cpu or ram??

opera936 · 01-29-2005, 08:55 PM

i'm considering upgrading my socket478 p4 1.8ghz to a higher speed cpu i had considered upgrading the same family pentium.....but it's too expensive but celeron is much cheaper i only had enought money to go for celeron D around 2.8ghz same L1 and 2 as the current one would it be faster/slower because its celeron , pc spec below

Cpu wanted: http://tekgems.com/Products/et-1270...0d478-n.htm?frg
my friend told me that i should upgrade ram instead of a newer/faster cpu. any recommendation?
CPU-Z Report

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CPU-Z version 1.24.

CPU(s)
Number of CPUs 1

Name Intel Pentium 4
Code Name Willamette
Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz
Family / Model / Stepping F 1 2
Extended Family / Model 0 0
Brand ID 8
Package mPGA-478
Core Stepping D0
Technology 0.18 µ
Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2
CPU Clock Speed 1794.5 MHz
Clock multiplier x 18.0
Front Side Bus Frequency 99.7 MHz
Bus Speed 398.8 MHz
L1 Data Cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
L2 Speed 1794.5 MHz (Full)
L2 Location On Chip
L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
L2 Bus Width 256 bits

Mainboard and chipset
Motherboard manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation
Motherboard model Dimension 8200,
BIOS vendor Dell Computer Corporation
BIOS revision A03
BIOS release date 12/07/2001
Chipset Intel i850 rev. A3
Southbridge Intel 82801BA (ICH2) rev. 4

Graphic Interface AGP
AGP Status enabled, rev. 2.0
AGP Data Transfert Rate 4x
AGP Max Rate 4x
AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled
AGP Aperture Size 256 MBytes

Memory
DRAM Type RDRAM
DRAM Size 512 MBytes
DRAM Frequency 299.1 MHz
FSBRAM 4:3
Total CAS# (tRDRAM) 10 clocks
Row To Column (tRCD) 7 clocks
# of memory modules 4
Module 0 Samsung RDRAM PC800 - 128 MBytes
Module 1 Samsung RDRAM PC800 - 128 MBytes
Module 2 RDRAM PC714 - 256 MBytes
Module 3 RDRAM PC714 - 256 MBytes

Software
Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Workstation Service Pack 1 (Build 2600)
DirectX version 9.0c

Bobo · 01-29-2005, 09:57 PM

If you want to upgrade the CPU, go with a P4. Celerons are crap, total wasted money. Save your money and get a P4

How much RAM do you have? Chances are that he is right

**Praetor** · 01-29-2005, 10:11 PM

How much money is available? In all reality you should prolly consider something radical since there's not much you can do ... with RDRAM that is

opera936 · 01-30-2005, 02:02 AM

i think i will go for the ram around 80 bucks is available thanks for the recommedations though.

robina_80 · 01-30-2005, 03:32 AM

just get more ram but if your into gaming get the best cpu your money can buy and get a decent mobo

mgoldb2 · 01-30-2005, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robina_80

just get more ram but if your into gaming get the best cpu your money can buy and get a decent mobo

That not always true the best cpu in the world wont make any difference if you dont have enough ram. for example running windows xp with 128 ram. That might be a extreme case but I acturally knew someone doing that and then he ask me why his computer was sooooo slow.

**Praetor** · 01-30-2005, 04:00 AM

Whoa, people, he's got 512MB of RAM which is more than sufficient .... the problem is getting more RDRAM -- its expensive and not future compatible

**Cromewell** · 01-30-2005, 05:34 AM

unless I read that wrong hes got 768 (2x256, 2x128) and yet it says DRAM size 512...how does CPU-Z read the dummy RD sticks?

Quote:

Module 0 Samsung RDRAM PC800 - 128 MBytes
Module 1 Samsung RDRAM PC800 - 128 MBytes
Module 2 RDRAM PC714 - 256 MBytes
Module 3 RDRAM PC714 - 256 MBytes

**Praetor** · 01-30-2005, 02:13 PM

Quote:

unless I read that wrong hes got 768

Dude you know i cant read

Quote:

...how does CPU-Z read the dummy RD sticks?

