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computermaineack · 02-21-2007, 03:48 AM

A few moments ago, I was playing Flight Simulator X, flying an ILS approach into Logan Int'l in Boston..anyway...I'm maybe 20 miles from the airport, when I hear that familar "clink" and the screen goes blank, and the computer restarted. This happened to me about a week or two ago, except the computer didn't restart, it just stayed off. My temps aren't bad, and I can't see why the CPU wouldn't be stable, as it's running at 100% 24/7 and I never have stability issues...I only have the problem while FSX is running. Full load temps are about 45ºC at the time, and as in my sig my CPU is overclocked slightly about 300mhz, to 2.5ghz. PSU rails are fairly stable as well, so I don't know what would have casued it.

Screenshot of SpeedFan:

computermaineack · 02-22-2007, 03:55 AM

Happened again earlier today, only I got a blue screen of death rather than the computer just restarting..anyone know what could be wrong?

PC eye · 02-22-2007, 04:04 AM

Take note on the error message if any seen when seeing a BSOD. That can be essential in determining if it is hardware or driver related. Generally a driver trying to load into a reserved memory address will see the blue screen of foobar. But if your board temps or power demand was too high that would explain the system shutdown. The temps there are far from overheating for cpu and board. video card?

computermaineack · 02-22-2007, 04:44 AM

The error message on the BSOD was "IRQL DRIVER NOT LESS OR EQUAL"..but I've had other error messages...I'm not sure what the temps are for the video card, but I don't think they're too bad, considering there's a huge fan right next to it...

PC eye · 02-22-2007, 06:17 AM

This type of error is seen so often even with MS games Microsoft has a few steps to look at for correcting this besides reinstalling or simply updating video and sound drivers. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q228985/ Are you running onboard sound or do you have a card installed?

computermaineack · 02-22-2007, 07:42 AM

Onboard sound, mobo is an MSI K8N Neo4-F. Under the "Applies to" section in the article you provided the link for, FSX isn't mentioned.

gottabamd · 02-22-2007, 03:14 PM

have you run prime95 on your oc'd puter? that will tell you if its a stability problem. and yes ive had my puter shut down in a game, i dropped the oc a lil and it doesnt shut down anymore.

PC eye · 02-22-2007, 08:46 PM

The link there applies to more games then listed. That's kind of a general purpose remedy rather then specific to one game. 7.1 onboard sound plus an oced cpu with a game that puts a demand on the processor? By pcing you are alrready placing stress there. When loading it up even though temps are low it's apparently pulling more power then intended. Newer boards have their overvoltage and overheat protection circuits.

If you have something like cool'n'quiet enabled the voltage limiter is cutting in. Review the specifications on that model seen at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...eo4-F&class=mb

Kornowski · 02-22-2007, 08:56 PM

It isn't good to have your CPU at 100% 24/7 you know, That could be the problem, Your work horse can't pull the load you've giving it

computermaineack · 02-22-2007, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PC eye

The link there applies to more games then listed. That's kind of a general purpose remedy rather then specific to one game. 7.1 onboard sound plus an oced cpu with a game that puts a demand on the processor? By pcing you are alrready placing stress there. When loading it up even though temps are low it's apparently pulling more power then intended. Newer boards have their overvoltage and overheat protection circuits.

If you have something like cool'n'quiet enabled the voltage limiter is cutting in. Review the specifications on that model seen at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...eo4-F&class=mb

So what should I do to prevent from crashing while playing a game? Should I disable F@H while playing the game to prevent the CPU from running at 100%? Cool n' Quiet is indeed enabled, should I disable it?

02-21-2007, 03:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
computermaineack Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,260	crash A few moments ago, I was playing Flight Simulator X, flying an ILS approach into Logan Int'l in Boston..anyway...I'm maybe 20 miles from the airport, when I hear that familar "clink" and the screen goes blank, and the computer restarted. This happened to me about a week or two ago, except the computer didn't restart, it just stayed off. My temps aren't bad, and I can't see why the CPU wouldn't be stable, as it's running at 100% 24/7 and I never have stability issues...I only have the problem while FSX is running. Full load temps are about 45ºC at the time, and as in my sig my CPU is overclocked slightly about 300mhz, to 2.5ghz. PSU rails are fairly stable as well, so I don't know what would have casued it. Screenshot of SpeedFan: __________________ "Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris said, "Hillary Clinton will be the next President, but she'll be the worst President we've ever seen." After hearing this, President Bush said, "Wait a minute, I'm not finished yet."" -Conan O'Brien CPU: Q6600 G0 Mobo: eVGA 680i NF67-A1 Case: Antec P180B GPU: eVGA 8800GTS G92 512mb HSF: Tuniq Tower 120 RAM: 4gb DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2 4-4-4-12 PSU: Antec True Power Trio 550w

