ComputerForum.com ComputerForum.com  
Go Back   Computer Forum > Computer Systems > Desktop Computers

Closed Thread
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-21-2007, 01:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 45
Default Bad sectors

An old harddrive got reformat
Trying to rocover allocation unit" came up
Has been going for 3 hours and only at 1058***
Some one told me that the longer it runs the more likely it is garbage.
Its a 6 gig
Should I just scrap it now or let it run all nite.
frankiee is offline  


Old 01-21-2007, 01:50 AM   #2 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
PC eye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a pc
Posts: 19,730
Default

3hrs. and hung? The drive could very well be too far gone or the tool used is the problem. What are you using to reformat the drive with for what OS?
PC eye is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 01:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
Bronze Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 45
Default

I am using a 98 floppy bootdisk
The file format that I was formating was NtFS
It is not hung all the time
It is slow, very slow
Does that mean I have a lot of bad sectors
Should I just toss the drive now
I dont want to waste my time
frankiee is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 02:44 AM   #4 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
The_Other_One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lexington, NC
Age: 23
Posts: 12,368
Default

If you can find a low level format utility(zero write) you may be able to correct those bad sectors. I think I have one bookmarked in my links page, but it's a windows utility. I assume you need a dos based one?

I had some older one by Seagate... I don't know if it'll be around their site anymore.
__________________
Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | 7600GT
Laptop1 * C2D T5550 | 3G RAM | 120G HD | Intel x3100
Laptop2 * C2D T5250 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | Intel x3100

The_Other_One is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 04:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
PC eye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a pc
Posts: 19,730
Default

That explains the lengthy time. You can't format an NTFS partition with a dos boot disk. The most you could accomplish there is to delete the current partition and create a new Fat32 with fdisk. For a quick wipe of the drive there by floppy Active Killdisk has a freeware version that writes binary zeros to the intended hard drive depite the OS on it. http://www.killdisk.com/downloadfree.htm
PC eye is offline  


Old 01-21-2007, 04:30 AM   #6 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
The_Other_One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lexington, NC
Age: 23
Posts: 12,368
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by PC eye View Post
That explains the lengthy time. You can't format an NTFS partition with a dos boot disk.
You can't format an NTFS in dos, period. DOS won't even assign a drive letter for an NTFS partition. The only way to format a drive is by using FAT. However, you must first partition the drive. fdisk will see the NTFS partition, but the file system is "Unknown"
__________________
Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | 7600GT
Laptop1 * C2D T5550 | 3G RAM | 120G HD | Intel x3100
Laptop2 * C2D T5250 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | Intel x3100

The_Other_One is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 06:12 AM   #7 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
PC eye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a pc
Posts: 19,730
Default

That's what I just said. The only access possible to an NTFS partition when booted from a 98 floppy is called NT4Dos. That simply allows you access and nothing else. Regardless of running 98, 98SE, ME, 2K, XP, Vista, or Linux the one partitioning tool that proves itself worthwhile every time is free. It helps to have a cd writer however. http://sourceforge.net/project/showf...kage_id=173828

The Gnome Partition Editor known as GParted will clean off whatever partition is already on the drive and even create a Fat32 primary if not going with NTFS or VFat. For 98 you would simply boot with the 98 floppy later to use the format.com tool for a complete Fat32 format of a new primary.
PC eye is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 06:31 AM   #8 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
The_Other_One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lexington, NC
Age: 23
Posts: 12,368
Default

You said you can't format NTFS in DOS, refering to the lengthy time required for the above format...
__________________
Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | 7600GT
Laptop1 * C2D T5550 | 3G RAM | 120G HD | Intel x3100
Laptop2 * C2D T5250 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | Intel x3100

The_Other_One is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 07:02 AM   #9 (permalink)
Diamond Member
 
PC eye's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Inside a pc
Posts: 19,730
Default

You can't! With GParted you remove the NTFS partition currently on the drive and create a new Fat32 type partition. From the 98 floppy you then use the format.com tool to format the newly created Fat32 replacement. GParted can create as well as remove the varying partition types.
PC eye is offline  
Old 01-21-2007, 07:21 AM   #10 (permalink)
Super Moderator
 
The_Other_One's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Lexington, NC
Age: 23
Posts: 12,368
Default

I don't feel like arguing tonight...

This is the program I was refering to. It's a bit of a pain to use because all info must be entered manually(unless you do happen to have one of the pre-entered seagate drives) but I know it works. Do this, then a regular format. Typically, this will correct the bad sectors, but it is not guaranteed.

http://br.geocities.com/downloads_pc...o/sgatfmt4.htm
http://br.geocities.com/downloads_pc...s/sgatfmt4.zip
__________________
Desktop * Athlon X2 4200 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | 7600GT
Laptop1 * C2D T5550 | 3G RAM | 120G HD | Intel x3100
Laptop2 * C2D T5250 | 2G RAM | 160G HD | Intel x3100

The_Other_One is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Computer Media Problems(REALLY BAD!) Serpento Desktop Computers 3 01-10-2007 02:35 AM
very bad lag when playing mod pacific assault statue12 Computer Games and Consoles 6 01-31-2006 01:22 PM
Windows replaced bad clusters in file messiahnet Computer Memory and Hard Drives 2 01-01-2006 10:24 PM
Good idea? bad idea? good? bad? lets vote. M0ddingMan1a CPUs and Overclocking 2 06-07-2005 08:26 PM
Troubleshooting a bad CPU Eddie Haskell CPUs and Overclocking 8 02-11-2005 02:39 PM

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:30 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 ©2008, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2002-2008 Computer Forum and Web Design Forum