Definitely update the CPUz just to make sure that wasnt a bug or something

ThePCmaN · 01-30-2005, 03:34 PM

sorry, but i want to put my 2 cents in.. hehe!! i say u go for an AMD XP CPU.. ull have to get a new MoBo.. and just start off runnin 512MB (2x256), till u can double it... thats my thoughts!! sorry if it stinks..

01-29-2005, 08:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
opera936 Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: P4 Willamette 1.8Ghz with CoolerMaster HS up to 3.8Ghz Posts: 118	cpu or ram?? i'm considering upgrading my socket478 p4 1.8ghz to a higher speed cpu i had considered upgrading the same family pentium.....but it's too expensive but celeron is much cheaper i only had enought money to go for celeron D around 2.8ghz same L1 and 2 as the current one would it be faster/slower because its celeron , pc spec below Cpu wanted: http://tekgems.com/Products/et-1270...0d478-n.htm?frg my friend told me that i should upgrade ram instead of a newer/faster cpu. any recommendation? CPU-Z Report -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU-Z version 1.24. CPU(s) Number of CPUs 1 Name Intel Pentium 4 Code Name Willamette Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.80GHz Family / Model / Stepping F 1 2 Extended Family / Model 0 0 Brand ID 8 Package mPGA-478 Core Stepping D0 Technology 0.18 µ Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2 CPU Clock Speed 1794.5 MHz Clock multiplier x 18.0 Front Side Bus Frequency 99.7 MHz Bus Speed 398.8 MHz L1 Data Cache 8 KBytes, 4-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative L2 Cache 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size L2 Speed 1794.5 MHz (Full) L2 Location On Chip L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes L2 Bus Width 256 bits Mainboard and chipset Motherboard manufacturer Dell Computer Corporation Motherboard model Dimension 8200, BIOS vendor Dell Computer Corporation BIOS revision A03 BIOS release date 12/07/2001 Chipset Intel i850 rev. A3 Southbridge Intel 82801BA (ICH2) rev. 4 Graphic Interface AGP AGP Status enabled, rev. 2.0 AGP Data Transfert Rate 4x AGP Max Rate 4x AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled AGP Aperture Size 256 MBytes Memory DRAM Type RDRAM DRAM Size 512 MBytes DRAM Frequency 299.1 MHz FSBRAM 4:3 Total CAS# (tRDRAM) 10 clocks Row To Column (tRCD) 7 clocks # of memory modules 4 Module 0 Samsung RDRAM PC800 - 128 MBytes Module 1 Samsung RDRAM PC800 - 128 MBytes Module 2 RDRAM PC714 - 256 MBytes Module 3 RDRAM PC714 - 256 MBytes Software Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Workstation Service Pack 1 (Build 2600) DirectX version 9.0c

01-29-2005, 10:11 PM	#3 (permalink)
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01-30-2005, 02:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
opera936 Silver Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: P4 Willamette 1.8Ghz with CoolerMaster HS up to 3.8Ghz Posts: 118	thanks i think i will go for the ram around 80 bucks is available thanks for the recommedations though.

01-30-2005, 04:00 AM	#7 (permalink)
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01-30-2005, 03:34 PM	#10 (permalink)
ThePCmaN Silver Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Huntington, WV Age: 20 Posts: 179	sorry, but i want to put my 2 cents in.. hehe!! i say u go for an AMD XP CPU.. ull have to get a new MoBo.. and just start off runnin 512MB (2x256), till u can double it... thats my thoughts!! sorry if it stinks.. __________________ OCZ GameXStream 700Watt PSU Lite-On 20x DVD-Burner Seagate 320GB SATA HD MSI K9A2 Platinum AM2+ AMD 790FX AMD Athlon 64 x2 5000+ 2.6GHz BE EVGA nVidia 8800GTS 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 HT Omega Claro 7.1 PCI Sound Card Mushkin 4GB (1GBx4) DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Zalman 2Ball CPU Cooler Logitech THX Z-5300e 520Watts 5.1 Speakers/Plantronics GameCon1 Headset

01-29-2005, 09:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bobo banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Pittsburgh Age: 16 Posts: 6,623	If you want to upgrade the CPU, go with a P4. Celerons are crap, total wasted money. Save your money and get a P4 How much RAM do you have? Chances are that he is right

01-30-2005, 03:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
robina_80 Diamond Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: LONDON Age: 24 Posts: 1,971	just get more ram but if your into gaming get the best cpu your money can buy and get a decent mobo

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