: XFX GeForce 6800 Xtreme 256MB AGP :) 80 gig hd:( and a badass nerd case w/7 fans and lots of blue lights! +2 more desktops and 3 laptops 512mb pc2700:(

01-23-2007, 02:48 PM	#16 (permalink)
fgrir Bronze Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Indianapolis Age: 44 Posts: 26	Best i can tell your network runs off an older system we don't use any more that was used with the 2wire routers. Can't remember ? it was called (hpna...I think) but it had filters on all the (phone jacks) and allowed multiple computers to share the high speed without the use of ethernet. That is a very poor setup and i dont believe supported by 2wire anymore. You'ld be better off going wireless. But i seriously doubt that is the original posters problem as i have only ran across that configuration in the field once. __________________ amd athlon 64 3000+ 2.0 ghz 19" hansol monitor: XFX GeForce 6800 Xtreme 256MB AGP :) 80 gig hd:( and a badass nerd case w/7 fans and lots of blue lights! +2 more desktops and 3 laptops 512mb pc2700:(

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01-22-2007, 03:20 AM	#13 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	The 2.7mb there represents the 2.7 megabits per second. The average for the entire state is roughly 0.91 with the 2.7 figure nearly double that seen with T-1 lines. The jack here actually goes directly to a residential dsl hub. The way the installer set this up was to run the line around the circumference of the room to install one dsl jack near one system. That comes in from a T split on the line coming from the hub. The first being host can be excluded with the last being on a different floor seeing a line by itself. But even with two on the same line running the calculation for one system on the shared line totals 337.5kilobytes per second. As for antivirus programs showing any interference that would be from any antiphising filter and email scanner incorporated into it. The loss there would be from that actively scanning Outlook Express and even Thunderbird if it covers that as well.

01-23-2007, 04:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	The hub is directly connected to the nik card on the host. But the tech that did the wiring tied one into a standard box with one jack running out of that location down the length of a hallway to the T split. One goes through a wall on one side to another jack there. And the other does the same going into another room on the opposite side. On the system here the wall jack was mounted high on the wall according to instructions there. There's an extention wire dropping down to the 3ft. usb adapter. That's the way it was done! instead of seeing a separate feed off of the hub for each of the four systems running here.

01-24-2007, 04:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,226	The jack mentioned comes off of a two wire dsl hub no doubt. That is connected to the hub by a standard dsl extension cord. On the opposite side of the wall where the jack is where you see the single run until it is split as the T. That was done instead of hard wiring a single wire directly to the Two Wirehome portal hub. And that was replaced here as well with the wireless where the installers were "having fun"?! initially trying to get that to work. At seeing the problems Bronson7 is having I would be "on the phone(regular)" raising a storm there. If you are paying premium rates for a service like some ISPs see you "expect" a working installation. Without knowing the specific setup there you can only advise so much.