02-22-2007, 03:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
computermaineack Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,260	Happened again earlier today, only I got a blue screen of death rather than the computer just restarting..anyone know what could be wrong? __________________ "Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris said, "Hillary Clinton will be the next President, but she'll be the worst President we've ever seen." After hearing this, President Bush said, "Wait a minute, I'm not finished yet."" -Conan O'Brien CPU: Q6600 G0 Mobo: eVGA 680i NF67-A1 Case: Antec P180B GPU: eVGA 8800GTS G92 512mb HSF: Tuniq Tower 120 RAM: 4gb DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2 4-4-4-12 PSU: Antec True Power Trio 550w

02-22-2007, 04:44 AM	#4 (permalink)
computermaineack Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,260	The error message on the BSOD was "IRQL DRIVER NOT LESS OR EQUAL"..but I've had other error messages...I'm not sure what the temps are for the video card, but I don't think they're too bad, considering there's a huge fan right next to it... __________________ "Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris said, "Hillary Clinton will be the next President, but she'll be the worst President we've ever seen." After hearing this, President Bush said, "Wait a minute, I'm not finished yet."" -Conan O'Brien CPU: Q6600 G0 Mobo: eVGA 680i NF67-A1 Case: Antec P180B GPU: eVGA 8800GTS G92 512mb HSF: Tuniq Tower 120 RAM: 4gb DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2 4-4-4-12 PSU: Antec True Power Trio 550w

02-22-2007, 07:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
computermaineack Diamond Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 2,260	Onboard sound, mobo is an MSI K8N Neo4-F. Under the "Applies to" section in the article you provided the link for, FSX isn't mentioned. __________________ "Former Clinton advisor Dick Morris said, "Hillary Clinton will be the next President, but she'll be the worst President we've ever seen." After hearing this, President Bush said, "Wait a minute, I'm not finished yet."" -Conan O'Brien CPU: Q6600 G0 Mobo: eVGA 680i NF67-A1 Case: Antec P180B GPU: eVGA 8800GTS G92 512mb HSF: Tuniq Tower 120 RAM: 4gb DDR2-800 Corsair XMS2 4-4-4-12 PSU: Antec True Power Trio 550w

02-22-2007, 03:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
gottabamd Silver Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 118	have you run prime95 on your oc'd puter? that will tell you if its a stability problem. and yes ive had my puter shut down in a game, i dropped the oc a lil and it doesnt shut down anymore. __________________ HOME PC: ASUS P5K Deluxe 0404 \| C2D E6400 Lapped @ 3.2GHz 400MHz FSB 1.2875V \| Zalman 9500 \| TeamXtreme 2Gb DDR2-667 @ DDR2-800 4-4-4-12 2.0v + Crucial 10th Ann. 2Gb @ same \| 8800gts 640Mb @ stock for now ( no reason to OC) \| 2x36Gb Raptors RAID 0 \| 200Gb Maxtor SATA \| 720W Enermax Infinity WORK PC: ASUS P4P800 \| Pentium 4 2.8 \| 1GB Corsair XMS 1GB \| EVGA 7800GS @ 529/1512 \| 80GB WD \| Antec Smartpower 350 PSU LAPTOP: Toshiba Satellite L35S2151 \| Celeron M 1.8GHz \| 512Mb RAM \| 60GB HDD

02-22-2007, 04:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	Take note on the error message if any seen when seeing a BSOD. That can be essential in determining if it is hardware or driver related. Generally a driver trying to load into a reserved memory address will see the blue screen of foobar. But if your board temps or power demand was too high that would explain the system shutdown. The temps there are far from overheating for cpu and board. video card?

02-22-2007, 06:17 AM	#5 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	This type of error is seen so often even with MS games Microsoft has a few steps to look at for correcting this besides reinstalling or simply updating video and sound drivers. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/q228985/ Are you running onboard sound or do you have a card installed?

02-22-2007, 08:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
PC eye Diamond Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside a pc Posts: 19,730	The link there applies to more games then listed. That's kind of a general purpose remedy rather then specific to one game. 7.1 onboard sound plus an oced cpu with a game that puts a demand on the processor? By pcing you are alrready placing stress there. When loading it up even though temps are low it's apparently pulling more power then intended. Newer boards have their overvoltage and overheat protection circuits. If you have something like cool'n'quiet enabled the voltage limiter is cutting in. Review the specifications on that model seen at http://www.msicomputer.com/product/p...eo4-F&class=mb

02-22-2007, 08:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
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